I'd also add an undeniable hatred of the poor combined with a lust for the rich
I'd also add an undeniable hatred of the poor combined with a lust for the rich
You're really calling billions of people raised steeped in a variety of religions 'shitty human beings'?
Lincoln Project is cutting ads against Susan Collins, Cory Gardner, Martha McSally, Joni Ernst and Thom Tills. These dastardly do rights are in effect contributing to flip the Senate towards the Democrats. So clearly, they go further than their dislike of Trump. They are Republican individuals who have contempt with where the party has gone.
America is going to have two-parties. If we have to deal with Romney and Kasich individuals, I'll certainly have a smile on my face.
Mitt Romney would send women back to the back alleys
The long term goal should be the Dems become the Centre party and are opposed by a left wing party.
Not let's celebrate Neo cons and shit
Very elegantly stated. If we are to make true progress, reshaping the opposing party to a position of sanity is part of that progress. There will be two parties for the foreseeable future, and the Overton Window must shift to achieve lasting change.
Conservative => racism, bigotry, prejudice
It's like this is an extension of the weird purity obsession some people have.
"If someone I don't like contributed to a victory, then it's corrupted and worthless."
TLP is operating completely separately from the Biden campaign, so you don't have to worry. Nobody is beholden to them. It's consequence-free friendly fire between GOP factions.
Its almost like you have pre judged conservatives.I'd also add an undeniable hatred of the poor combined with a lust for the rich
Conservative is literally a political ideology.
If wishes were horses.Mitt Romney would send women back to the back alleys
The long term goal should be the Dems become the Centre party and are opposed by a left wing party.
Not let's celebrate Neo cons and shit
Both examples of items that are deeply engrained in religions across the world and further intertwined with those from non-secular backgrounds.Socially conservative means things like you don't agree that women should have control over their bodies or that lgbtq people don't deserve equal rights. If your religion tells you that a woman shouldn't have control over their body or that lgbtq people are a stain on humanity or don't deserve to be married, then yes that's pretty shitty.
It's amazing how you managed to interpret my post to mean the opposite of what it actually meant because you were so excited to puke out that rant. Why don't you reread it and explain to me how it means I want the Dems to be filled with Bush era neocons.Yeah man the people not wanting them Dems to be filled with Bush era neocons are just maniacally obsessed with purity and not as any rational human might be concerned with the prospect of these people essentially seizing most of the party levers as the fruition of the slope of perpetually ceding political ground to the right over generations including a hyper-focus on electoralism which in effect serves to conveniently sequester and defang the political impetus that might otherwise go into direct action (which we are literally seeing rn).
Y'all are maybe just too used to being the dominant cultural narrative and maybe the constant drip feed of corporate media suffusing your cultural consciousness, concealing a lot of egregious stuff that the state does and setting the hurdles so low you could effectively cross them without even picking up your feet. More than purity it's just the serious attempted effort to be ideologically consistent lol.
If wishes were horses.
Conservatism isn't going to just disappear. I would rather the opposition party not fall into the hands of tea parties for progress to be stalled for the betterment of the country.
Both examples of items that are deeply engrained in religions across the world and further intertwined with those from non-secular backgrounds.
I mean, the Democratic nominee is a deeply religious Catholic. Who has supported abortion rights at the cost of his faith/religion (how many times has he been refused the Sacrements)? There's a deeper conversation about religion behind this that I'm not going to entertain, but I don't necessarily assume all conservatives are shitty people simply because of what they were raised to believe.
I strongly disagree with them but also will not generalize all religious people / socially conservative people as shitty individuals.
Have you read the Republican platform?
You're really calling billions of people raised steeped in a variety of religions 'shitty human beings'?
When, in the last half-century, have conservatives not supported the most toxic, hateful, and damaging positions and policies? When were they, as a group, on the right side of history regarding economics, foreign policy, science, education, minority rights and women's rights, the LGBTQ+ community, etc.
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The modern Republicans have never been sane.... Every single one of their Presidents have been monsters... and their nominees too
Well the Republicans (Trumps version of it), one could argue, are not really conservatives. Its some kind of weird unholy alliance of the Religious Right, anti Government viewpoints.
I don't agree with many of his policies and world views, but George H. W. Bush was certainly sane, and his failings were shared by most of the democrats of the time if we effort not to rewrite history. Returning the opposition party to actual intellectual conservatives would be a massive victory for progress. That doesn't mean we stop at neocons, just that it's a necessary step.
...Did we forget the atrocities George W Bush committed? If you are trying to go "Well the democrats were guilty too", uh no shit that's why Democrats also need to be called out for their shitty decisions.
