If those damned minorities stopped complaining then all the criticism of progressive causes would just go away!This is the kind of shit that makes people complain about PC culture, social justice, et al.
First play through was always there so it was maybe ..redundant anyway?
Eh, seems a bit stupid to me. Ableist? Blind is a common word that doesn't just refer to a visually impaired person. Blinded by anger, blind to a problem, etc. So them coming to this conclusion seems really stupid. I guess someone thought this would be some easy, good PR. Swing and a miss.
Using blind to mean ignorant I think is getting to the heart of what some people are criticizing. Whether you agree or not I think at least that makes sense?
Lacking perception is being ignorant. Using blind to mean ignorant is not and should not be a problem.
No, it does not make sense.
if it hurts blind people.Then let's also stop using the following phrases:
- Blind to the truth.
- Love is Blind.
- Turn a blind eye.
- Blind spot.
- Fly blind.
- Blind date.
This is dumb.
The reactions to this thread are expected of a forum absolutely notorious for reading a title and nothing else on the topic.
All this does is remove the official 'blind playthrough' tag for active streamers. It does not dictate what they may or may not use as a stream title or in their overlays while streaming. It doesn't force anybody here to stop using the term, or other terms that seem congruent to it.
That's it. This shouldn't be cause to clutch pearls over how language police are coming for your mouth or thoughts or internet posts.
It makes sense, but that doesn't make it correct. Blind does not mean ignorant, and isn't being used in that way when saying 'blind playthrough'. If someone thought it did I would say education is what's needed in that instance rather than reaction.Using blind to mean ignorant I think is getting to the heart of what some people are criticizing. Whether you agree or not I think at least that makes sense?
A lot of streamers from Sodapoppin to xqc have used "autistic" as a way to describe a lot of things (most all negative).What exactly are you referring to? This is a very specific callout. Are there a bunch of examples of this that you have in mind?
You're right Twitch is doing the absolute minimum low-effort thing possible and the reaction should be "Twitch should do more than this!"What about the people who are blind that are genuinely effected by this?
I think the common consensus seems to be in their favour, not just 'they took our words'
I doubt anyone would have any issue with this at all, if there weren't people who are blind that are feeling marginalised due to not being consulted , when they would have said there was no issue, but possible given the platform to actually raise their legitimate concerns.
Twitch has a ton of problems.
An official tag with "blind" on it wasn't one of them.
Yeah, let's ban speedrunning because I can't run for shit.Then let's also stop using the following phrases:
- Blind to the truth.
- Love is Blind.
- Turn a blind eye.
- Blind spot.
- Fly blind.
- Blind date.
This is dumb.
Unspoiled would probably be a good one. I can see where they are coming from, and it's just words so I'm all for a change that might make people feel slightly better.What's the correct sub for this? I feel like first playthrough isn't quite it. Anyone playing a game for the first time is going to have a first playthrough, but going in "blind" implies you know little to nothing about the game before starting.
Is it reasonable to be hurt by a descriptive word used universally, in countless fields and in dozens of benign colloquialisms?
I genuinely like this.
First playthrough doesn't mean the same as blind playthrough though. They're not equal and far from the same meaning, that's why 'blind playthrough' exists to begin with.I've always used the first playthrough tag, it does nothing to affect me.
It kinda is, because they're using the word as a derogatory term and sort of saying it can only be derogatory and have no other meaning, hence why they changed it.It also isn't a change worth stewing over or getting mad about.
Looks like the only people who wanted this change are PR people and actual people with impairments doesn't mind the word blind because its a description which can be to both persons and objects and is not derogatory in and of itself and would rather they implement things to assist them in using/interact with the site better. So yeah, I have no empathy with this change because it's not being used to describe a person in a mean, hurtful or derogatory way. And that is also dictionary knowledge for you.I'm very unsurprised at this forum having zero empathy or knowledge of how this could be construed as ableist
Was the change a response to critiques from visually impaired people?I'm very unsurprised at this forum having zero empathy or knowledge of how this could be construed as ableist and instead resorting to poor slippery slope arguments and whataboutism.
I've always used the first playthrough tag, it does nothing to affect me. But it isn't a change meant for me anyway.
It also isn't a change worth stewing over or getting mad about.
I asked my father if that phrase bothers him, or if phrases like "going in blind" offend him and he told me no (he actually used much more colorful language than that). That doesn't mean other people who are blind didn't complain. "Blind" in these use cases is ableist in the same way that referring to games that are "old" is ageist. They're not. Words have multiple meanings and connotations. Instead of this performative change, I'd love to see Twitch actually tackle the hate speech that's so prevalent in their chats.Like people have asked and suggested. I want to know what blind people think about this, first and foremost. Not what "allies" have to say.
I'm very unsurprised at this forum having zero empathy or knowledge of how this could be construed as ableist and instead resorting to poor slippery slope arguments and whataboutism.
I've always used the first playthrough tag, it does nothing to affect me. But it isn't a change meant for me anyway.
It also isn't a change worth stewing over or getting mad about.
I think we should not call blind people blind, but rather visually impaired.
Are you going to play in a trolly way, or are you just playing without knowing what system it's for? I kid, I kid.imma fire up my ignorant playthrough of the last of us 2 on twitch in a few guys
i'll be covering my eyes during the joel part and telling myself he just went out for cigarettesAre you going to play in a trolly way, or are you just playing without knowing what system it's for? I kid, I kid.
Twitch Removes 'Blind Playthrough' Tag After Disability Criticism
Since 2018, Twitch has had a tag system that allows streamers to categorize their broadcasts according to their content’s contents and give viewers an at-a-glance idea of what they’re about. Tags also tie into Twitch’s still-rudimentary (but increasingly prominent) recommendation system. Until...kotaku.com
That's offensive to incels.first playthrough != blind playthrough
virgin playthrough it is