Can you share some examples of these types of posts please? Link post numbers. Curious what exactly your referring to I'd like to understand.
None. These "purity test" whining posts in here are hilarious.
Politics/Racism/Sexism/Accusations threads.
They're always hostile as fuck, and some posters are simply out for blood OR just continue spouting the same tired shit they always do until someone goes too far. They always turn into a game of "gotcha" and it's just not worth the mental energy to bother. They really show the lack of "community" this place has sometimes.
Wow there are alot of people partially showing their ass in this thread with the things they are worried about. It's kind of amazing to watch.
Especially those about "purity tests" or "not liberal enough". As long as you don't have a shit opinion or view then there is nothing to worry about. The fact that you are worried says alot though.
The thread is specifically about what people are worried about and why they don't post in some threads. No need to shit on people or be all judgmental, c'mon.
This and politicsAnytime gaming side has a topic about women and/or minorities.
It should be pretty obvious why I don't trust "Gamers" to handle those kind of topics with any sort of nuance.
Pretty muchPolitics/Racism/Sexism/Accusations threads.
They're always hostile as fuck, and some posters are simply out for blood OR just continue spouting the same tired shit they always do until someone goes too far. They always turn into a game of "gotcha" and it's just not worth the mental energy to bother. They really show the lack of "community" this place has sometimes.
This.
Not you specifically, the users who go into "sensitive" threads, drop their hot take and complain of piling on when they are challenged, some discussions aren't worth having, though there's something to be said for educating people but again, I've seen a lot of bad faith attempts to justify stupid shit, usually involving women, claims of harrasment/abuse, blaming victims for being victims etc.
I have a great example of both these points actually, it even features me!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fo...es-so-on-live-stream-up-charged.86059/page-12
Post #566
Pretty much.Wow there are alot of people partially showing their ass in this thread with the things they are worried about. It's kind of amazing to watch.
Especially those about "purity tests" or "not liberal enough". As long as you don't have a shit opinion or view then there is nothing to worry about. The fact that you are worried says alot though.
This irritates me to no end you have no idea.I still don't understand how it's acceptable to refer to the very worst parts of the videogame community with such an all encompassing term like "gamers".
Certain political and social topics in which you're expected to echo the one allowed opinion/point of view.
Trying to have a discussion is not viable in those. You'll get multiple replies either attacking you, calling you an idiot or sarcastically comparing your posts to alt righter speak.
I appreciate it when rational people can disagree in a respectable fashion and not try to look beyond your words for some "hidden agenda".
Since moderation allows this kind of behavior, certain threads will always be 100% one sided. In those threads if my opinion doesn't fall in line I just refrain from posting.
It's a shame it has to be this way. And it's only gotten worse with time.
I get that, but there is no reason to worry about those specific things unless your views or opinion break the rules. You don't get banned from Era just for disagreeing with people.
Like for example this
This doesn't happen. I am pretty sure the mods have never banned someone for simply disagreeing with others. And if they were banned during a disagreement then there is alot more to the story than a simple difference of opinion.
Getting banned is not the main issue though, it's how differing opinions are prosecuted and piled on aggressively in a non civil manner that's tolerated in this discussion forum.> ERA
> "Too liberal"
L O L
Never ever been banned for opposing opinions. Just two well deserved ones for being too fuckin' heated on GAF.
Somehow I managed to debate someone over... Something about Islam and free speech, I think? Where I took an opinion that wasn't 'too liberal'. Am I overdue for my ban or something?
Pretty much.
Getting banned is not the main issue though, it's how differing opinions are prosecuted and piled on aggressively in a non civil manner that's tolerated in this discussion forum.
A major disconnect is that not every opposing post is a "hot take" (god I hate this term). A good number are well articulated, yet are perceived as trolling or disingenuous.
Let's say that you take some time writing a reply stating very clearly what your thought process was like. Without attacking anyone.Can you list an example of a well articulated post being treated that way? Because I have never seen that myself.
If a post is getting "prosecuted and piled on" its always been deserved in my experience. Usually when people try and defend something heinous or try and downplay something serious. And I say that as someone who got treated that way in the past and looking back I 100% deserved it.
Let's say that you take some time writing a reply stating very clearly what your thought process was like. Without attacking anyone.
Let's also say that another user read your post and found it to be completely in the wrong and maybe even offensive in some way.
What would benefit discussion more? Replying with "you are wrong and this is why: ..." or "wow look at this dumb post"?
I get that, but there is no reason to worry about those specific things unless your views or opinion break the rules. You don't get banned from Era just for disagreeing with people.
I disagree. There's been quite a few members that have mentioned problems with era as well as some questionable modding. Keep an eye out for it and you'll notice. When gaf was in its prime the community was good and the modding, with the exception of a few, was quality. Good times. Towards the implosion things got toxic and it was common to hear about the hive mind of the site. So when era was formed I was hoping it would be a return to a more friendly community like we once had but instead this place often feels closer to the later years of gaf with it's own growing hive mind and it's own twist. Who knows maybe this is all due to the way the internet has become more toxic in general but I hope this site improves as it grows instead of ending up like the old one.
