Trump to make "major announcement" regarding the "humanitarian crisis" on the border and the shutdown tomorrow live at 3 p.m EST
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Blame the democrats, dangerous illegal immegrants, drive around the wall in cars, cars have wheels -> wall works etc. Generally lie and be stupid.
There, spoiled the whole thing.
There, spoiled the whole thing.
I want this man to face consequences. I want him to be punished. I know the right thing will happen, but because the way our country handles confrontation I know he's never going to be punished. He's going to be ostracized. And that makes me angry. It's this bubbling anger that never has any conclusion, and hasn't for three decades. I hate that I was sold as a child our country was this beacon of freedom and righteousness.
If the WH hasn't discussed it with Dem leadership then there is nothing to discuss, this isn't how you negotiate it's outright offensive to the Speaker of the house and the voters. The man baby refuses to sit with a woman leader and come to a consensus and this is what he does instead? Fuck him.
Probably a distraction to draw attention to this event using a fake Trump while the real Trump take a private plane to Mexico, then Brazil, Then Mother Russia. He's defecting everyone.
Yup.
"This administration has concluded it can give the Democrats exactly what they've been asking for, a wall with the words 'Welcome to America painted on it. We are reaching across the aisle and meeting them halfway on this, already having given into their demands it be made of steel and not concrete. At this point it would be irresponsible of the Democrats to keep the government shutdown when we've offered them everything they've demanded. Each day they hold paychecks hostage this country loses 1 billion people to illegal immigrant violence. MAGA!"
I can see that happening. I also see him saying (or repeating):
- "people can't pay rent? It's okay the landlord will understand"
- "many many people have told me to still strong for the wall"
- "many American die every year due to no wall"
- maybe mention the wheel again
"We will accept ten billion and you must personally suck the president's dick, then we'll end the shutdown."
I honestly don't understand why he isn't going the national emergency route. It's the only face-saving card in his hand.
Uhhhj, I'll be drunk by then and I'm not part of his base!
On Saturday? Ok
Because it's not really legally viable and the moment he declares an emergency Pelosi has the authority to immediately end it with a House resolution.
I expect he'll either lie and say Democrats have agreed to terms that they haven't, or say he's come up with an offer so great that the blame for the shutdown has to move to the Dems if they don't agree.
Yes, but that only matters if he really cares about the wall; I think he just wants something to tell his base. If he declares a national emergency and it dies in the courts, it almost gives him more ammunition for 2020: "Look guys I tried but the swamp fought back, help me keep up the fight!"
Unfortunately both chambers have the pass resolutions to end it... Senate will never pass one.. with that being said even if he declares an emergency the money has to come from somewhere and again congress has wide authority to veto if they don't feel a budget can be redirected..
Oh, I thought only the House needed to pass one. Not sure why he hasn't gone for it then. It's a dumb idea that would set a horrible precedent and likely be struck down in the courts but when has any of that ever stopped him before?
a joint resolution (not to be confused with a concurrent resolution) is just a fancy name for a bill. It would need to be passed by both houses and signed by Trump. That law could allow a show vote on the 'emergency' to be forced in the Senate but that won't do any real good
As for funding, the point of this gambit is to steal funding that has already been allocated elsewhere (like disaster relief from Democratic and/or brown areas)
I really want him to play the national emergency card. Trump and the GOP has already shown disregard of so many ofthe "gentleman's agreements" that hold together American governance it will be very interesting to see if this is another part of the system is paper thin. AFAIK there is nowhere that states the definition of a National Emergency, so much like the "high crimes and misdemeanors" that allow a president to be impeached it is completely subjective. Then you add in the fact that there is already a mechanism to stop a declaration of national emergency so I figure the courts will simply say that they should use that if the dont beleive it to be legitimate. Only problem is the Senate is also in Trumps control via McConnell.
They're going to attempt to shift the narrative by offering some concession and dare the Democratic House to refuse.
When the House rejects their "deal", the administration and its allies will run coordinated messages of how the Democrats are keeping the government shut down and jeopardizing the country solely out of spite for the president.
Time will tell if it works.
When the House rejects their "deal", the administration and its allies will run coordinated messages of how the Democrats are keeping the government shut down and jeopardizing the country solely out of spite for the president.
Time will tell if it works.
Never trust what any of Trump's inside sources say... Even if they are convinced that he won't do something, he'll still do it if he really wants to and then he'll laugh like a maniac in private while everyone else scrambles to explain his behavior. Did everyone forget the Syria withdrawal already?
If Trump announces Geno for Smash Ultimate, all will be forgiven.
Probably Trump's "budget resolution" that McConnell is going to try to shove through the senate so that democrats will be the bad guys keeping the government closed for once in the shutdown.
Wonder if they can succeed. Probably not, seeing how incompetent they are at passing anything, but they might just be desperate enough to get it through.
Wonder if they can succeed. Probably not, seeing how incompetent they are at passing anything, but they might just be desperate enough to get it through.
This is my expectation. Bullshit "deal", Ds don't budge, Rs try to flip the script and say now Ds are really the ones not trying to make a deal