Twitter thread from lighting artist at Naughty Dog on why devs push for 30FPS and what sacrifices are made to reach 60

[Lant_War]

Short read, but the stuff in the U4 MP is something I hadn't noticed. Would be interesting to see how an Uncharted 4 level would need to be modified to get it running at 60.

 

[Lashley]

Did you mean to link the mittens tweet?

 

[NotLiquid]

Interesting tweet to lead this thread off on

 

[Deleted member 2752]

I think you might've pasted the wrong tweet lol

 

[Xavi]

That reply tho

 

[Brhoom]

Lmao

 

[Uzupedro]

LMAAOOOOO

 

[RockmanBN]

uhh

 

[Thiago]

Lant pls

 

[purseowner]

Fascinating thread, hilarious tweet reply.

 

[JohnnyToonami]

No no keep it OP

 

[PanzerKraken]

rwar

 

[Charpunk]

Ummmmmmmmm

 

[mute]

mhmm

 

[Rocketz]

Sexy tech talk

 

[JustinBB7]

Uhhh what

 

[Deleted member 22750]

Whoa

what just happened

 

[Deleted member 54292]

witchy mittens lmao

 

[Naga]

I mean, of course devs that want higher graphics quality go for 30 fps. It's not deep.

Thread has some interesting technical details, but that'd be more interesting to see why they don't push for a 60fps mode to be available as well.

edit:
Those two tweets show well they have no intention of pushing for 60fps:

 

[Tawpgun]

How hard is it to make it a toggle? Genuinely asking.

Pretty 30fps vs less effects 60fps?

 

[Sento]

LMAO

 

[Blade30]

Here is the correct link

https://twitter.com/booncotter/status/1293582212563050496

 

[futuredust]

Nice

 

[MegaSackman]

I'm feeling things.

 

[Nakenorm]

What did I miss?

 

[OnionPowder]

Here is the corrected link

 

[Rover_]

Lant are you thirsty for Boon?

great thread.

 

[Powerofthecloud]

Short read, but the stuff in the U4 MP is something I hadn't noticed. Would be interesting to see how an Uncharted 4 level would need to be modified to get it running at 60.

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Iol excellent. Nothing will get better than this

 

[Uzupedro]

I mean, of course devs that want higher graphics quality go for 30 fps. It's not deep.

Thread has some interesting technical details, but that'd be more interesting to see why they don't push for a 60fps mode to be available as well.

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He said that is not simple to even give an optional mode, It requires a lot of work and time to do so, he said this in one of the replies, I am on the phone so it's hard to link It.

 

[AshenOne]

Nice one Lant. ;)

 

[Bulby]

Did anyone think there was just a magic button?

 

[Hallucinations]

I wonder how RE2/3 did it and still looked good.

 

[WhtR88t]

Personally I hope they crank fidelity and rendering way up and keep the 30fps on PS5.

The only time 30fps really bothers me is if I go from playing the same game on my PC to the console version– other than that I never really notice that 30fps is a problem (especially if it's a beautiful game at a super stable 30).

 

[Tyrant Rave]

Here is the corrected link

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thanks, this one is more interesting

 

[zma1013]

How hard is it to make it a toggle? Genuinely asking.

Pretty 30fps vs less effects 60fps?

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It's super easy, they just have to push the 60 fps button. No other work needed. The button is on the other side of the room though so it's hard to reach unless you have a yard stick or broom.

 

[Naga]

He said that is not simple to even give an optional mode, It requires a lot of work and time to do so, he said this in one of the replies, I am on the phone so it's hard to link It.

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Yeah, I've seen the reply. Of course it's not easy, but like the rest, it's a choice to make.

Given this other reply, I really don't think he really likes the idea of 60fps regardless:


And I kinda disagree with that argument too (not the technical one).

 

[xeroborn55]

I mean he's right, but doom eternal looks better than uncharted and runs at 60fps on console

 

[ArmGunar]

An interesting response

 

[.exe]

At the end of the day, I'm playing a game, not just looking at it. I prefer games feeling more responsive than looking pretty.

Edit: Lmao at the tweet above. Graphics settings, what are they?

 

[RivalGT]

Pretty much everything he said sounds like common sense to me. We should let devs make the games they want to make, I really don't think Sony goes to ND and says make your next game 30 fps or 60.

 

[Qudi]

For anyone wondering what happened xD

 

[Kthulhu]

Can't blame some devs for making those decisions, but it'd be nice if more games let people choose on console like they do on PC. Even if it's something as simple as a premade 60fps mode.

 

[Savinowned]

Hilarious reply, but also insightful tweet thread. I'm personally really glad that they choose 30fps for their singe player games, though I find it hard to argue for it in first person games (unless you can do magic like Bungie does)

 

[Biteren]

nah man, give us a choice to have 60fps, it doesnt have to be the default choice but give it to me

 

[NediarPT88]

Here is the corrected link

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lmao

 

[Deleted member 2752]

At the end of the day, I'm playing a game, not just looking at it. I prefer games feeling more responsive than looking pretty.

Edit: Lmao at the tweet above. Graphics settings, what are they?

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Yeah, they are making an action game after all

 

[CloseTalker]

I mean he's right, but doom eternal looks better than uncharted and runs at 60fps on console

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You just prefer the way DOOM looks, which is fine. But the actual assets in Uncharted are way more detailed than DOOM

 

[Duxxy3]

None of that is really surprising, but I'll always want minimum 60fps. If I don't get the choice on console then I look elsewhere, even if it costs me more on the hardware end.

 

[CreepingFear]

Fuck you, give me my high frame rates.

 

[Tagg]

I mean he's right, but doom eternal looks better than uncharted and runs at 60fps on console

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Doom Eternal absolutely does not look better than Uncharted lol.