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REVIEWS
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Paste Magazine said:
Season 2 is absolutely packed with action as well as essential world building that adds up to a show that is, once again, incredibly fun to watch and easy to become immersed in.
Empire Magazine said:
More accessible than its complicated first season, Netflix's multi-tentacled fantasy builds on a commanding lead performance from Henry Cavill while leaning into its horror elements to increasingly impressive effect.
AV Club said:
The Witcher's second season is vastly more confident about leaning into the high fantasy and higher stakes of Sapkowski's lore...
Independent said:
In a world where high fantasy needs to take itself seriously in order to be taken seriously, The Witcher just about manages to be something quite rare: fun.
Decider said:
No matter if you've read and played everything or if you're entirely new to this world, you're going to have a blast.
S2 TRAILER


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Witcher S1 15 minute Recap (in chronological order)



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Will Update the thread as we go along
 
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Helix

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alrighty! let's gooooo!

watched the first episode and wow this is already going places with it's dark tones
 

EJS

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Is the recap available on Netflix itself or only YouTube?
 

Adryuu

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Shit and I have to re watch season one still. We only watched it on the old TV and we're going over it again now in 4k HDR starting right now. Can't wait to get to the new season.
 

Foot

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Season 1 was so good, but it's been long enough that I barely remember why!
 

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I'm so happy that Cavill found some success.

Hopefullly he decides to stream some witcher 3 :)
 

Nameless

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Rewatching S1. I was already pretty high on it, but it really is fantastic and while I enjoy most of the cast, they hit home runs on the Geralt and Yen castings. Can't wait to dive into S2 this weekend. Hopefully we won't have to wait 2 years for S3.
 

Tornak

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I've been rewatching Season 1 and I'm very excited for this.

Especially if it's indeed better, which I think will happen just by virtue of not having the weird timeline split and also Ciri and Yennefer's storylines being more connected with Geralt's, because their scenes were ocassionaly comparatively boring. I also hope the budget is a bit higher this time around, as some things looked fantastic, but others were really cheap-looking.

Can't wait to have my boy Jaskier back. Hope it does well to justify such the investment and it gets to adapt all the books.
 

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I just checked. There is a 3 minute recap on Netflix. So not as in depth as the Youtube video.
The 15 minute one is there along with a bunch of other new stuff if you click on "The World of The Witcher".

Making of S2 - 37m
Bestiary Part 1 - 11m
Bestiary Part 2 - 10m
Characters of the Continent - 9m
Season 1 Recap - 15m
Fireplace - 59m 😆

Plus the older ones released last year.
 

misho8723

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Even though I liked the first episode, they again missed the message and theme the original short story was about.. I hoped that they would fix this since S1, but oh well... and I really don't like how many things they are changing - the problem is that the majority of changes are for the worst : Look how they massacred my boy (who saw EP2 knows about whom I'm talking about)
 

Idde

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Just watched the first two episodes, and yeah definitely better than season 1 already. Which I still liked plenty. The different timelines from the first season were refreshing, but this season really has a tighter narrative/streamlined focus. Geralt and Ciri are cool together.

Episode two spoiler.
Eskel died. Huh.
 

Idde

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Even though I liked the first episode, they again missed the message and theme the original short story was about.. I hoped that they would fix this since S1, but oh well... and I really don't like how many things they are changing - the problem is that the majority of changes are for the worst : Look how they massacred my boy (who saw EP2 knows about whom I'm talking about)

What's the theme/message supposed to be? I haven't read the short story.
 

Persephone

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watched the whole thing in a day lmao. started at 8am and just finished. I immediately picked up on some bits where I was like. hmm. book readers will be mad. I haven't got that far in the books but even I know they did Eskel dirty. honestly the first ep was my fave. also Jaskier rly wrote Geralt TWO breakup songs... the power he has...
 

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What's the theme/message supposed to be? I haven't read the short story.

