Ubisoft Connect: Not all Ubisoft PS4 games will work on PS5 (update 3: Ubisoft pulled the article stating this information contains inaccuraties)

NewDust · Oct 30, 2020

Could be Ubisoft stepping in and saying if these games have issues with BC on PS5 we don't want be (listed as) available on the platform? Even still I'd rather make that decision myself.

So either Sony cocked up their 10 not playable list, or Ubisoft is making decisions for me.

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

Looks like the decision might still be mine.

shaneo632 · Oct 30, 2020

Werewolves Within is dead anyway, sadly, so no loss there I guess.

MrPink · Oct 30, 2020

bbq of doom said:
Someone did that and confirmed the list of 10--it's the tweet that's been floating around.

So I wonder what's the list of 'bootable'?

Kuro · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

this should be in the OP. Seems Sony will still be rolling out fixes over the next few months.

bing · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

Can you check Sleeping Dogs? Threadmark this OP or put it in your post.

bbq of doom · Oct 30, 2020

Gestault said:
A statement from Ubisoft today about their own games shouldn't be brushed aside.

And a crystal clear list of 10 shouldn't either.

Calvin · Oct 30, 2020

Uh...that is really weird - Syndicate is not a small game in the pantheon of Assassin's Creed, and Bridge Crew is a fairly impressive VR showcase. Pretty surprised by this.

Also cross-progression between generations as a marketing bullet needs to GTFO. Give us proper cross-progression between consoles and PCs or zip it.

HardRojo · Oct 30, 2020

If they don't work for some reason, it seems like this is on Ubisoft, would be weird that several of their games are not available through BC for some reason.

bbq of doom · Oct 30, 2020

MrPink said:
So I wonder what's the list of 'bootable'?

Games that work, but with errors?

Deleted member 20297 · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

Interesting!

Deleted member 10737 · Oct 30, 2020

if it's up to third parties to decide what game is or isn't BC, sony shouldn't have put a list of just 10 games and said everything else works. that's misleading.

reclaimerzzzzz · Oct 30, 2020

So is this a case of Ubisoft have higher standards than Sony regarding what works and doesn't?

MrPink · Oct 30, 2020

bbq of doom said:
Games that work, but with errors?

I mean what are the games that fall under that category and how many to be more specific.

mancan · Oct 30, 2020

It's all about definitions. Errors and bugs? Do any of you want to play a game that crashes every hour for example? Maybe the Sony testers put on Syndicate for 5 minutes saw it run and ticked it off. They wouldn't do the same level of testing Ubisoft would.

Grimmy11 · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

This is interesting, I wonder what the qualifiers are to qualify as Not Compatible, Bootable and Compatible

MiDoZ · Oct 30, 2020

Eeyore said:
These types of posts just show that some are unwilling to look at an issue before making some brazen announcement. Sony said ten games don't work. These games aren't on the list. The most likely confusion is on Ubisoft's end unless you think Sony outright lied. Which would be real stupid of them considering.

I know the full story. And I also know that no matter what xbox one game I tried on my XSX. The worst possible senario will be the game will perform as it was on my Xbox one x.
Can I say the same for PS5? Or do I have to search internet forums. Investigate. Read some random tweet. And be baffled by third parties saying actually our games might not work.
Clearly you see the deference of how both companies are handling this.

JigglesBunny · Oct 30, 2020

bbq of doom said:
Ubisoft has never had crystal clear messaging but suddenly--with this--it's believable?

And Sony, as the manufacturer of the console, likely knows way more about that.

Dude, Ubisoft is telling you themselves that these aren't going to work. Get past the denial phase.

bbq of doom · Oct 30, 2020

MrPink said:
I mean what are the games that fall under that category and how many to be more specific.

Start searching lol.

xenonium · Oct 30, 2020

Sounds like Sony is saying everything except the 10 can work, but may have issues and Ubisoft is saying they won't allow the issues (since it reflects on them and not Sony).

