I'm 100% happy with my 900F and think it looks fantastic color and display wise, love the upscaling, but I'm always in FOMO mode with OLED.
But then I think about not worrying about burn in and being able to leave my tv on windows since I use it with my PC and getting anxiety about burn in that the halo effect of FALD isn't as terrible as it may seem. First world problem I know.
So I might buy one from Best Buy to test it out in the living room. I'm dumb.
Samsung LEDs are great for gaming and often looks great.
I hate the looks of most tvs and wouldn't have a tv with black frame in my living room. I regret buying a computer monitor with black frame, it's like having a stained gloryhole in the middle of the room.
Goldstar give infulencers free ones most weeks, maybe there are a lot of YoutubersI find it odd that supposedly 71% of era members have an oled.
It's 71% of the 300 or so votes in the poll. There are thousands of era members. Makes sense that 200+ people on a forum that caters to enthusiasts, in a thread about high end TVs, own high end TVs. Personally I've owned multiple HDR displays since 2016, inclusing QLED, FALD Sonys, and budget Samsung (for my bedroom). I'm still impressed by my 3 year old OLED all the time, and it's just a LG B7. I have like 6000 hours on the thing, have a PC, ps4 pro and switch hooked up to it and it's just a treat every time.I find it odd that supposedly 71% of era members have an oled.
It's been fine for me in Game mode. I don't play many multiplayer games though.thought about pulling the trigger on that but the input lag seems a little high, especially at 1080p?
There it is.QLED is only in this conversation because of effective corporate advertising convincing schmucks that it belongs in the same conversation as OLED.
The newer OLED models definitely seem better at preventing burn-in, as well. It only seems to be an issue in extreme use cases; anyone using it for varied media don't seem to have to worry after looking at a few burn-in tests people have done, so I'm surprised it's still mentioned as often as it is. It's one of the reasons I avoided plasmas in the past, though.I wonder if burn-in is something to care about really. If you think about the lifetime of TVs, the fact that people are running crappy LCDs with horrible backlight bleed already, and that you probably need a side-by-side test to spot burn-in at the end. Is it really something to worry about? I have a monitor with a scratch in the middle of the display and my brain wipes it away every time i use it, I have to have others spot it for me to see it again.
I do not have an OLED, not yet, but going QLED feels like a compromise at this time.
I wonder if burn-in is something to care about really. If you think about the lifetime of TVs, the fact that people are running crappy LCDs with horrible backlight bleed already, and that you probably need a side-by-side test to spot burn-in at the end. Is it really something to worry about? I have a monitor with a scratch in the middle of the display and my brain wipes it away every time i use it, I have to have others spot it for me to see it again.
I do not have an OLED, not yet, but going QLED feels like a compromise at this time.
Yeah. It matters when you pay 2,000usd and your new tv can't last 2 years because you play too many games and watch too much tv with static logos
warranty is a must
5 years / 5 hours a day seem fine to me.Real-Life OLED Burn-In Test On 6 TVs
There are concerns about OLED long-term performance due to the possibility of burn-in. We bought 6 LG OLED C7s to play real, non-altered content. It should give you a better idea of what to expect depending on what you watch on your TV.www.rtings.com
"Our stance remains the same, we don't expect most people who watch varied content without static areas to experience burn-in issues with an OLED TV."
If it works out that way everyone should be fine with it. How many people watch varied content? How many watch hundreds and hundreds of hours of the same channel constantly? Who plays the same game for a hundred hours? I know casuals who own 3 games.5 years / 5 hours a day seem fine to me.Real-Life OLED Burn-In Test On 6 TVs
There are concerns about OLED long-term performance due to the possibility of burn-in. We bought 6 LG OLED C7s to play real, non-altered content. It should give you a better idea of what to expect depending on what you watch on your TV.www.rtings.com
"Our stance remains the same, we don't expect most people who watch varied content without static areas to experience burn-in issues with an OLED TV."
LG OLEDs must sell a bunch then.I can tell you that my most commonly replaced panel over the past year was the B9/C9. The year before that? B8/C8. It was due to burn in and I assure you these clients were not running rtings test on their own televisions.