Where was I talking about Republicans?Have you read the Republican platform?
Stopping gay marriage
Making sure companies can fire people cause they are LGBTQ
Limiting birth control
Limiting voting access
Limiting refugee and asylum cases
Limiting permanent immigration for work so we can pack the workers up and ship them back when not needed
Empowering law enforcement agencies that are disproportionately going after minorities
This is just some of the stuff they are willing to put forward and stand by.
Well the Republicans (Trumps version of it), one could argue, are not really conservatives. Its some kind of weird unholy alliance of the Religious Right, anti Government viewpoints.
Trump is giving the Religious Right everything they wanted politically (mainly Judges) and he appeals to all the people that are so sick of the status quo of government.
The US has always been a bit weird. The elected politicians always seem to be more right than the actual population. This is probably due to how election finances are allowed.
So this election may be a one and done for voting Trump out. But after that happens, all these groups still exist and how the Republicans rebound will be interesting.
It's amazing how you managed to interpret my post to mean the opposite of what it actually meant because you were so excited to puke out that rant. Why don't you reread it and explain to me how it means I want the Dems to be filled with Bush era neocons.
I also enjoy how "electoralism" is the new pejorative meme that I'm going to be seeing every 20 seconds. "Those effete liberals who vote, how bourgeois of them."
You'll also have to explain to me about how not minding that Republicans are fighting each other means I want BLM protestors to go home.
I don't agree with many of his policies and world views, but George H. W. Bush was certainly sane, and his failings were shared by most of the democrats of the time if we effort not to rewrite history. Returning the opposition party to actual intellectual conservatives would be a massive victory for progress. That doesn't mean we stop at neocons, just that it's a necessary step.
MCCAMMON: The Bush administration opposed federal funding for abortion and unsuccessfully urged the Supreme Court to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized the procedure nationwide in 1973. But that wasn't always Bush's position, says Jessie Hill, a law professor at Case Western Reserve University.
I don't think going back to killing millions in the middle east is something america should strive forI don't agree with many of his policies and world views, but George H. W. Bush was certainly sane, and his failings were shared by most of the democrats of the time if we effort not to rewrite history. Returning the opposition party to actual intellectual conservatives would be a massive victory for progress. That doesn't mean we stop at neocons, just that it's a necessary step.
Well the Republicans (Trumps version of it), one could argue, are not really conservatives.
...were all of those posts really just building up so you could argue semantics?
No...were all of those posts really just building up so you could argue semantics?
I don't think going back to killing millions in the middle east is something america should strive for
lmao I also missed a letter. Sorry I'm dumb. George HW Bush was despicable but he's no W
"Sane"George H. W. Bush’s Presidency Erased People with AIDS. So Did the Tributes to Him
For many queer people who were adults during the first Bush Presidency, the week of commemorating Bush’s death has brought back the sense of living in a political reality separate from the rest of the country—an invisible one.www.newyorker.com
I mean, technically Nixon.When, in the last half a century, have conservatives not supported the most toxic, hateful, and damaging positions and policies? When were they, as a group, on the right side of history regarding economics, foreign policy, climate change, science in general, minority rights and women's rights, the LGBTQ+ community, etc.
At this point in history, conservative means regressive. At least in the US.
I am well aware of his devastatingly misguided positions and inaction in that area. I accounted for it clearly in my post.
Name one good conservative. Just one.
Still waiting to hear your explanation of how realizing the value of Republicans putting their resources into attacking Trump instead of Biden, without approving of those Republicans ideologically, relates at all to your word salad.Dude, your post didn't mean anything. The criticisms that one makes of their opponent is inherently a part of the political discourse because it's the stuff you think is meaningfully worthy of criticizing them on! This kind of shit is how we tacitly let conservatives set the frame of the discussion and then wonder why they seem to punch above their weight/demographic size w/r/t apparent political influence. What do you think is the result, in our politics, of constantly leaving the door open to the 'good' conservatives who are ultimately seeking to do everything awful that they ever did just quietly and politely behind closed doors? Thinking this shit is good isn't functionally all that different from all but calling Mitt Romney one of the good ones, or whatever other ghoul they;re excited about.
And you're talking pejorative memes when just bandying a vapid term like "purity testing" around. Cool. (Also, read a fucking book or something, ideally not of the kind containing magic or robots).
How are the Trumpian Right not conservative? What do conservatives stand for?
I am well aware of his devastatingly misguided positions and inaction in that area. I accounted for it clearly in my post.