Same numbers and method for the exit poll as the last few elections and it got them right.
Good luck scotland
Now where's my London independence movement
no the fuck they aren't, fuck off with your decorum bullshit
Yeah, that's really what I fear. A lot of suffering ahead for minorities and the poor. Even further decimated public services. Tory cruelty reigning supreme.People just blaming Corbyn don't see the real picture. Corbyn wasn't anything amazing but he is better than Boris. The right wing press smeared him to hell as he was way too left leaning for their liking. Add that too how bigoted the UK is it all lead to one thing.
Bigotry and hatred won tonight. People like me will be treated even worse in this country.
Just tab into the /pol/ thread, post the screenshot of the replies you got, and never come back dude.
I'm a Conservative voter but I try and read a wide variety of sources for news to avoid this problem. I post and read here, on 4chan, The Telegraph, The Guardian, FT, The Times, and The Independent. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this site and that's fine by me, but engaging and reading a wide range of opinions, often times going out of my "comfort zone" has certainly helped my world view and opened my eyes to issues I may have glossed over before.
Same numbers and method for the exit poll as the last few elections and it got them right.
The thing is McDonnell saw this coming. He wanted Corbyn to go last year/early this year but he, Lansman and McCluskey couldn't agree on a successor and thought it too dangerous if they had 3 candidates from the left splitting the vote.
20,000 people is a lot for a poll
Eh he is not wrong. Corbyn is so unpopular he should've left after he couldn't beat the worst pm ever in 2017
Come the fuck off it.
Labour were at the end of three majorities in a row only a decade ago. This is the worst Labour result since 1935. This is just defeatism that fails to look at the true cause because of a desire not to see it.
False hope I'm afraid.
I'm a Conservative voter but I try and read a wide variety of sources for news to avoid this problem. I post and read here, on 4chan, The Telegraph, The Guardian, FT, The Times, and The Independent. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this site and that's fine by me, but engaging and reading a wide range of opinions, often times going out of my "comfort zone" has certainly helped my world view and opened my eyes to issues I may have glossed over before.
Stomach legit turning when I think of the coming fucking decade.
How exactly we supposed to celebrate the turning of it.....?
Yep, the country is full of cunts. This country is mean, destructive and heartless.People just blaming Corbyn don't see the real picture. Corbyn wasn't anything amazing but he is better than Boris. The right wing press smeared him to hell as he was way too left leaning for their liking. Add that too how bigoted the UK is it all lead to one thing.
Bigotry and hatred won tonight. People like me will be treated even worse in this country.
Are you both sides ing this?
Nah, UK is just bigoted as fuck and loves bigotsLabour were at the end of three majorities in a row only a decade ago. This is the worst Labour result since 1935. This is just defeatism that fails to look at the true cause because of a desire not to see it.
I don't think saying "fuck off" to a Tory troll coming to gloat is comparable to keeping tories in power.I voted Labour (best of the bad bunch) but yikes, this thread.
Insulting others and telling people to "fuck off" is just as pathetic as the process itself. Get a grip.
The strategy was wrong. Obviously easy to say now, but they should have pushed for a second referendum to take brexit out of the debate before having an election.
People just blaming Corbyn don't see the real picture. Corbyn wasn't anything amazing but he is better than Boris. The right wing press smeared him to hell as he was way too left leaning for their liking. Add that too how bigoted the UK is it all lead to one thing.
Bigotry and hatred won tonight. People like me will be treated even worse in this country.
Are you saying that Tory voters aren't pieces of shit?
Generally curious as an outsider, would worsening conditions under a majority Conservative party lead to a more liberal backlash? Something similar to the Tick-Tock method?
When? Lol. Trump has a pretty good chance of getting reelected by just being the incumbent president.
Last election Corbyn offered ambiguity, this one he said he'd not take a position on the biggest issue of the day. Not much difference.the New Labour Remain Brexit position was forced onto Labour and crashed and burned in the leave heartlands.
the Corbyn position was tested in 2017 and gained seats, not lost them. it's clear the turning point when you look at the polls. Corbyn didn't help, but there's no question the move from soft Brexit to Remain was the point that things went wrong.
but y'all will never, ever admit that.
Not to depress you more, but if it is an 80+ majority, that pretty much guarantees Tory rule at least until 2029.
The left will break into fighting without a unifying figure. We'll probably have an empty suit like Cooper.I wonder if the various wings of the Labour Party will start working together now, they need each other, there isn't going to be a Kinnock figure this time, the right of the party is going to have to put in some work.
Was just reminded of this quote by Camus that I think is apt for such a horrible situation
We just cannot and must not give up or resign ourselves to hopelessness.
But for now, I'm just going to get drunk and think about that in the morning.