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This is still the best villain entrance to date, RIP Smallville and The WB
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I only dabbled with the show after the move to Metropolic, but I fully dropped it when Sad Doomsday showed up
This doesn't hold a candle to Jimmy Olsen being killed by Doomsday, only to reveal AT HIS FUNERAL that he had a kid brother named Jimmy Olsen who was the REAL Jimmy Olsen.
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His human side was always crying about something, you eventually looked forward to his deathsYou mean PartyCity Doomsday.
Yes, this is exactly where I dropped the show. I distinctly remembered that the last thing I saw was Clark flying off a dam or some shit.
You mean PartyCity Doomsday.
They spent an entire season building up to Clark fighting Doomsday and the fight lasts all of two minutes where Clark just flies him into an underground bunker.
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A lot of fights end with just shoving the villain. The bug kid got shoved into the hole, Bizarro got pushed into space, Jonthan Taylor Thomas got pushed over a railing, etc
I hesitate to say this show has aged horribly because I remember laughing at the bad CGI back in 2003.
Oh man did that hurt. Those first CW years were rough. The budget took a real hit in the transition.You mean PartyCity Doomsday.
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He got the power to duplicate, and used it to do extra homework. Smallville villains never overreached, you have to give them that
Is there a site or something that just documents all the dumb shit from Smallville? Wasn't Lana a Kryptonite Ninja Witch at one point?
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If there isn't there should be. Like the later season when budget got tight and they did a hour long product placement for chewing gum
That's the only thing I remember about the show and I didnt even watch the it. That and the fact kryptonite explains way too much.
I thought that happened in a super early season. Was that the season when they introduced Darkseid and he was "possessing people" (aka too expensive to film)
So good they used it in Elseworlds.
In all fairness, comic Darkseid exists in a separate universe and only manifests by possessing hosts who have access to a fraction of his true power.
It's just that in the comics, his avatars change to look like Darkseid.
I'll lose my damn mind if they get Welling and Rosenbaum to do the big Crisis crossover next fall.
There's like zero chance of getting Welling, I'll tell you that for free. He flat out refused to ever wear the actual suit which is why they don't even have him in it in the finale.
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Yeah, that whole plot where Lana becomes a witch was brilliant (I'm being sarcastic).
The longer the show went on the worst it got.
But at its peak it was pretty great.
I dunno man, I think they might shoot for the moon with this. I'm aware of the suit issues but Welling has actually said recently that he'd be willing to appear on The Flash if they asked him to. He's been embracing the fandom a bit more recently as well, doing more convention stuff with Rosenbaum.
I can't comment on the suit because, let's be honest, he probably wouldn't wear it. But I fully believe they're going to get both of them to appear in Crisis next year.
I actually think Justin Hartley would be the hardest one to get back at this point thanks to This is Us.
Seasons 9 and 10 of Smallville were considerably better than 5-7 (8 was inspired but quite flawed). The unfortunate lack of budget in the latter seasons was largely superseded by its ambition. Plus, Lana's absence improved the series immensely.
Season 11 was kinda neat, Clark also got the Speed Force and became a Green Lantern
He should've kept both ahahahaha
He should've kept both ahahahaha
The seasons where Lex and Lionard were the focus. Seeing Lex being a total bro and naive and dense clark being dumb and turning lex evil himself because of it was something else.
I've watched all of Smallville back in the day, I was late to the party but binged it all. It sure has it's highs and lows but it was consistently fun to watch, it had a better green arrow too.
I still won't forgive them for that lame ass series finale though, damn it Welling and your dumb pride and that suit.
PS: Somebody Saaaaave meeeeeeeee
This was the last episode of that show that I watched. I still feel no impetus to find out what happens after that.
I can't say I agree with this overall. Smallville was a very up and down series.
Seasons 1-3: Generally got better as it went on, introducing more season long arcs and clearly having a bigger budget than it did in the final seasons.
Season 4: The witch season. Likely the second worst season of the show. Epic finale though.
Season 5: This is near the top of the series for me. It definitely felt like they rejuvenated the show a bit. The overall arc was stronger, they finally gave us a true rift between Clark and Lex, a snazzy new intro and maybe the best episode of the series where Jonathan dies.
Seasons 6-7: I thought 6 was a step back but still had some solid stuff. The Lana/Lex stuff was insane though. S7 is the worst season of the show, hands down. They mishandled Supergirl completely, the Lana stuff was horrendous, the writer's strike clearly forced them to rush through what should have been an epic final arc for Lex, etc.
Oh, and they finally brought Pete back for the first and last time, only to give him the hilariously bad Stride gum episode, which is one of the worst in the series. With Rosenbaum leaving, it honestly felt like it was time to end the show. I will say that the episode where Lex finally makes that turn and kills Lionel was very well done.
Seasons 8-10: Rosenbaum leaving actually forced the writers to try something different and I think it largely worked. They somehow made the Doomsday thing kind of work, other than the disappointing finale and horrendous Jimmy Olsen plot twist. Losing Lex, Lana and Kara but bringing Green Arrow in full time along with Tess was a bit of fresh air.
Season 9, with Callum Blue as Zod, honestly might have been the best season of the show. Blue was great and they were clearly full comic book at this point. Easily the best season-long arc they've done. The final season wasn't as good and the Darkseid arc was handled poorly. Still a solid ending though.
