The Verge: The Xbox Series X is basically a PC
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In the sense that PC gets all Xbox games, and that it kinda looks like a PC? Sure, I guess.
But saying that it's basically a PC is incorrect since you can upgrade your PC parts whenever you want, and PCs are for a lot of things, not just games and movies.
Either way, gaming journalism is at an all-time low these days. The Verge doesn't know what a PC is.
But saying that it's basically a PC is incorrect since you can upgrade your PC parts whenever you want, and PCs are for a lot of things, not just games and movies.
Either way, gaming journalism is at an all-time low these days. The Verge doesn't know what a PC is.
What do you mean? They published a famous PC building video last year so they do know a thing or two about PCs!
Nvidia's 30xx series going to 7nm and releasing before the next gen consoles will far eclipse what is possible on a 2080Ti.
Also given most GPUs sold are low to mid range, I'd argue graphics isn't actually the main reason most PC gamers are PC gamers.
Basically, it'll just be like every console generation.
I'm in a similar boat; but I figure when I add 5 years of Xbox Live to the cost of the console, I'm better off waiting a year or a little more for the next generation of video cards and grabbing an GTX xx70 rather than a current xx80 for less money. That way I keep the benefit of mods/cheap PC games and it seems all Xbox first party games are coming to PC from now on. If anything PS5+PC is the more attractive option to me than buying into the Xbox ecosystem at this point.
That's not why most PC gamers are PC gamers. We like control over our hardware and software and this console doesn't offer that.
For real. The Verge is the last site anyone should trust when it comes to PC gaming anything.
Ive been using my new steam controller to control my PC the last few weeks. My PC is a home console now.
Reasons to be a PC gamer:
1. Graphics
2. Mods
3. Unique titles and genres (Total War, Flight Simulator etc)
4. Backwards compatibility
5. 100,000 games
I said most PC gamers, not all. The ones I personally know either want the best possible graphics, or want VR, or want mods. Or piracy. And rarely a game not available on console (and these days even indie games hit consoles). If this gives the best possible graphics without having to buy a $1000 GPU, that's going to solve the main reason for most people.
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I love how most people didn't bother to read the OP (typical). I believe we really need to think about how much we are willing to pay for PC's obvious advantages. We live in the era of $1000+ GPUs after all.
Consoles have always been gimped PCs. They will continue to be gimped PCs. I'm not fond of current gpu prices, but I would rather spend the money on a PC than the consoles.
Larger selection of games, better performance n presentation, and more flexibility all around.
Larger selection of games, better performance n presentation, and more flexibility all around.
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That may be true for your particular circle but I do not believe that it is in any way representative of the whole.
I think its very dependent on who one talks to.
People I know like PC due to 3 things, variety of games, discord and free online. Where you really don't need to worry about upgrading with a $1000 GPU since graphical settings can be adjusted to run on GPUs from a few years ago and they don't really care if its the highest of high fidelity experiences
I paid 40 extra a year on console for the pleasure of playing online games. Over 6 years that's another 240 dollars. PCs starting to look better and better. And now Nintendo is charging me 20 dollars a year just to backup a save. Somewhere along the line, console gaming lost the plot.
The way i prefer playing video games is superior to the way you prefer playing video games!!!!!!!!!
Most PC gamers do not have top of the line hardware that can max out games. This is fact.
People play on PC for many different reasons, graphics being one of many. I doubt the new Xbox (or PlayStation) can address most of those reasons.
I haven't been in the loop of gaming pc's in a long long time, but I remember how in the early 2000's there were companies trying to cram gaming pc components into tiny micro cases, this reminds me of those so much. Is that still done nowadays?
An IPC
It's impenetrable
Yep, very much so. Some super sexy all aluminium cases costing hundreds even. It's a small form factor art form now.
It's impenetrable
Yep, very much so. Some super sexy all aluminium cases costing hundreds even. It's a small form factor art form now.
It is still wrong, just check steam's or twitch's most popular games.
Would you instantly buy a pre-built PC with Windows 10 on it? Why or why not?
It is fact. But most do have higher end hardware than the consoles, even at launch of new generations. I know my friends all play games on PC primarily for the graphics. As do I (and for VR). This is the first time you'd have to buy an $1100 GPU to out-power a game console at launch (if the rumors of the Xbox Series X power are true).
If the XBSeriesX could run W10 and cost under $600 with a smallish form factor and power that is rumored to be at least mid-tier. With MS backed 'Surface '-like build quality.
I honestly wouldn't mind it lol. But I'm partial to custom builds so wouldn't end up getting it...
Because a 400-500 prebuilt pc is nowhere near the specs of the new Xbox.
Yeah but that would be monumentally stupid. The current GPUs will be able to hang for a while, especially with cross-gen games being a thing for a while. Wait a year or so and powerful gpus will be affordable.
And the broader point being that power is only one small facet of why people choose PC. The Xbox being more powerful than most gpus for a few months won't change that.
It really depends on how you game. If you don't use mods or aren't into VR, it's very compelling. I agree.
Unfortunately, those two things are mostly what I do.
It'd be cool if AMD has finally reached a point where they can begin shipping super APUs for the enthusiast market. Because I wouldn't mind a very small, water cooled APU that could do 12TF. That's like 2X the performance of my 1070 and with the way the market has shaped out, I'd be more than happy with those specs.
But my point is the one you made: most people don't have top of the line hardware. So the Xbox won't be more powerful than most user GPUs for just a few months, but likely at least a couple years, unless the price of GPUs falls back into more reasonable ranges very damn quick. I know I'm not planning on upgrading from my 1080ti anytime soon.
This is a bad take.
The PC is not just the hardware you run games on, it is an open platform for productive and entertainment.
The current gen of consoles also use PC parts, but they are not PCs.
All this is the result of the XSX sort of looking like a PC tower at the intial reveal. It is so thoughtless.
The PC is not just the hardware you run games on, it is an open platform for productive and entertainment.
The current gen of consoles also use PC parts, but they are not PCs.
All this is the result of the XSX sort of looking like a PC tower at the intial reveal. It is so thoughtless.
