I will say it's definitely fair thinking there could still be more regular-world play when you first arrive in Scala ad Caelum, but as soon as I went from the armored dudes to furry Xehanort I realized it was definitely final boss time.
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[UNMARKED SPOILERS] Kingdom Hearts III & ReMind DLC- Spoiler Thread
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Bugs me that Sora never got any badass cutscene moments in his own last game of the trilogy.
KH1: "You'll never take Kairi's heart!"
KH2: *Sora cutting through buildings*
KH3: *Sora stands around watching everyone else do cool shit*
Like when the party wiped/died while he just stood there and watched, got brought back to life, and then STOOD THERE AND WATCHED AGAIN.
Though I guess Dark/Heartless Sora fucking up Xehanort kind of counts?
KH1: "You'll never take Kairi's heart!"
KH2: *Sora cutting through buildings*
KH3: *Sora stands around watching everyone else do cool shit*
Like when the party wiped/died while he just stood there and watched, got brought back to life, and then STOOD THERE AND WATCHED AGAIN.
Though I guess Dark/Heartless Sora fucking up Xehanort kind of counts?
You're right, Riku is in the same place. I'm not sure where people are getting Insomnia. It looks literally nothing like it. The entire version of the city seems to be from TWEWY. Riku is just in a different part of town I imagine.
He literally surfed on top of a flurry of thousands on keyblades to save everyone
Shibuya is a ward in tokyo. The Insomnia building is based on a real life building, also in Tokyo
people say Insomnia because of the hints of Somnus in the music later in the movie.
Its assumed from that we would get more than just TWEWY characters there. That or they are using it since Yozora is gonna probably be a mirror of Noctis in KH
The way the scene is rendered and directed, it seems like they're going for a Dream Drop Distance "two sides of the same world" concept. Sora is in wacky cartoon Japan, Riku is in dark modern fantasy Japan.
The music, camera angle and the building Yozora is sitting on are designed to evoke Insomnia very, very deliberately.
yeah they are definitely in the same world, but just a bit apart.
Yeah that didn't land super well for me because I didn't understand where they came from. Plus, again, it's something happening *to* Sora, i.e. the keyblade guy from the past? sending him all these keyblades.
But then the MoM Moon Heart scene happens that shows both the Sora Shibuya Scramble and the Shinjiku Emo Duo Power Hour locales in the same world.
There's a lot of red/blue imagery (the color schemes of the settings, Yozora's eyes), and that plus the Shibuya setting was enough to tell me they're clearly calling back to 3D. It feels like a reference to 3D glasses, and the gimmick of "two perspectives on the same world" was clearly built around the fact that the game was on a 3D platform where each of your eyes sees something different to form a bigger picture.
The two LOCATIONS are in the same world. That doesn't mean both characters are in the same version of that world though. The lighting makes it fairly clear to me that they're shooting for Sora and Riku being in the same place but unable to see or interact with each other.
It's even possible that the KH Shibuya and Insomnia are part of the same world.
The secret ending should be a conceptualized sneak peak at what KH4 might be aiming for, I would be surprised if it's a hint at a dlc world.
I expect no worlds for any dlc, just extra combat content and maybe a keyblade or two. At most they'll expand twilight town.
I'm guessing Nomura will be starting to negotiate with Disney about what properties they'll be able to use in the next installment quite soon. He might even start working on KH4 before FF7R releases.
I expect no worlds for any dlc, just extra combat content and maybe a keyblade or two. At most they'll expand twilight town.
I'm guessing Nomura will be starting to negotiate with Disney about what properties they'll be able to use in the next installment quite soon. He might even start working on KH4 before FF7R releases.
Kingdom Hearts III.5: The World Ends With You II: The World's End That Never Was ~Return From Sleep~
From the Mobile Game, basically Ephemer's spirit gave the Keyblades of all of his Keyblade Union (Mobile Players) for Sora to command
People also have to remember this:
-The Verum Rex commercial video shown in the opening of Toy Story world takes place in Shibuya, not Shinjuk where Riku and Yozora is in the secret ending
-The place where Sora wakes up IS where Verum Rex commercial took place
this is opening of Verum Rex CM
This is the first thing Sora sees when he wakes up in the Secret movie. Notice that building is the same building in Verum Rex opening.
-The Verum Rex commercial video shown in the opening of Toy Story world takes place in Shibuya, not Shinjuk where Riku and Yozora is in the secret ending
-The place where Sora wakes up IS where Verum Rex commercial took place
this is opening of Verum Rex CM
This is the first thing Sora sees when he wakes up in the Secret movie. Notice that building is the same building in Verum Rex opening.