Nivellen and Geralt don't know each other in the short story, Ciri isn't there aswell because originally the story took place many years before Geralt had anything to do with Ciri, we learn from almost the start the reason why Nivellen was cursed (and in the short story he is more bear-like and not wild boar-like in the show), so the reader - aswell Geralt - shouldn't like Nivellen's character but as the story goes on, it is more and more obvious that Nivellen has changed and matured through the years and really regrets his actions when he was young and now treats everyone well and fair.. so the original short story is about redemption, even though the reader (and Geralt) at the start either hate or don't like Nivellen, at the end atleast they saw that he was really changed compared to what he was like in the past - redemption..and in the show his character evolution is "ha, he is a good friend of Geralt, that means he is probably ok", then "well, he did some bad things but they aren't that bad in all honesty" to "what? he raped a priestess? well fuck him alright" .. it went from the original short story's " too quick to judge" to shows "humans are the real monsters" (which is almost repeated in every scene in the show)
What I don't like is that each book short story had a different meaning, moral lesson and theme but the show almost always goes with the only one, again the "humans are the real monsters".. even the elves are in the show victims, even though in the books they landed on the Continent only after dwarves and gnomes who already lived there for houndreds of years and the first thing the elves did was starting many wars against mostly the dwarves (and some other original races on the Continent, which don't exist in the Geralt timeline) and the main reason why elves lost so much power against the humans was the fact that only young elves are fertile and humans started to win against them in numbers because they can more freely reproduce.. only after many years after the humans came to the Continent, they started some wars with the elves
 

bad_carbs

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Watched the whole thing already lol. Just couldn't stop after seeing it was out last night. It was a great season.

Also heads up: There's something after the credits in the final episode. Be sure not to miss it
 

Linus815

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Episode 1 was good. Definitely an improvement compared to S1 in terms of general production values and action. I enjoyed the story too.
I hope it keeps this level.
 

Idde

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Nivellen and Geralt don't know each other in the short story, Ciri isn't there aswell because originally the story took place many years before Geralt had anything to do with Ciri, we learn from almost the start the reason why Nivellen was cursed (and in the short story he is more bear-like and not wild boar-like in the show), so the reader - aswell Geralt - shouldn't like Nivellen's character but as the story goes on, it is more and more obvious that Nivellen has changed and matured through the years and really regrets his actions when he was young and now treats everyone well and fair.. so the original short story is about redemption, even though the reader (and Geralt) at the start either hate or don't like Nivellen, at the end atleast they saw that he was really changed compared to what he was like in the past - redemption..and in the show his character evolution is "ha, he is a good friend of Geralt, that means he is probably ok", then "well, he did some bad things but they aren't that bad in all honesty" to "what? he raped a priestess? well fuck him alright" .. it went from the original short story's " too quick to judge" to shows "humans are the real monsters" (which is almost repeated in every scene in the show)
What I don't like is that each book short story had a different meaning, moral lesson and theme but the show almost always goes with the only one, again the "humans are the real monsters".. even the elves are in the show victims, even though in the books they landed on the Continent only after dwarves and gnomes who already lived there for houndreds of years and the first thing the elves did was starting many wars against mostly the dwarves (and some other original races on the Continent, which don't exist in the Geralt timeline) and the main reason why elves lost so much power against the humans was the fact that only young elves are fertile and humans started to win against them in numbers because they can more freely reproduce.. only after many years after the humans came to the Continent, they started some wars with the elves

Does Nivellen still die in the end at Vereena's hand in the short story?

And yes, I think I would've preferred that as well. As you said, there's not exactly a shortage of 'men are the real monsters' sentiment in the Witcher shows. If this redemption would've been done well it could give some optimism to the Witcher story. Even if it is some bitter sweet optimism. But Geralt always seems like he could use some. And it's not like it wouldn't have worked with Ciri present. They could've still ended up at Nivellens place after not trusting the village. The change doesn't really seem for the better.

Though perhaps Geralt wouldn't stay with Ciri at a place he doesn't trust.

Not to mention the fact that 'old friend has something to hide, and we just have to wait for the revelation' isn't exactly new, and you could see the twist coming from miles away.
 

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watched the whole thing in a day lmao. started at 8am and just finished. I immediately picked up on some bits where I was like. hmm. book readers will be mad. I haven't got that far in the books but even I know they did Eskel dirty. honestly the first ep was my fave. also Jaskier rly wrote Geralt TWO breakup songs... the power he has...
Right? Was Jaskier that gay for Geralt in the books or the games? I remember him being a serious womanizer lol. Wasn't there a whole Witcher 3 quest about that?

