Well, the fear is that the Dem nominee could lose Wisconsin by a sliver again and people voted for a relatively strong Green Party nominee Tulsi Gabbard who convinces enough people who would be inclined to vote for the Dem nominee that they're the real issue. Obviously this is more realistic with some candidates (Biden) than others (Warren, Bernie)Isn't Gabbard polling like 1% in the Democratic primary? If she's going to run third party she wouldn't matter.
It absolutely is not. Whatabouism isn't a "point" it's a way of deflecting criticism by trying to attack something else and turn the discussion elsewhere. And why the fuck are you talking about Bernie, he has absolutely nothing to do with anything here? Chomsky's a massive piece of shit Russia apologist , even going to bat for them on the Ukraine invasion, and is a gigantic fucking trash person beloved by anyone who likes people who say mean things about the US while pretending fascist authoritarians are being oppressed by it.It's actually a perfectly legitimate point. We've been going on about Russian interference for years and largely no one seems to care about Israel, as far as I know Bernie is the only presidential candidate to publicly criticize Israel.
My problem is liking what Noam Chomsky had to say? No, a lot more people in the Middle East and Central America would be alive and generally better off if we listened to what Chomsky had to say. He's one of the great intellectuals of the past 50 years.
I agree with most of this but just as a point of clarification most sore-loser laws have carved out an exception for presidential candidates and wouldn't apply to Gabbard.Well, the fear is that the Dem nominee could lose Wisconsin by a sliver again and people voted for a relatively strong Green Party nominee Tulsi Gabbard who convinces enough people who would be inclined to vote for the Dem nominee that they're the real issue. Obviously this is more realistic with some candidates (Biden) than others (Warren, Bernie)
However, Tulsi explicitly ruled it out when asked today and at this point she's going to start petitioning for ballot access for the primary and if she's on the Dem primary ballot in any state but NY, CT, or IA, she'll be subject to the state's Sore Loser laws. And she's polling fine enough (like 2% in a crowded race) that I bet she ends up on a ton of state's ballots.
Wait... Clinton didn't name her right?
lmao did this dumbass get baited
Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill confirmed that the former secretary of state was referring to Gabbard. Gabbard, who has previously said she would not run as a third-party candidate, fired back on Twitter.
It absolutely is not. Whatabouism isn't a "point" it's a way of deflecting criticism by trying to attack something else and turn the discussion elsewhere. And why the fuck are you talking about Bernie, he has absolutely nothing to do with anything here? Chomsky's a massive piece of shit Russia apologist , even going to bat for them on the Ukraine invasion, and is a gigantic fucking trash person beloved by anyone who likes people who say mean things about the US while pretending fascist authoritarians are being oppressed by it.
Jesus, this Russia thing has broken a lot of you.It absolutely is not. Whatabouism isn't a "point" it's a way of deflecting criticism by trying to attack something else and turn the discussion elsewhere. And why the fuck are you talking about Bernie, he has absolutely nothing to do with anything here? Chomsky's a massive piece of shit Russia apologist , even going to bat for them on the Ukraine invasion, and is a gigantic fucking trash person beloved by anyone who likes people who say mean things about the US while pretending fascist authoritarians are being oppressed by it.
Someone being a Putin bootlicker when he invades a neighboring country is not a positive character trait. Actually noticing that and reacting accordingly is not "being broken".
Lol what?
I wonder when she will start attacking Sanders and Warren. Both are a real threat for corporate Democrats.
This isn't a fair comparison.Glenn Greenwald made his name on publishing the US government's abuse of power.
Now he's caping for Nixon 2.0 in Watergate 2.0.
Amazing.
Isn't Gabbard polling like 1% in the Democratic primary? If she's going to run third party she wouldn't matter.
So, Tulsi is a non-starter for a number of reasons but I think this Russian angle is so overplayed.
I like what Noam Chomsky had to say:
"First of all, if you're interested in foreign interference in our elections, whatever the Russians may have done barely counts or weighs in the balance as compared with what another state does, openly, brazenly and with enormous support."
"Israeli intervention in U.S. elections vastly overwhelms anything the Russians may have done," Chomsky said. "I mean, even to the point where the prime minister of Israel, Netanyahu, goes directly to Congress, without even informing the president, and speaks to Congress, with overwhelming applause, to try to undermine the president's policies—what happened with Obama and Netanyahu in 2015. Did Putin come to give an address to the joint sessions of Congress trying to—calling on them to reverse U.S. policy, without even informing the president?"
RT is of course, Russian government owned and directed propaganda lol
Neera is definitely NOT backed by any special interest group but she WILL punch you if you bring up Hillary's vote for the Iraq war.
I'm not disagreeing with Neera. Tulsi is a piece of shit too lolThe irony of using whataboutism (popularized by the russian government) to deflect attention away from criticism of a russian favored candidate.
RT is of course, Russian government owned and directed propaganda lol
Tulsi was almost done lol She had a bad/boring debate, no one was talking about her and her campaign was probably about to go away.. And then here.comes.Hillary lol Why did she say this now lol This is going to energize her campaign, make her look like a victim to some and give her enough % in the polls and money to qualify for debates. You just know she's going to fundraise from this. Of course she's not going to win from this, but It'll give her enough support to stay in the race indefinitely. I can't wait to see her on the debate stage next time. She's probably going to call for Hillary to join the race. haha It's going to be crazy
Stop stating facts, you're distracting us from the narrativeThere's a major difference between Trump's smearing and Clinton's. She didn't even mention her by name. Gabbard's response was very maga-like
I wonder when she will start attacking Sanders and Warren. Both are a real threat for corporate Democrats.
I think you have it backwards here. Literally the only reason that anyone defends Tulsi is because she backed Bernie in 2016. If she backed Hillary or didn't back anyone, she would have zero fans and her outright appalling record on foreign policy and LGBT issues would not be handwaved away by people who claim to be progressives. It would just be quietly agreed upon by anyone who has actually heard of her that she's to the right of most mainstream Democrats on most issues.I don't think Tulsi is a good candidate but I do think the amount of hate she gets is disproportionately large especially considering the things she's done to support candidates like Bernie in the past.
RT is of course, Russian government owned and directed propaganda lol
So her being a racist and homophobe who supports mass genocide for minorities in Middle East countries is less bad because she endorsed Bernie once?I don't think it's right to say she was targeted by Hillary from the start but I think you can make a case Tulsi has been smeared by the establishment politicians and their cronies with interest in keeping the forever wars going.
I don't think Tulsi is a good candidate but I do think the amount of hate she gets is disproportionately large especially considering the things she's done to support candidates like Bernie in the past.
Someone being a Putin bootlicker when he invades a neighboring country is not a positive character trait. Actually noticing that and reacting accordingly is not "being broken".
You can't make logical arguments with Bernie Stans.So her being a racist and homophobe who supports mass genocide for minorities in Middle East countries is less bad because she endorsed Bernie once?
What the actual fuck?
I am glad people are starting to wake up to the fact that Glenn Greenwald is a alt-right pandering piece of shit.
Well, the fear is that the Dem nominee could lose Wisconsin by a sliver again and people voted for a relatively strong Green Party nominee Tulsi Gabbard who convinces enough people who would be inclined to vote for the Dem nominee that they're the real issue. Obviously this is more realistic with some candidates (Biden) than others (Warren, Bernie)
i don't know if I'd call him that, at very best he's just a contrarian, but personally I think he's the horshoe theory in real life... went so far left he came around the other end
Contrarian don't constantly pal around with authoritarian regimens who are on a quest to eradicate LGBT people.
He was never left wing. Stop trying to paint him as some "fallen hero", the guy was always shit.