Yozora has the same color eyes as Noctis does (his eyes go red when he accesses a summon's power, uses the ring or the Armiger) and his hair actually very briefly flashes the same shade of black as Noct's for a moment before the camera cuts away.
Hell, the music is a tweaked Somnus. They're basically referencing 3 games at once, it's actually impressive.
I finished the game and saw the secret movie last night. Was I wrong to assume that because Kairi is already crying in the epilogue that Sora wasn't there and she was imagining that he was? That when everyone looks over to Kairi and Sora sitting on the tree that they're more so looking at Kairi who's longing to see Sora again? I'm sure that everything is just assumptions for now, but that was my immediate thought. Sora was never there and he wakes up in TWEWY in the secret movie because that's where he ended up after saving Kairi. I figured Riku was there because he went after Sora. Unless you guys have better proof to shut down what I'd thought it all played out as.
Also, why the fuck is Yozora so important as to show up in TWEWY? Or in the secret movie, let alone why it's named after him. I figured it was some weird FFvXIII nod in Toy Box and wouldn't go anywhere else? Please feel free to correct me on literally all of this lol.
Also, why the fuck is Yozora so important as to show up in TWEWY? Or in the secret movie, let alone why it's named after him. I figured it was some weird FFvXIII nod in Toy Box and wouldn't go anywhere else? Please feel free to correct me on literally all of this lol.
Beat it at 3AM last night. Despite the piss-easy difficulty, I loved it all (except Frozen)! The secret ending with Sora potentially having to play the Reaper's game is mind-blowing but idk why Riku just pops up in Verum Rex, I'm assuming he's just looking for Sora? The Xigbar twist is wild and I didn't see it coming and in hindsight, it's funny seeing what an obvious hint they give you in the post-Olympus cutscene where Xigbar/Luxu gets cut off in the middle of saying "May your heart be your guiding key".
It's sad seeing Sora not make it back to Kairi and Destiny Islands, especially when they finally got more "romantic", but I'm hoping we'll get some real character development out of this "death" arc, it's high time Sora stopped getting emotionally paralyzed every time some heavy shit goes down. despite the clunky narrative, I really liked that the foreshadowing of Sora having to face consequences for his actions (his need to save everybody) was not just some BS spewed by the villains but something that actually plays out. on the other hand, I disliked seeing Kairi relegated back to a damsel-in-distress role almost right after she saves Sora and spends the whole game training (tbf Lea gets owned almost immediately too).
special shout-out to the Union X cameo, holy shit that was an amazing piece of fan service and the uplifting version of Dearly Beloved hit me in the feels so hard. yeah it's deus ex machina but i gotta let it slide as per rule of cool.
anyway, pulling a xehanort and bringing 10 year old me into a new worldline so he can have his first orgasm playing this
It's sad seeing Sora not make it back to Kairi and Destiny Islands, especially when they finally got more "romantic", but I'm hoping we'll get some real character development out of this "death" arc, it's high time Sora stopped getting emotionally paralyzed every time some heavy shit goes down. despite the clunky narrative, I really liked that the foreshadowing of Sora having to face consequences for his actions (his need to save everybody) was not just some BS spewed by the villains but something that actually plays out. on the other hand, I disliked seeing Kairi relegated back to a damsel-in-distress role almost right after she saves Sora and spends the whole game training (tbf Lea gets owned almost immediately too).
special shout-out to the Union X cameo, holy shit that was an amazing piece of fan service and the uplifting version of Dearly Beloved hit me in the feels so hard. yeah it's deus ex machina but i gotta let it slide as per rule of cool.
anyway, pulling a xehanort and bringing 10 year old me into a new worldline so he can have his first orgasm playing this
That's what a good editor would do to organize Nomura's crazyness.
Yeah, I caught all the Noctis references, too, of course. I'm not saying they're just referencing DDD.
But they're laying on the 3D thing pretty thick, too (see the image Xenosaga posted above and how the red/blue lighting splits the image basically down the middle). I think it's just as pervasive as the FFXV references.
Sora needs his game partner.
Yen Sid is a really bad teacher. "Find the power of waking, Sora." "How do I do that?" "I dunno."
I'm not surprised Kairi and Lea ended up being useless with that guy as their boss.
I wonder if they're gonna end up going for another hollow-bastion type ensemble world then, with TWEWY characters living alongside the not-versus characters.People also have to remember this:
-The Verum Rex commercial video shown in the opening of Toy Story world takes place in Shibuya, not Shinjuk where Riku and Yozora is in the secret ending
-The place where Sora wakes up IS where Verum Rex commercial took place
this is opening of Verum Rex CM
This is the first thing Sora sees when he wakes up in the Secret movie. Notice that building is the same building in Verum Rex opening.
