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IIRC they had a... French? Nintendo guy do Luigi's voice in his first appearance in Mario Kart 64, with Martinet taking over for the U.S. version. And Mario Party used this voice in all versions. That makes me think they didn't have Martinet voice clips for Luigi.
Wonder if it's Martinet?
IIRC they had a... French? Nintendo guy do Luigi's voice in his first appearance in Mario Kart 64, with Martinet taking over for the U.S. version. And Mario Party used this voice in all versions. That makes me think they didn't have Martinet voice clips for Luigi.
This is true but keeping it private also gives them the power to get rid of it soo.We're only seeing this stuff because Nintendo preserved it.
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This doesn't make sense at all. How do you think this was obtained then?
Because they preserved for themselves. However preservation is more than just keeping it locked away from public eye. A lot of old art for example was obtained with nefarious means, but that doesn't mean we should take down all of Da Vinci's paintings at a museum. They're still a part of that history, as is this stuff is to Nintendo.
Damn, that is an incredible stretch to try and justify the theft this entire thread is based on.
Nintendo absolutely has interest in preservation, thus these leaks. Nintendo very often keeps and eventually uses ideas previously brainstormed but cut from older projects.
Woah, so Charles was already using his Luigi voice back then? Crazy!
Years since it is only precompiled filesand Nintendo would easily catch anyone using their code
So that's weird they didn't use it for the international versions of Kart and Party.
People on this board need to stop pretending they actually give a shit about preservation. You want to play older games again. You want looks at behind the scenes assets. Stop conflating this with preservation. This shit is embarrassing, because you don't actually care that Nintendo preserves their games so stop bringing it up
That's dumb, even if they only have it for themselves is still preserved, people who love to say "preservation" only really want to have it available
So according to you preservation = keeping it but locking it away secret? Am I reading that right? Cause I certainly don't see it this way. I think being able to analyze and appreciate the preservation is the important part of it personally but that's just me.
Much of the world's preservation efforts are locked away under lock and key with no access to the public but may be given access to scholars, etc.
Would it be overkill to request separate threads for discussion of the leaks and discussion of the ethics of the leaks?
Yes, actually - something being preserved doesn't mean it has to be publicly available. What you are asking for isn't just preservation, it's public preservation.
I agree that Nintendo has little interest in public preservation of their private assets.
Nintendo reused a lot of audio from N64 games for their SNES-to-GBA ports when wanting to add voices. LttP got OoT Link yelps, Yoshi's Island got Yoshi Story yelps, so this wouldn't surprise me that they used old recordings for SMB2.
It's not locked away. The archives are clearly open to those who work at Nintendo, hence we've seen ideas from these leaks reused in titles as recent as Mario Maker. Lots of archive have restricted access and are not open to the public. To say none of this is preservation flies in the face of all logic ever conceived by man.
It's also really cool looking at connections in other ways. Like I'm not sure exactly which direction this goes -- as in, which came first, which inspired what, etc -- but you can sorta see a through line between Super Donkey's main character being both a modified Mario design and similar to that side-scrolling Link sprite. And the side-scrolling Link has design elements that seem familiar with the pajama boy in Yoshi's Island that later became Baby Mario. It's really fascinating seeing all of this.
That isn't really cool either imo.
Why shouldn't it be available to the public?
Man this is super cool. All this stuff is gaming history. I wonder if a similar leak will happen at SEGA, I would love to see the Sonic betas.
Nintendo is preserving stuff, it just isn't free and publicly available. I'm pretty sure Nintendo has the alpha code of many of the canceled games that never got finished.
I feel like we've gotten a LOT more prototype and beta information about Sonic over the years than any of the big Nintendo series. Hell that what's kept me visiting some of the bigger Sonic sites in spite of not being a huge fan of the 3D games or any of the peripheral content.
that is what is most fascinating about these leaks to me, we rarely see stuff from nintendo this intact. usually it's just leftovers from rom data or old magazine scans.
Like I said I know it's preservation but to me preservation is only important when the public is able to have it's hands in it. Yes it's about me and many others wanting to see cool shit; that's the point. Otherwise preservation of art has no meaning to me.
I'm going to drop this discussion cause I know people are going to assume I'm trolling here, but this is how I honestly feel about this situation.
As a massive Ocarina of Time fan that spent my younger years learning everything I could about that game, including using gamesharks to access jumbled up states of the game, I came to this thread because I saw OoT mentioned. Is there anywhere I can get a rundown of what was discovered for OoT speficially? Or a place to keep up with what's happening for OoT? I don't really follow these kinds of leaks usually.
Unfortunately the OOT data is pretty fragmented and for the time being there doesn't seem like there's anything to gleam from it.
