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Ubisoft apologizes for homophobic slur in The Division 2
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I have never had to, but it's not off the table, I am a white middle class man, so I know I won't be in any grave danger if I call them.
This thread was never about cops, the image of a cop, nor even the game. It was about a derogatory word being removed. Then they derail the thread and get defensive when people are rightfully confused by their sudden hot drop of a derailment.
The Division 2 feels like a story that was chopped up and edited back together because of this mission statement that the game was now apolitical. Because from what I remember of The Division 1, The Division was in fact, not a bastion of hope or good.
When someone blurts out a non-sequitur in to a crowd, people would rightfully wonder what the fuck is going on. Also didn't know shouting "fuck the police" was a requirement to own a progressive badge, the more you know I guess.
Going out of their way to be dickish? Or taking time to explain their standpoint? It's not like they said 'Fuck the police!', then bailed.
It's kind of crazy but i was super curious about the hex stuff pointing to a color and looking it up it does seem like its the exact orange that's used in the game. Im thinking its a crazy coincidence but now it seems super weird.
I know you weren't talking to me, but generally speaking even in a bad situation a lot of minorities would still prefer to deal with the situation on their own with whatever resources they have available than go to the police for anything. They don't really consider them a reliable solution to potential problems, just another way of creating more problems and making a bad situation worse.
It's about assessing the risk basically. "Maybe I will get lucky and this policeman will actually try to help me, but they might just think I'm the crook instead. Is it really worth it?"
That's not really what I was trying to say, but I probably should have worded my post differently.
Fair enough. For the record I would like to say I greatly appreciate the additional context you brought into this thread; I don't think I ever properly thanked you for that.
It's one Google search away!
You can also google it if you want.
At least you're not the one getting an alert every time it happens.
Sorry, excuse me, I meant "huh?" "???" "uhhhhh"
You're right. TD1 had a radio operator who brought up the nature of The Division as being pretty creepy and authoritarian: civilians trained as sleeper agents who'd be activated as supercops when the US is attacked by terrorists, trained specifically to act above the law and restore American government.
It's why a lot of the agents went rogue iirc, a lot of them didn't want to go back to "normal." Of course you only fight the evil greedy rogue agents ever in-game, but after the sparse events that happened in TD2 I expect the player will go narratively "rogue."
Sparse is the right word here. I can't imagine the preposterous premise of TD2 is anything more than just a container to justify feeding you missions where you go and murder hundreds of people for yellow squares. I feel the game is all the better for it from a design standpoint which makes the location set in TD2 and the effort to separate it from any meaningful political stance even more perplexing.
The whole game feels more political now haha
Edit (story spoilers I guess):
For clarification: By making President Action Hero a traitor with an actual authoritarian army (that all wear black and have oppressively designed robots) it's being extremely political.
I mean it's not like people disagree about this specific point, but it's just that this specific point is brought out in like, a really weird way, because it has nothing to do with what the topic actually is (very possibly a rogue artist being a jackass.)
I mean, Ubisoft even apologized and issued a patch specifically to remove it. To just come in here in thunderous voice saying "THEY'RE SAYING GAY = POLICE AND THAT SUCKS!' (with the added bonus for saying THE GAME SUCKS!) is just really really weird.
Report any post you think is breaking the rules instead of whining about the moderation.
Is it though? Lots of people in this thread seem to have never even seen someone be critical of the police before.
I see what you mean lol. This could be the most meta poltical commentary this gen if the point of TD2 being set in DC is to be the most empty fun you can have doing the worst things for the wrong reasons. And that reality being exactly what we have always wanted int he first place.
or that lol
Totally fine to be critical of something. Even my brother (a deputy) is very critical of the way police academies and training are handled. But "fuck cops" is just hateful BS.
Thats damn good.... Sensible chuckle was had.
I can just imagine someone driving around with that license plate (it wouldn't happen obviously). Bonus points would be cop driving it around as personal vehicle off duty.
Had no idea what that code even meant and I'm gay af so I'm not surprised someone could sneak that in I guess.
I don't know. I'm not sure if I'm becoming jaded, paranoid or 'ascended' here because I feel like I see these stories all the time and now I can't help but think to myself that they might be marketing stunts. Like they're playing on my desire for progressiveness by putting something trivial in the game that was never going to make it into the final thing, saying how there was very small flack over it and coming back like "Hey we fixed it because we support you" to win our hearts instead of doing something actually progressive.