Do you notice much of a difference between the B6 and the C9?I have an LG C9 in the bedroom, along with an LG B6 in the living room but I've never watched on a QLED outside of showroom floors so I don't feel I'm qualified to compare the two panel technologies. I will say, though, that even with the older LG B6, I've never felt the disadvantage of OLED in maximum nits compared to top-end LCDs to be hindering picture quality in any way. The OLED light in ISF Dark Room is at 35 and it looks bright enough to me even during day time with the curtains open when watching stuff like YouTube videos. When watching movies or TV shows during daytime, I use ISF Bright Room with OLED light set to 55 and with that, I honestly don't see why I need, or even should want, a brighter TV for SDR content. Same with HDR. I think most people are so used to almost eye-searing brightness just to be wowed by their TVs when the goal should always be, IMO, to present as natural an image on screen as possible. Maybe my opinion will change if I ever have extended experience watching on top-end FALDs.
Thanks. I have a C7 and was wondering if upgrading would do much for me. I am interested in hdmi 2.1 features that will come later though.I honestly don't. The perfect blacks are always immediately noticeable even during the middle of the day compared to my LCD monitors but in terms of brightness, I would need to focus more on picture quality instead of immersing myself in a film, TV show or games for me to notice. That remains true even in HDR. I played the RE2 Remake first on the B6 and when I replayed it on the C9, I don't remember being more wowed by the highlights (best example for me would be the headlights on the police cars in the gas station or in the underground garage) on the C9 than on the B6. So the perfect blacks are immediately obvious, no matter the lighting conditions, but I need a more critical eye to discern the difference in max nits.
Think the pricing has become a lot better. Right now a Samsung 65" QLED Q70R costs the same as a 55" C9 in my country.I bought a QLED because it was a $1000 cheaper at the time, the OLED screen was nicer but not worth $1000 extra
QLED because cheaper. If anybody can recommend a QLED with 2.1 HDMI and decent input lag, I'd be grateful.
I'll be honest, I haven't been paying attention to the TV space these last two years. How far off are MicroLED TVs? Isn't Apple trying to launch MicroLED products this fall or Q1 2021?
Went with the Oled and have to say that I'm pretty satisfied so far. Colors are great and brightness is pretty on par with old LEDs so that's great for me.
Set it up during the after noon and daylight didn't bother me at all. Only thing is getting used to them deep blacks with different streaming services and games. Is it normal having to tweak picture settings depending of what service I'm watching or game I'm playing?
For example, Netflix seems to feel different in colors and shadows than Disney+. And GOW, once I got it to a place I thought looked amazing, had to then tweak picture mode and its settings for The Lost Legacy because I wasn't liking how it looked.
Never had that issue with LED once I got it to where I wanted it picture wise.
That's why we have standards, I set my C9 up as close to the standards as possible, which is pretty much ISF Dark Room or Light Room depending on your surrounding light levels.Went with the Oled and have to say that I'm pretty satisfied so far. Colors are great and brightness is pretty on par with old LEDs so that's great for me.
Set it up during the after noon and daylight didn't bother me at all. Only thing is getting used to them deep blacks with different streaming services and games. Is it normal having to tweak picture settings depending of what service I'm watching or game I'm playing?
For example, Netflix seems to feel different in colors and shadows than Disney+. And GOW, once I got it to a place I thought looked amazing, had to then tweak picture mode and its settings for The Lost Legacy because I wasn't liking how it looked.
Never had that issue with LED once I got it to where I wanted it picture wise.
TCL is introducing Mini LED to their 6-series this year. Not microLED, sure, but it's a step toward it. I wouldn't expect actual MicroLED for years.
They are here just very big and expensive. Samsung makes them, and they used the moniker of "The Wall" on some a year or so back.I'll be honest, I haven't been paying attention to the TV space these last two years. How far off are MicroLED TVs?
As for me I have a 900F Sony and I really like my TV. It's good for now but I really want to get an LG OLED at some point.
I like my X900F as well, but the flaws are really grating:
It cost a fortune here (Singapore) too so generally I think I'm done with LCD next time.
- At least on mine, if you have an ARC device (like a soundbar) and then use devices into HDMI1 or 4, within a day the ARC connection will fail. I learned painfully over time the only way to "fix" this is to just unplug everything in those two HDMI ports. Rinse and repeat as necessary...
- Just generally not fast Android. It's great and flexible in terms of apps, but speed and specs are really not as good as a $60 chinese TV box. An Android Box would solve the problem but...see the HDMI issue.
- We got Android 9 but none of the HDMI 2.1 enhancements like eARC or Apple device streaming. :(