Ep. 4 was super on the nose about Jaskier being "different," and also madly in love with Geralt. Felt like a red carpet was being rolled out for the shippers.

I don't hate it but it was so noticeable. Also he's kind of barking up the wrong tree. But who knows, maybe they'll reunite and Geralt will cocktease him with some not entirely unwelcoming gesture, throwing the fandom into utter chaos from which it may never recover.
 
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IronRinn

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So excited to jump back into this series. I really enjoyed the first season, despite the issues it had.
 

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damn someone's already watched the whole thing???😮
 

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Even though I liked the first episode, they again missed the message and theme the original short story was about.. I hoped that they would fix this since S1, but oh well... and I really don't like how many things they are changing - the problem is that the majority of changes are for the worst : Look how they massacred my boy (who saw EP2 knows about whom I'm talking about)

Yeah absolutely. This is what I had the biggest problem with in s1, did the books really translate _that_ badly? Cause they managed to mangle the point of every single short story in s2 and this so far looks no different.
 

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First two episodes were excellent. They seem to have thrown all the money at this.
 

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Does Nivellen still die in the end at Vereena's hand in the short story?

You remember it wrong, that never happened in the short story.
I had to go and fish out the book from the bookshelf cause you made me doubt for a hot second, but no. The ending is same as in the TV show, albeit the framing and the point is quite different.
 

Idde

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You remember it wrong, that never happened in the short story.
I had to go and fish out the book from the bookshelf cause you made me doubt for a hot second, but no. The ending is same as in the TV show, albeit the framing and the point is quite different.

Wow, major brainfart. Don't know how that happened. yeah, Vereena is the one who dies. Not Nivellen. Does that mean he survives in the story, but without his bruxa lover? That seems sort of okay
 

John Dunbar

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question about the first episode:

did the pig man tell the truth when he said he killed the servants, or were they killed by the monster lady? i guess he was, since i would think they would have escaped when they saw him.
 

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Wow, major brainfart. Don't know how that happened. yeah, Vereena is the one who dies. Not Nivellen. Does that mean he survives in the story, but without his bruxa lover? That seems sort of okay

Yeah the show episode and the short story are the same with respect of what happens (except for Ciri being present in the show, obviously, and some other stuff like Nivellen and Geralt being old friends), but the why and what the moral is are different, I found. YMMV, but I felt like they missed the point.
 

Persephone

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also was the Yennefer (late season spoilers) sacrificing Ciri stuff in the books. bc that was uhhh fucked up
 

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question about the first episode:

did the pig man tell the truth when he said he killed the servants, or were they killed by the monster lady? i guess he was, since i would think they would have escaped when they saw him.
they were killed by the monster lady I think, at least that's what I understood at the end. Might be wrong though.
 

kai3345

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Season 1 was boring so I bailed 4 episodes in, but it sounds like this one might be much better. You think it'd be okay to jump in without having seen all of S1?
 

shadow_shogun

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watched the whole thing in a day lmao. started at 8am and just finished. I immediately picked up on some bits where I was like. hmm. book readers will be mad. I haven't got that far in the books but even I know they did Eskel dirty. honestly the first ep was my fave. also Jaskier rly wrote Geralt TWO breakup songs... the power he has...
I'm disappointed TBF. I honestly don't get why they did Eskel dirty, one of the other nameless Witchers would've been much better for the jobber role.
Season 1 was boring so I bailed 4 episodes in, but it sounds like this one might be much better. You think it'd be okay to jump in without having seen all of S1?
I'd suggest watching at least watch the last 2 episodes of S1 before diving into S2.
also was the Yennefer (late season spoilers) sacrificing Ciri stuff in the books. bc that was uhhh fucked up
I don't know the context surrounding the the episode you're speaking of but that scenario never happened in the books. The show is pretty much doing it's own thing at this point considering all the vast changes they've carried out.
Edit: Got context, this certainly did not happen.
 
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Persephone

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I don't the context surrounding the the episode you're speaking of but that scenario never happened in the books. The show is pretty much doing it's own thing at this point considering all the vast changes they've carried out.

hm. that was a VERY WEIRD choice then. it made Yennefer really unlikable (to me at least) after I was loving her for the first 5 eps.