Ales34 · Oct 30, 2020

NewDust said:
Could be Ubisoft stepping in and saying if these games have issues with BC on PS5 we don't want be (listed as) available on the platform? Even still I'd rather make that decision myself.

So either Sony cocked up their 10 not playable list, or Ubisoft is making decisions for me.

If the game runs with catastrophic errors on PS5, I'd understand the publisher's unwillingness to have it listed as compatible with PS5 when it isn't: they'd just get bad reviews for something that isn't their fault.

bbq of doom · Oct 30, 2020

JigglesBunny said:
Dude, Ubisoft is telling you themselves that these aren't going to work. Get past the denial phase.

Sony is selling Syndicate saying it works, but with errors. Is Sony in denial?

Yautja_Warrior · Oct 30, 2020

Hope they or Sony can fix Star Trek Bridge Crew, that game is fun as hell in VR.

oRuin · Oct 30, 2020

Well let's get to work and patch em up!

andshrew · Oct 30, 2020

The Last One said:
Could you check Kingdom Hearts games for me pls?

All showing as compatible.

Bluemaster77 · Oct 30, 2020

NoKisum said:
Is it possible that Ubisoft is purposely putting something in their games to make them unplayable on PS5?

Please tell me you're kidding...

Uzuzu · Oct 30, 2020

looks like sony considers it working if it can be launched but with errors (who knows how game-breaking the errors are, but if ubisoft says its not compatible they must be bad), and the 10 games they listed were the ones not able to be launched at all

The Last One · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
All showing as compatible.

Thanks for the info!

AyaisMUsikWhore · Oct 30, 2020

Need some confirmation on syndicate because that is highly disappointing

Helix · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

i would like try this out too. can you link us to your post in PT compatibility thread like you mentioned? thanks!

Eeyore · Oct 30, 2020

MiDoZ said:
I know the full story. And I also know that no matter what xbox one game I tried on my XSX. The worst possible senario will be the game will perform as it was on my Xbox one x.
Can I say the same for PS5? Or do I have to search internet forums. Investigate. Read some random tweet. And be baffled by third parties saying actually our games might not work.
Clearly you see the deference of how both companies are handling this.

I do see the deference you give Xbox, yes.

ItIsOkBro · Oct 30, 2020

I feel like Ubisoft should be the source of truth here.

Lukar · Oct 30, 2020

tabris said:
Those are all the PS Vita port games right?

Tomb Raider GO and I think Hitman GO also don't work.

Wonder if some technique to port Vita to PS4 games is causing BC issues?

The Chronicles games were ported to Vita, not the other way around.

Gestault · Oct 30, 2020

It's a good sign that specific titles have been identified, because that increases the chances for a later patch to address the compatibility. Only a few of these would even show up on my radar, but there's a couple of bigger ones mixed in.

bbq of doom said:
And a crystal clear list of 10 shouldn't either.

If you're insisting the thread is a lie, then either report it, or don't hang around to badger the people talking about the news.

criteriondog · Oct 30, 2020

Maybe they run, just not the way Ubisoft wanted them too, so they are prohibiting them? Wouldn't be surprised if Ubisoft patches them in the future.

mancan · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

This is exactly it. Just because you can boot up a game doesn't make it actually playable

Tribal24 · Oct 30, 2020

oRuin said:
Well let's get to work and patch em up!

Yup, exactly how I expected backwards compatibility to work. Nothing is really new here, alot of Con-cerny as usual

bbq of doom · Oct 30, 2020

Uzuzu said:
looks like sony considers it working if it can be launched but with errors (who knows how game-breaking the errors are, but if ubisoft says its not compatible they must be bad), and the 10 games they listed were the ones not able to be launched at all

I think that's Occam's razor.

Deleted member 20297 · Oct 30, 2020

mazi said:
if it's up to third parties to decide what game is or isn't BC, sony shouldn't have put a list of just 10 games and said everything else works. that's misleading.

I don't think they decide at all but they want to tell their customers. It's on Sony to provide hardware that makes current gen games bc with PS5.

JigglesBunny · Oct 30, 2020

bbq of doom said:
Sony is selling Syndicate saying it works, but with errors. Is Sony in denial?

