No, it isn't true. WWE 2K has never been in the UK top 20 best selling games of the year. For example, WWE 2K16 was 23th in 2015, WWE 2K17 was 26th in 2016 and WWE 2K18 was 22th in 2017 (I only find the top 20 for 2018, not the top 50/100, so I don't know where was WWE 2K18).
Being behind Call of Duty is completely normal. Being behind the 5th week of FIFA is... acceptable, I guess. Being behind WWE 2K20, which did less than the previous game of the serie, is disappointing.
Of course, it's only physical sales, so I really hope with digital the game will be 2nd. I also hope that Game Pass will mean that more people will play, enjoy and buy this game.
This is why I said in my first post:
Depends how its marketed also i guess. Think thats why you see MS also trying both ends of the spectrum to see how things perform etc.Can go either way with sub services. Gamepass has shown to hugely eat into sales, or increase it. Game by game. In imagine AAAs get rogered, indies benefit
since there wasn't anything special that could explain the second week performance otherwise
Oh that's a good point. Didn't know they had a holiday right now
Depends how its marketed also i guess. Think thats why you see MS also trying both ends of the spectrum to see how things perform etc.
It's hard to say if it did well because of Game Pass and the lack of digital sales. But no, it isn't a good launch, even for an AA game. It did less than WWE 2K20.
From Top 10? Wasn't it already out of top 10 last week?
It was 30th last week already. Could be out of top 40, but we won't know until UKIE release their report.
Without a doubt.With each piece of new data for GamePass. It becomes abundantly clear MS's long-term vision can only replicate the Netflix model if it's on every available platform.
It may take two, three, four years. But the roadmap has to be to bring GamePass (even if just MS Studio exclusives) to platforms like PlayStation, Nintendo, Stadia.
What about for Take Two / Private Division? SInce it's not a MS game.I hope word of mouth is keeping ToW in the charts, game seems like a big success for Obsidian and MS. Good get.
How do you come to that conclusion? But I don't think they expect to be their service on a PlayStation or a Switch and bet on it being successful without these platforms.With each piece of new data for GamePass. It becomes abundantly clear MS's long-term vision can only replicate the Netflix model if it's on every available platform.
It may take two, three, four years. But the roadmap has to be to bring GamePass (even if just MS Studio exclusives) to platforms like PlayStation, Nintendo, Stadia.
For them, too.What about for Take Two / Private Division? SInce it's not a MS game.
Don't worry, Microsoft is already trying to put their store and game pass on every piece of capable hardware via xCloudWith each piece of new data for GamePass. It becomes abundantly clear MS's long-term vision can only replicate the Netflix model if it's on every available platform.
It may take two, three, four years. But the roadmap has to be to bring GamePass (even if just MS Studio exclusives) to platforms like PlayStation, Nintendo, Stadia.
It will be on any platform via xCloud, we already know this. If Sony/Nintendo refuses to have it on their platforms, that's up to them. But as far as Microsoft will be concerned, they'll have xCloud anywhere. It'll be on any platform that allows it including your smart TV, phones, tablets, laptop, whatever. Same goes for Stadia for that matter.With each piece of new data for GamePass. It becomes abundantly clear MS's long-term vision can only replicate the Netflix model if it's on every available platform.
It may take two, three, four years. But the roadmap has to be to bring GamePass (even if just MS Studio exclusives) to platforms like PlayStation, Nintendo, Stadia.
The hit on physical & digital full price sales is now in full effect. But that can only be offset by massively increasing your subscription base. That will only happen if you're platform agnostic. Even a £150/$200 streaming machine is still too big a barrier.How do you come to that conclusion? But I don't think they expect to be their service on a PlayStation or a Switch and bet on it being successful without these platforms.
I agree, but the game has been published by Private Divisions. I hope they will also be happy with sales of this game.Regardless of sales, there will likely be many people playing and enjoying the game on PC/Xbox via Game Pass. Given their current strategy, it'll be those metrics that Microsoft will be interested in when considering a sequel, or another game in the same genre, rather than sales.
