Trumper caught up by ICE, Mislabeled an Immigrant, Took Year to Prove Citizenship, Says No One Should Be Treated That Way, Is Voting Trump in 2020
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you aint got no right to be doing a sob story and cryin like that if you gonna vote for it to keep happening idiot
Trump supporters are just like him, they will always find ways to shock you on how dumb they can be.
This is a person who thought Trump would help her out if she wrote him on Facebook.
Which, ironically, can only be rationally explained as a fundamental failure of civilized society.
When you've committed that far, I guess sometimes it's easier to just continue the course rather than going through some self-evaluation.
When Trump said that thing about shooting a guy on the streets and still winning he was right. The guy is trash. Guy is affiliated with rapist, is very likely a rapist himself, sex traffickers, pedos, is very possibly a pedo himself, known racist, is racist, wants to bang his daughter, and the list goes on. People still vote for him...
I have no idea what these people gain? Is it a sense of purpose? Do they just like wealthy white frauds? I cannot understand. It's more frightening than funny that this didn't turn an individual.
More impressive feat than Trump's presidency.
I have no idea what these people gain? Is it a sense of purpose? Do they just like wealthy white frauds? I cannot understand. It's more frightening than funny that this didn't turn an individual.
More impressive feat than Trump's presidency.
Don't want to self reflect because the libs will rub your face in the pile of shit you made.
I don't think that is a problem inherent to Trump fans, I think it's a general issue with humanity in general. Not that it excuses her, just that we have to understand how and why it happens to know how to prevent and change it.
I often think what it would take for me to vote Republican, and I donno, I don't think Obama personally putting me in jail for a year is gonna do it.
This is a bit different since this is a question of policy that I assume she supported at least in the general sense, but I look at this thread and see how it's all about laughing at her an not about freaking the fuck up that ICE can do that shit to an american citizen, and I kinda gets how everything goes back immediately to partisan politics framing (I am often guilty of that too by the way, and to be clear, I think the issue is 100% the way politics are covered, I don't believe this is a moral failure of people).
The jump of "No one should be treated this way" being justified with still voting for him is that she thinks no one should be wrongly accused, she believes that everyone else is actually here illegally and also deserves that treatment. It's not stupidity, it's malice.
I think it's more that people only end up casually indoctrinated into fascist alternate realities when our democratic social fabric is no longer performing its basic necessary functions.
People aren't freaking out at ICE here because we do that already in the multiple threads about not only ICE's abuses of power but the concentration camps as well. Lampooning her doesn't actually mean we inherently endorse ICE. The context is different just as it would be different between topics about a person's house accidentally burning down compared to a person purposefully burning their house down.
This is an american citizen, that's not the usual ICE story that you see.
And I didn't accused anyone of endorsing ICE, I just think that who she votes for is literally the least important part of this story, and yet this is literally the only thing I saw anyone talking about.
I think it's perfectly fine to dunk on her, I really really do, but like, is there really no one here who is at least kinda worried about getting caught up in that shit?
Like, not everyone, but 4 pages and not a single one?
I think this is a bigger deal than "Trump voter gonna keep voting Trump" which is really just a private case of what everyone I think knows - most people just don't switch parties.
Apologies. 'Endorse' was definitely the wrong word. But I do assure that no one is under any allusions that ICE isn't testing and overstepping their power under this administration uncontested. It's worrying, frightening & fucking awful and everyone currently employed at ICE and the politicians enabling and excusing them either needs to be fired and/or jailed while the entire institution needs to be reformatted from the ground up. Ribbing this woman comes from a place of understanding that reality and rightly being frustrated with the people like herself who actively enable ICE and those that politically defend ICE. People are angry at this woman and expressing it because they understand how she's directly connected to the perpetuation of this type of inhuman violation. And people aren't directly mentioning ICE's behavior in this topic because it goes without saying; especially since, like I mentioned before, there's news and topics nearly every week that highlights and reinforces the truth of ICE's status as a broken and cruel organization.
Come on, compare the original NYT article title to the thread title.
People want to dunk on trump supporters and that's fine, I enjoy that too, I just really really really think this thread is focusing on the unimportant issue.
Like, do you really think who she voted here is the biggest issue here?
This is one of those examples of the people in charge being petty morons, and it's a situation I've had to deal with before after losing my wallet
"I'm sorry sir, but in order to get this piece of ID you need two valid pieces of ID. Oh, you don't have two? Well, to get an additional piece of valid ID I'm going to need to see two pieces of valid ID."
If you have a birth certificate, a driver's license and a passport, then you are who you say you are, even if they're expired - I hate this kind of head-directly-up-the-anus bureaucracy
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"Why aren't you focused on fixing this system that she's literally voting to not change and instead focusing on how she's voting!"
Voting is the fix. It's literally the only fix for this.
EDIT: And her citizenship is irrelevant. Her own quote is "I don't think anyone should be treated like that, period".
I can't believe there are so many stupid people in this country. It's bewildering and I wish someone had told child me lol.
This story is not painting her in a sympathetic light. It's making her look like the idiot she is while highlighting the problem with ICE.
I don't see it going away until only white people are allowed into to the US.
The dumbest part is she actually thought messaging Trump on Facebook was a legitimate course of action.
Cultist reaffirms unequivocal support for cult leader despite being mistreated by cult. Bleats out cult slogan.
There are some Trump general election voters who didn't vote for him during the 2016 GOP primary and would prefer he was primaried in 2020. Then there are voters like this woman.