Sony can be wrong, you know.

MrKlaw · Oct 30, 2020

ItIsOkBro said:
I feel like Ubisoft should be the source of truth here.

perhaps the first time in a while that's been said

WishIwasAwolf · Oct 30, 2020

If Ubisoft is incorrect on this, then I am 100% sure they are in the process of being bought.

They are already incorrect anyway regarding Xbox One:

* on Xbox Series X|S, all our Xbox One games will be backward compatible.

They forget to mention that at least:
- Shape up
- Fighter Within
- Just Dance

As well as some others will not be backwards compatible.

xem · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

ya i was about to say this. thx

Palette Swap · Oct 30, 2020

If this means what we understand it to mean, Sony's earlier statement would be beyond misleading.

Rowsdower · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

Can you say how to do this? I would love to search some titles.

PopcornMegaphone · Oct 30, 2020

What does Sony mean when they say a BC game works "with errors"? I think that's the real question here.

bbq of doom · Oct 30, 2020

Gestault said:
It's a good sign that specific titles have been identified, because that increases the chances for a later patch to address the compatibility. Only a few of these would even show up on my radar, but there's a couple of bigger ones mixed in.

If you're insisting the thread is a lie, then either report it, or don't hang around to badger the people talking about the news.

If you don't want to see me you can simply ignore me. This type of condescension is unnecessary.

rochellepaws · Oct 30, 2020

Azaan60 said:
I just checked the PS Store. Syndicate isn't the only game that shows that Error message.

Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition says the same thing

Sleeping Dogs™ Definitive Edition

The Definitive Edition of the critically acclaimed, award winning open-world action adventure, reworked, rebuilt and re-mastered for PlayStation®4. All 24 previously available DLC extensions have been integrated into the game, including the story-extending episode Year of the Snake and the...

store.playstation.com

"When playing on PS5, this game may exhibit errors or unexpected behaviour and some features available on PS4 may be absent. To play this game on PS5, your system may need to be updated to the latest system software. See PlayStation.com/bc for more details."

Are their any other games?

Edit: So does Return To Arkham

Batman: Return to Arkham

Previous special offer price valid from 11-10-2023 to 25-10-2023 was £5.24 €7.49 AU 10.49 BGN 14.98 CZK 197.85 DKK 55.35 HUF 2548 NZ 13.49 NOK 82.35 PLN 31.35 SEK 79.35 USD 6.74 ZAR 134.85 HRK 56.85 INR 449 TRY 53.85 ILS 29.85brbr Return to Arkham and experience two of the most...

store.playstation.com

"When playing on PS5, this game may exhibit errors or unexpected behaviour and some features available on PS4 may be absent. To play this game on PS5, your system may need to be updated to the latest system software. See PlayStation.com/bc for more details."

Star Ocean: Till The End of Time has it as well

Star Ocean® Till The End Of Time™

The defining title in the Star Ocean series, that reveals the greatest secret in the Star Ocean universe, is finally available for PlayStation®4brThanks to the latest in HD emulator technology, the content of the original game remains untouched in this HD conversion available exclusively via...

store.playstation.com

Also Zero Escape The Nonary Games and The Surge

Precious Tritium · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

That definitely seems like the issue. I mean no one expects anyone to play through all of these games to confirm they work in their entirety but hopefully games listed as "Bootable" don't just boot to the title screen and then break lol.

CrazyNomad · Oct 30, 2020

andshrew said:
There is definitely something to these claims. As I mentioned in the PT compatibility thread, the new https://library.playstation.com web site has an API which can query the BC compatibility of PS4 games.

If you put in some of these games they return a state of bootable rather than compatible:

Star Trek Bridge Crew

Assassins Creed Syndicate

For comparison, Division 2 reports as compatible:

added to threadmark

bbq of doom · Oct 30, 2020

PopcornMegaphone said:
What does Sony mean when they say a BC game works "with errors"? I think that's the real question here.

That's a great question and I wish we had more information concerning it.

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