Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
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Trump is an AI sent from the future to expose all the flaws in US' Democracy. The bottom just keeps getting lower and nearly half the nation is fine with that.
This is part of the process of checks and balances
The house made a request
Barr refused
The house held Barr in contempt
Trump retaliated by exerting executive privilege
The house will take it to court
This is literally checks and balances in action
When this little escapade is done, I doubt history will be too kind to this administration.
It's been wholly devoid of ethical standards, and will force some major changes to the litany of guidelines and 'gentlemen's agreements' that form the basis of executive power.
"Within the law" just means, "I'm taking my shitty argument to court."
According to "the law," as per the White House, it's not an emolument when your shell company makes the money.
It's not obstruction when you have the powers to fire someone.
It's not a violation of the Hatch act when Kellyanne does it.
It's not lying on your foreign contacts for security clearance when Jared does it.
They tried the Muslim ban.
They just do illegal shit, then say, "nuh uhn, I'm pretty sure I can do whateva."
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/08/trump-executive-privilege-mueller-testimony-1311147
Have you been paying attention?
Those Republican fucks have many ongoing cases in multiple states regarding voter suppression and fraud. They have undermined the fuck out of the election results through gerrymandering.
What power does the President have to do what you're suggesting?
Barr is supposed to be a check on the president too...we are watching the checks and balances get destroyed a little more each day.
Where this particular check fell apart was the Senate not vetting candidates properly.
But that's why additional checks exist, such as we're seeing now.
Fine then.
If a Dem wins in 2020 (that is to say, he wins the electoral college vote and not just the popular vote) and Trump and the GOP, successfully stops him from getting into the White House, I'll concede defeat.
I'd say the check fails with the AG refuses to do his job. I realize his past.
We still have people with checks and balances bullshit here?
Really? After everything that happened in the past weeks? No wonder America is fucked.
Really? After everything that happened in the past weeks? No wonder America is fucked.
The discussion isn't about voter suppression. It's about Republicans losing, just saying it doesn't count because reasons, and staying in office.
If you want to ignore the parallels between the current US and turkey 5 years ago have fun but don't start complaining when you suddenly wake up living in a authoritarian country.
The AG is a part of the Executive Branch. It's not meant to be a check on the President.
The Republican-controlled Senate knew exactly what they were doing when they voted in the guy who stopped the Iran-Contra investigation from touching George HW Bush.
I assume this is an effort to force the impeachment thing which will surely fail, sadly; An attempt to force Democrats hand into an unwinnable scenario.
Guilty and enablers complicit.
What way will the courts go, any hope?
I know the Dems are going through the stages but they need to make sure they follow through on everything, scorched earth. Who cares if they fail, it needs to be done each and every time.
What way will the courts go, any hope?
I know the Dems are going through the stages but they need to make sure they follow through on everything, scorched earth. Who cares if they fail, it needs to be done each and every time.
LOL - if that somehow happens (not sure how it could, but...), I'm pretty sure we'll have way bigger fish to fry. And you guys better be in the streets.
I just don't think Trump has enough of a stronghold of the military to make this dictatorship happen
At the end of the day, the military is loyal to the office of the presidency, not Trump, specifically. He'd have to have blind loyalty from a large majority of the military to make any attempt at a coup. Our huge, far reaching military actually works in our advantage for this. Harder to get a sizable amount of blind faith when the military is huge and spread around the world.
The AG represents the american people. It is the AG's job as the head of the DOJ to advise the President. That is a check that does not exist when the AG refuses to abide by laws/precedence.
Perhaps we should re-examine this?
Seems like a rather obvious source of potential cronyism and corruption.
What do you wanna bet. What do we change our avatars to based on who wins???
I wouldn't throw out the idea of Russia hacking our 2020 elections. This timeline is batshit crazy.
The military isn't gonna play any part. If you actually think they'd remove him from office forcefully i have a bridge to sell you.
Erdogan didn't need the military to become a dictator and neither will Trump if the citizens don't stop him.
Ask people in turkey when they realized they live in a dictatorship.
Hint: when it was too late.
When talking about checks and balances in the context of the United States government, "checks and balances" refers to the relationship between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government.
The AG is a part of the Executive branch, and serves at the pleasure of the President.
After just watching this fuckle spew so much bs a few minutes ago, it pleases me to see this.
https://twitter.com/scontorno/status/1126155157333532672
https://twitter.com/scontorno/status/1126155157333532672
LMAO true, accusing everyone of being a victim of Maddow delusion.
Someone cursed all of us to live in interesting times. So far the courts have been holding things together no matter what party the judge is with so hopefully that continues to happen.
That's a major failure in the US system. How is a political pick supposed to be a check on the administration that picks said person? It's based on some kind of honor code and we're seeing what happens when you have a bunch of people with low to no morals in these positions.
That's a major failure in the US system. How is a political pick supposed to be a check on the administration that picks said person? It's based on some kind of honor code and we're seeing what happens when you have a bunch of people with low to no morals in these positions.
How would Trump invalidate an election and remain in power without the military aiding him?
How does Erdogan do it?
Sue for voter fraud, win because you appoint the judges, have new elections until you win.
I hadn't realized the structure of Turkey's government was precisely identical to the US's.
Trump probably knows his only hope of avoiding the courts, prison etc. is being President, does that mean he tries to be a dictator, unlikely, do a deal for a slap on the wrists, absolutely, I think that's what he is probably doing right now, gaining favour with the right groups to get him out of jail, why they would bat for him when he is toast, no idea but they are scum.
The President doesn't have the power to remain in office. He doesn't have any say over elections, he doesn't have to agree with the outcome.
If he loses, he is no longer President on 1/20/21. If he just refuses to physically leave the White House, he will be escorted out by the Secret Service, because he's not the President anymore.