I got banned in a J K Rowling thread. I'm one of the most liberal people I know, but not liberal enough to join a discourse on here with a different point of view. I stay away from anything to do with equality/freedom of speech etc. now, despite holding feminist views myself.
I got banned in a J K Rowling thread. I'm one of the most liberal people I know, but not liberal enough to join a discourse on here with a different point of view. I stay away from anything to do with equality/freedom of speech etc. now, despite holding feminist views myself.
I suppose what made me post originally was this trend right now of people telling studios which race/gender they need to cast someone as, for no other reason than increasing representation of minorities. I'm not saying it's a bad thing per se, but something about it from an artist's point of view doesn't sit right with me. If a white man want's to write a story/movie featuring exclusively white people, he shouldn't be stopped from doing so.
What we need to work on instead is making sure we have a much broader representation in the people actually making/writing these things. Studio execs also need to step up, and there are already encouraging signs happening on that front recently.
In this case, JK Rowling chose to do what she did and she should be criticised - absolutely - but again, it was her character to write and her story to change. That said, I don't have a huge problem with the reasons people are unhappy with the character, and I agree with the sentiment, more or less.
This goes both ways.Closing yourself off to those subjects completely instead of actually learning or even attempting to listen to others is not a failure of the forum or the moderators, but with this feeling that a lot of you have that you just can't be wrong.
Pretty easy to say as the conductor.None. These "purity test" whining posts in here are hilarious.
This resonates with my experience here. You never know when some mod or mod-protected member has a bad day and is out for blood because a topic is PERSONAL to them, so it's best to not even participate.Certain political and social topics in which you're expected to echo the one allowed opinion/point of view.
Trying to have a discussion is not viable in those. You'll get multiple replies either attacking you, calling you an idiot or sarcastically comparing your posts to alt righter speak.
I appreciate it when rational people can disagree in a respectable fashion and not try to look beyond your words for some "hidden agenda".
Since moderation allows this kind of behavior, certain threads will always be 100% one sided. In those threads if my opinion doesn't fall in line I just refrain from posting.
It's a shame it has to be this way. And it's only gotten worse with time.
Which part of the thread title confused you
hmm...You were banned because you implied that inclusion is just "the trend" rather than something that should be done or should be sought after. You even said white directors should be able to make all white movies without any issues if they wanted to. I would say you earned that ban to be honest. And if you didn't mean those things the way they sounded then you probably should have been a bit more explicit in your meaning given the sensitive nature of the topic that you were addressing.
The post in question in case others are curious.
This goes both ways.
I have been wrong before and I'm sure I'm still wrong on multiple things. I learn by reading, listening and participating in discussions. But what is being promoted here is to not share your differing opinion regardless of how respectfully presented because you'll be mocked and possibly even banned for it.
I don't want to resort to calling the forum a hivemind. Nothing will be achieved if each side of any discussion resorted to blanket terms, especially since a few users don't represent the opinion of the thousands of others on here regardless of how some are clearly much more active in specific topics.
You mean like someone like yourself, who tried to claim that I singled out white people when I stated "Whether or not black people should or shouldn't say nigga is a discussion that only black people get to be a part of." and I asked you to quote me and you dropped it? So I should listen to garbage like that? What am I a conductor of exactly?Pretty easy to say as the conductor.
Is it that hard to just listen? If people are telling you they feel a certain way and are reticent to post, then why not try to understand why instead of simply dismissing them as a closet alt-right asshole?
Pretty easy to say as the conductor.
Is it that hard to just listen? If people are telling you they feel a certain way and are reticent to post, then why not try to understand why instead of simply dismissing them as a closet alt-right asshole?
That's all I'm getting from this thread as well smfh.Wow there are alot of people partially showing their ass in this thread with the things they are worried about. It's kind of amazing to watch.
Especially those about "purity tests" or "not liberal enough". As long as you don't have a shit opinion or view then there is nothing to worry about. The fact that you are worried says alot though.
Fighting games being difficult/hard/unfair to learn and/or get good at. I always get suckered into posting in them though.
Politics mostly. Even if I'm liberal I oftentimes on here am not liberal enough for some ppl and I get tired of dealing with that
None. These "purity test" whining posts in here are hilarious.
Certain political and social topics in which you're expected to echo the one allowed opinion/point of view.
Trying to have a discussion is not viable in those. You'll get multiple replies either attacking you, calling you an idiot or sarcastically comparing your posts to alt righter speak.
I appreciate it when rational people can disagree in a respectable fashion and not try to look beyond your words for some "hidden agenda".
Since moderation allows this kind of behavior, certain threads will always be 100% one sided. In those threads if my opinion doesn't fall in line I just refrain from posting.
It's a shame it has to be this way. And it's only gotten worse with time.