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The first two seasons were always the strongest and have mostly held up.
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Clark was a bad friend.
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I binged most of this show last year, but I kind of lost interest around season 9 - I guess knowing there was gonna be a whole season of "The Blur calls Lois at that one payphone and there's gonna be a whole Clark-Lois-The Blur love triangle" dampened my mood. I wonder how well this show would have been received if it wasn't explicitly a Superman property. Like can you imagine any other show spending seven and half seasons building up the two main character's Epic Romance, but then being like "just kidding this other woman is the End Game"
I don't know what they were trying to do with Jor El because he's all over the place, but then they also didn't know what they were doing with Lex because he spins wildly from "I'm literally the nicest person on this show" to "I'm have bad tendencies because of my abusive upbringing" to "I'm actually just pure evil and my father's abuse was him trying to stop me" and it's all just super unearned.
And speaking of unearned: Let's talk about Martha Kent's political career. Jonathan dies on election night, and the Governor offers her his seat even though he wasn't even sworn in. Then that US senator dies and the Governor is like "Lol you should go to Washington" and she does. She has never won an election, but she did hobnob with Metropolis's richest of the rich when she was pseudo-dating Lionel. It's corruption is what it is.
I skipped the Native American episode because I super wasn't in the mood for a "Magical Native Americans Who Can Turn Into Wolves Try To Protect Their Sacred Lands From Corporations" story, but then it turned out that episode introduced the Magical Prophecy Cave that was the actual foundation for like half the show. Oops!
The Witch season owns because everyone is incredibly chill about Lana being possessed by a Witch, half the conversations between Dean from Supernatural and Doctor Quinn from Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman don't make any sense because they're working together, the Witch depossessing Lana doesn't make sense because Dean is still alive at that point, and in the following season no one ever acknowledges that Dean died in the Kent's house during the Meteor Apocalypse. It also has that episode where Clark and Lana borrow Lionel's jet to follow Dean and Lex to China, as teenagers from a rural Kansas town do, and then The Witch pops out and there's a brief Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon fight between Lana and Clark.
My favorite part of this season was the revelation that Lionel was part of a secret society that knew about the Kryptonian coming and that he has literally always known that Clark was The Traveler, which retroactively makes everything that Lionel does in the first half of the season completely nonsensical.
(I think that really ill-advised illegal immigration episode was somewhere in one of these two seasons - remember the one with a young Tyler Posey, and the Meteor Freak Farmer who was burying people alive, and it's like, and Martha being all "I have to turn this kid in because he's here illegally I'm a Senator" and Clark is all "Um I was literally an illegal immigrant" and then Martha is all "Oh you right we should make exceptions for exceptional youths" and I'm over here like "Newsflash Martha all youths are exceptional and don't deserve to be deported!"
that finale fucking owned
I haven't gotten back there yet, but I remember watching it when it actually aired and being really confused as to why Smallville was an in-universe comic and also why Clark and Lois were pretending not to be dating in the epilogue.
I don't know what they were trying to do with Jor El because he's all over the place, but then they also didn't know what they were doing with Lex because he spins wildly from "I'm literally the nicest person on this show" to "I'm have bad tendencies because of my abusive upbringing" to "I'm actually just pure evil and my father's abuse was him trying to stop me" and it's all just super unearned.
And speaking of unearned: Let's talk about Martha Kent's political career. Jonathan dies on election night, and the Governor offers her his seat even though he wasn't even sworn in. Then that US senator dies and the Governor is like "Lol you should go to Washington" and she does. She has never won an election, but she did hobnob with Metropolis's richest of the rich when she was pseudo-dating Lionel. It's corruption is what it is.
I skipped the Native American episode because I super wasn't in the mood for a "Magical Native Americans Who Can Turn Into Wolves Try To Protect Their Sacred Lands From Corporations" story, but then it turned out that episode introduced the Magical Prophecy Cave that was the actual foundation for like half the show. Oops!
The Witch season owns because everyone is incredibly chill about Lana being possessed by a Witch, half the conversations between Dean from Supernatural and Doctor Quinn from Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman don't make any sense because they're working together, the Witch depossessing Lana doesn't make sense because Dean is still alive at that point, and in the following season no one ever acknowledges that Dean died in the Kent's house during the Meteor Apocalypse. It also has that episode where Clark and Lana borrow Lionel's jet to follow Dean and Lex to China, as teenagers from a rural Kansas town do, and then The Witch pops out and there's a brief Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon fight between Lana and Clark.
My favorite part of this season was the revelation that Lionel was part of a secret society that knew about the Kryptonian coming and that he has literally always known that Clark was The Traveler, which retroactively makes everything that Lionel does in the first half of the season completely nonsensical.
(I think that really ill-advised illegal immigration episode was somewhere in one of these two seasons - remember the one with a young Tyler Posey, and the Meteor Freak Farmer who was burying people alive, and it's like, and Martha being all "I have to turn this kid in because he's here illegally I'm a Senator" and Clark is all "Um I was literally an illegal immigrant" and then Martha is all "Oh you right we should make exceptions for exceptional youths" and I'm over here like "Newsflash Martha all youths are exceptional and don't deserve to be deported!"
that finale fucking owned
I haven't gotten back there yet, but I remember watching it when it actually aired and being really confused as to why Smallville was an in-universe comic and also why Clark and Lois were pretending not to be dating in the epilogue.