It's always been odd that TWEWY characters were literally straight out of their game whilst the FF characters were homages.
Can someone with a PS4 Pro or XBOX One X go to Toybox and screenshot the back of the Verum Rex box art? There's...clues on there, but the resolution on my base PS4 makes them hard to make out.
This so much. The fight was cool but after it I was like "ok so now he's gonna transform or something right? This the FINAL BOSS." Then the orchestral version of Simple and Clean starts playing and I'm like "oh." It wasn't too satisfying. It felt like we were just cleaning up someone's mess. It was so impersonal.
found it hilarious that he has all these guardians of light but he still has to swoop in and clear heartless out of the way for them like Sora didn't just summon a roller coaster 30 minutes ago.
After playing through the more recent games like 358/2 and Birth by Sleep, the final fight against Master Xehanort didn't feel underwhelming. Honestly, the fight against Xemnas in KH2 was FAR TOO DAMN MUCh and I think the KH team realized that they could deliver a good boss fight without needing the boss to have seven different stages including a penultimate Super Battleship Mechanort.
By the way, the Shinjuku building design in the secret trailer seems almost identical to the actual building design in real life, while the FFXV Insomnia one had a slight redesign for it's aesthetics.
actual building in real life
KH3 secret ending
FFXV Insomnia
KH3 secret ending
FFXV Insomnia
Mickey had been fighting Heartless, Nobodies, and Unversed off and on for a decade. Kairi and Axel went through Keyblade Basics 101 and that was about it.
What did Insomnia look like in the original Versus XIII concept?By the way, the Shinjuku building design in the secret trailer seems almost identical to the actual building design in real life, while the FFXV Insomnia one had a slight redesign for it's aesthetics.
actual building in real life
KH3 secret ending
FFXV Insomnia
wow. this is... a sentence.
:-) improved
You just know their "training" consisted of hitting Merlin's magical furniture for three months.
Ah, I see. Thank you!It was similar (if not same) as the final one we got in XV
dude his entry to the Realm of Darkness in this game is a top tier moment for Sora.
I was a little disappointed in the secret boss tbh. To be fair I had the Ultima keyblade which helped a lot but I still beat it in like 5 or 6 tries on proud. To this day I have still yet to beat Lingering Will on 2FM lol
It's funny because I thought that Ansem and Xemnas turning into an airship was stupid as hell at the time but now I missed it lol. But the more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that what was really missing was a proper final world. The last two hours of the game is just one long boss gauntlet. It didn't feel like there was a proper build up to Xehanort. It was just "ok killed these guys, next please." If Scala ad Caelum was a proper dungeon then I would've felt much better about it. There's also Kingdom Hearts. The real thing is right there out in the open. I thought some crazy shit would happen but it's basically just scenery. Lastly, though not as important, I've already fought a guy with the X-Blade so Xehanort wielding it didn't feel like a big deal.
Doesn't help that the best verbal smackdown of Xehanort in the game came from Woody. He set the bar so high, everyone else had to die just to brush their fingers against it.
Without that, I almost beat him first try in level 50s unprepared, 2nd try in like 2 mins
I don't think there's anything I would want less than this. "Sit around in a forest and train" isn't really something worth paying for.
Just got done with the game.
Xigbar twist and the black box are very interesting.
Final boss was whatever. I hope they add in critical mode as Proud was too easy. Only really used block on the final boss.
Really looking forward to KH4 after this game. Sora being lost and Riku possibly trying to go save him will be interesting to see play out with the new story line they have set up.
Xigbar twist and the black box are very interesting.
Final boss was whatever. I hope they add in critical mode as Proud was too easy. Only really used block on the final boss.
Really looking forward to KH4 after this game. Sora being lost and Riku possibly trying to go save him will be interesting to see play out with the new story line they have set up.
It's crazy that we go through the Final World, Keyblade Graveyard, and Scala ad Caelum and even adding all of them together it doesn't feel like a final dungeon.
What if they handled it like 0.2?
I'd prefer Episode Riku tbh. Give him a chance to prove what he can do without jobbing to enemies for Sora to come in and save the day, and let him interact with different characters. He didn't have a single conversation with Terra, who made such a big impact on his life, nor did he with Kairi which makes it hard to believe they're actually friends.
I kind of wonder if a final dungeon would have really been a good thing. Not that it couldn't have worked, but there's so much that happens so fast (Keyblade Graveyard, Final World, back to KGY, Scala ad Caelum) with so much story and so many character moments, that having a protracted final dungeon might have actually hurt the pace of the ending in some ways.