Like, I think I might be going crazy here I actually don't know anymore.
I don't know. I'm not sure if I'm becoming jaded, paranoid or 'ascended' here because I feel like I see these stories all the time and now I can't help but think to myself that they might be marketing stunts. Like they're playing on my desire for progressiveness by putting something trivial in the game that was never going to make it into the final thing, saying how there was very small flack over it and coming back like "Hey we fixed it because we support you" to win our hearts instead of doing something actually progressive.
Like, I think I might be going crazy here I actually don't know anymore.
No doubt. It's like it's 1992 up in here. Absolutely incredible how people stereotype here.
I feel for the mods that has to sort out through this thread.
It's one of the messiest one I've read so far. It's like the usage of a homophobic slur on a cop image broke the logic of some users.
Most probably an outsourced art that was made by a dumb schmuck. Don't overthink it.
It's one of the messiest one I've read so far. It's like the usage of a homophobic slur on a cop image broke the logic of some users.
Most probably an outsourced art that was made by a dumb schmuck. Don't overthink it.
The only good cops are the one that try to change the shitty organization from within and not partake in bigoted and violent enforcement.
But then they wouldn't be performing their duties and would be placed on leave and removed, and thus, wouldn't be cops any more
So yeah
No good cops
But then they wouldn't be performing their duties and would be placed on leave and removed, and thus, wouldn't be cops any more
So yeah
No good cops
the division games are reactionary wet dreams like all the tom clancy stuff. they can be fun but putting women and poc in your fascist murder fest doesn't make it progressive.
That's a big assumption to make about people pointing out hilarious over the top statement like pigs being better than cops, and replying to other posters to tell the cops they know that cops can get fucked.
Critique is fine but this ain't it.
That is still people being critical, not implying all hot takes are made from the same cloth as the more thought out posts on here.
Didn't the first game have you straight up killing prisoners? This series has some fucked up politics, for a game that is allegedly apolitical.
b-b-b-but there can't be any good cops or they wouldn't be cops! /s
Wow. Really thought of most people on Era as peers, critically thinking, compassionate, well rounded individuals. Guess I forgot I was on the internet.
The amount of animosity here for people who every day run into harms way to save the lives of the very people directing hate towards them is astonishing.
There are bad cops, there are bad teachers, there are bad nurses, there are "bad " examples in every profession. However the VAST majority of law enforcement officers are great people, with families, who want to do good. And more than anything, just want to make the communities they serve safer places.
Name another profession you can work in, and in 7 years have 6 of your friends, family, coworkers not just die, but be violently murdered on the job.
Yes there are horrible things that happen with interactions with cops, but even just statistically, with how many law enforcement personel there are, and how many interactions with citizens they have per day, if you run the numbers, the amount of interactions that are even disputed or anything negative happens at all at the hands of law enforcement, it's infamtismal.
But on display here is a sickening level of disconnected individuals here. Hating on people that would (and do) give their lives for anyone of you in a second.
I'm not mad, just disappointed and sad. Maybe if some of you had experienced death more, or faced death, or actually life and death decisions that need to be made in milliseconds; you'd have a different tune.
But if appealing to your humanity doesn't work, I'd say we of you are a lost cause based on your vitriolic hate.
Feels bad.
Hateful maybe but not BS if you think about why some feel that way.
The game has always been political, but it seems to bumble into the shittier, authoritarian sort a lot.
No more hateful than fuck the rich. Much of the hate is warranted, but there's certainly cool heads that nonetheless have very adequate reasons for saying fuck this diseased institution. I'm white, and thereby insulated from a number of its worst tendencies, but still wouldn't call upon the police in a long list of circumstances (and would beg anyone I know not to call them for something like a wellness check in my own example).
Yeah, Police Story, I had that shirt when I was in high school. But uh.. hrm, weird homage there.
It's pointlessly aggressive and generalising, it's not going to start any sort of actual discussion about problems in the police.
I don't think you know what the words you're using actually mean.
I feel sorry for anyone who loses a loved one in any job, but there is no way you can erase the knowledge I have about the history of policing, opressive practices and times they get away with literal murder.
I have also read enough stories about police whistleblowers to know that goes, and be more than skeptical of the whole machine being an uncompromising force for good.
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