Honestly, divorcing this from the conservatives thing, do that many people really talk about politics at work? I am super liberal and I never feel safe talking about politics at work because I don't want to get in arguments with coworkers I'm supposed to get along with. Is it really a common thing?
EXACTLY! We are on the same page. The one thing I can appreciate about the POTUS is I know exactly who he is and what he is about. Nothing to question... no confusion.Exactly... I appreciate ONE thing about this administration: I know where these fucks stand.
Many of the white-collar conservatives I know are accepting of what's coming out of the current administration as long as they have more money in their pockets at the end of the day. I'm not saying the majority are racist, homophobic, or xenophobic. Just that they'll turn a blind eye if they financially benefit from it.
Member when conservative policy pretty much revolved around old school conservative values like... fiscal responsibility and such?
Yeah they dont talk like that anymore in the Party of Trump
Conservative views my ass... They dont exist anymore. This is code that they dont feel safe being hateful, fearful, and racist
You start out in 1954 by saying, "N****, N****, N****." By 1968 you can't say "N****" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N****, N****."
Fiscal conservatism was about the prudence in federal government spending and debt. We don't spend money that we don't have, raising taxes only when necessary to balance the budget, and we keep government as small as possible and limited to essentials...so that the states can decide ALL matters of economic and social policy to best help their population.
Fiscal conservatism was about the prudence in federal government spending and debt. We don't spend money that we don't have, raising taxes only when necessary to balance the budget, and we keep government as small as possible and limited to essentials...so that the states can decide ALL matters of economic and social policy to best help their population.
THAT WAS the original intent of Republicanism. Then that slowly morphed into "Well we gotta have a huge military" and "we gotta be anti-abortion / pro-Christian" and "we gotta be protectionist / xenophobic" and "we gotta reduce taxes on corporations but keep taxes high for the middle class" and "we gotta be racist / deplorable."
"Prudence in federal government spending and debt." = Don't give welfare to anybody poorer than a millionare but it's Ok because black people will be poorer than you.
"We don't spend money that we don't have" = slash taxes for billionaires
"raising taxes only when necessary to balance the budget" = Scream about the budget when the Democratic is in charge than cut taxes to make the deficit skyrocket when they're in office.
"and we keep government as small as possible and limited to essentials..." = See the first section.
"so that the states can decide ALL matters of economic and social policy to best help their population." = Bring back Jim Crow.
It's always been a scam.
Jack, we don't know your biases...I'd rather know what someone biases to rather than try to interpret through their actions. So, if we can say that, and also have the freedom to evolve and change, then at least people know it, and I think it allows us to remove that a little bit more from the work, but it has to be proven out in our actions as well, so ... I mean, we have a lot of conservative-leaning folks in the company as well, and to be honest, they don't feel safe to express their opinions at the company.
See, this is exactly how political debates used to be. We could debate political philosophies civilly and still be able to respect each other. I had plenty of debates about politics all throughout the 2000's and it was just fine, because we could agree to disagree.
Now that paradigm can't exist. If you're Republican today you must by association be complicit with racism and xenophobia. That was a really hard pill for me to swallow and I couldn't be an intelligent person anymore and stay Republican....this is why you see a huge brain drain within the Republican party today. They are the party of anti-intellectualism nowadays which I think is incredibly dangerous.
Conservatives love to moan about their "free speech" being violated, but the constitutional right to free speech only means you have the right to SAY it. Other people then have the equally-valid right to vilify and protest against you if you espouse ignorant, backwards beliefs that serve to discriminate and segregate our country.
That is the rub, if you ask they would be cute and not say them. Cause they know it is some bigoted bull shit. Cause that is what it always ends up being when people say "conservatives are scared to speak".But what opinions would that be?
Because I don't see a problem (even if you disagree with it) with someone trying to argue about less taxes, less government in some domains, more or less interventionism abroad, etc.
Now if it's about the usual Trumpism (thinly veiled, if at all, Misoginy, Xenophobia, Racism, Homo and Trans phobia, Guns everywhere, Christian evangelism,etc.), then yeah, I could see a problem with "it's only my opinion bro".