I don't know. Sea of Thieves, Forza Horizon 4 and State of Decay 2 benefited from Xbox Game Pass to increase their sales. Maybe it only affect negatively single player games.Can go either way with sub services. Gamepass has shown to hugely eat into sales, or increase it. Game by game. In imagine AAAs get rogered, indies benefit
When you do less than a game which did less than the previous game which didn't sell well, you can't say it's a good launch. Maybe digital will change that (I hope it will), but physical sales are bad if you only look at them. We have explanations for those bad sales (Xbox Game Pass, for example), but it doesn't mean they aren't bad.
I don't think they will bring GamePass to Stadia, because they will have XCloud, which is basically the same thing. But yeah, I think they will try to bring Xbox Game Pass to Nintendo Switch (and even to PlayStation 5 if it's possible).With each piece of new data for GamePass. It becomes abundantly clear MS's long-term vision can only replicate the Netflix model if it's on every available platform.
It may take two, three, four years. But the roadmap has to be to bring GamePass (even if just MS Studio exclusives) to platforms like PlayStation, Nintendo, Stadia.
I wouldn't infer anything right now from the only physical UK chart. I am not saying you are wrong but we don't have the data right now to make any claims.The hit on physical & digital full price sales is now in full effect. But that can only be offset by massively increasing your subscription base. That will only happen if you're platform agnostic. Even a £150/$200 streaming machine is still too big a barrier.
I wouldn't expect the full 1st & 3rd part GamePass library to come across. But I do think a similar service with their exclusive offerings is inevitable.
I agree, but the game has been published by Private Divisions. I hope they will also be happy with sales of this game.
I don't know. Sea of Thieves, Forza Horizon 4 and State of Decay 2 benefited from Xbox Game Pass to increase their sales. Maybe it only affect negatively single player games.
When you do less than a game which did less than the previous game which didn't sell well, you can't say it's a good launch. Maybe digital will change that (I hope it will), but physical sales are bad if you only look at them. We have explanations for those bad sales (Xbox Game Pass, for example), but it doesn't mean they aren't bad.
I don't think they will bring GamePass to Stadia, because they will have XCloud, which is basically the same thing. But yeah, I think they will try to bring Xbox Game Pass to Nintendo Switch (and even to PlayStation 5 if it's possible).
With each piece of new data for GamePass. It becomes abundantly clear MS's long-term vision can only replicate the Netflix model if it's on every available platform.
It may take two, three, four years. But the roadmap has to be to bring GamePass (even if just MS Studio exclusives) to platforms like PlayStation, Nintendo, Stadia.
No reason not to believe Private Division arnt profiting from GP downloads, its just that it's not visible to us in a conventional way (charts).
I agree, but the game has been published by Private Divisions. I hope they will also be happy with sales of this game.
I don't know about never. In 5-10 years, the entire landscape will probably be different from where we are now. I think it is more a matter of time than anything else.I wouldn't infer anything right now from the only physical UK chart. I am not saying you are wrong but we don't have the data right now to make any claims.
Sony will never allow it because it's in direct competition with PSNow and MS knows that. They will still continue with their gamepass plan.
They allowed EA to sell EA Access on PlayStation 4. I don't think it's impossible, even if it will be harder for Microsoft.I wouldn't infer anything right now from the only physical UK chart. I am not saying you are wrong but we don't have the data right now to make any claims.
Sony will never allow it because it's in direct competition with PSNow and MS knows that. They will still continue with their gamepass plan.
It was 30th last week already. Could be out of top 40, but we won't know until UKIE release their report.
WW2 really was a huge COD release. I wonder if will we get a sequel to that after Blops 5 next year?
it isn't.
Only if they drop PSNow. I really feel that Sony will rather try to make PSNow their "gamepass" before they let MS in on their ecosystem.They allowed EA to sell EA Access on PlayStation 4. I don't think it's impossible, even if it will be harder for Microsoft.
it's not out yet, should be published here later today
Thank you.it's not out yet, should be published here later today