The Mandalorian - Season 2 |OT| Wherever I go, he goes [SPOILERS ON EPISODE DROP]

[HustleBun]

Watching tons of live-reactions right now. Everyone thinks Luke looks amazing.

...until his mouth moves.

Outside of the weird animation, this was a fantastic episode. I'm broke my "stay away from Star Wars threads" rule to just share in joy that I'm sure we're all feeling. Favreau and Filoni have done such an incredible job with this show. I'm here for Star Wars as a tv franchise.

Was not expecting to cry but damn it, they got me.

I almost kind of hope that was the series finale.

 

[LordValhalla]

I really, really liked this show more when every single episode wasn't setting up a spin-off. It's exactly what I DON'T want from Star Wars, now. An entire galaxy that just has ~20 people in it, recycled over and over.

'member that one character? Member them? They're back! They say stuff and have further adventures!

THE MANDALORIAN
*flute sounds*

I'm a fan. It's a thrill and it made me smile to see Luke and R2 back. It's fun. But it has turned The Mandalorian into literally the thing I did not want it to be and the reason I dug it to begin with. New characters, new planets, new cantinas. Low-powered adventures in a galaxy far, far away. That concept was SO fun. Now we're miles away from it.

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REMEMBER BIB FORTUNA?! HE'S BACK!!!
oh... no he ded.

There is a place for stuff like that, fan service and all, but I do agree that the "Skywalker Trilogy" shouldn't bleed into the new expanded universe.
I liked that Luke showed up, said 2 lines, and then peaced out. That was the end of the Grogu/Din arc. Grogu is off to be a Jedi and Din now has to figure out what to do with the darksaber. Maybe we will check in from time to time and see what he is up to but it seems now that he is a side character (and thats fine). Luke taking him was the best way to do that and sure it leaned hard into the fan service, but it wasn't bad. It was handled well.
Gotta think that there are still plenty of people, like my wife, who really like star wars and are gonna geek out over seeing luke in the mandalorian, compared to those of us like me who geeked out over seeing Bib Fortuna.
Luke popped in and then left. It wasn't like he said "oh and grogu said his last name is acutally skywalker, this is my son I had with Yaddle" (looking at you TRS)

 

[OneTrueJack]

What do you mean? The Jedi train these kids since they're toddlers.

Remember how they said Anakin was too old to train even though he was, like, 9?

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Which never made any sense to me. Their toddlers, what on Earth are they supposed to be thought?

And that's before remembering that both Luke and Rey were both way older when they began their Jedi journeys, and they both turned out fine.

 

[Halbrand]

I know a lot of you might think this idea is too fanservicey and I get it but I think they need to get on with doing a slightly younger live action Luke series with Mark. If only because he's not getting any younger. The opportunity is now.

 

[Slaythe]

I am happy we got this kind of shots.

What a time.

I know a lot of you might think this idea is too fanservicey and I get it but I think they need to get on with doing a slightly younger live action Luke series with Mark. If only because he's not getting any younger. The opportunity is now.

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No they can't.

This is a one off thing to conclude this "Mandalorian" book which has given new life to disney Star Wars, and hand it over to the OG boy.

If they were to make a Luke show they'd get Sebastian Stan.

De-aging Mark is very hard.

De-aging Hayden is piss easy since all they have to do is alter his face a little, most of which can be done with make up and a little digital touch up, while Mark demands a full CGI replacement.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Which never made any sense to me. Their toddlers, what on Earth are they supposed to be thought?

And that's before remembering that both Luke and Rey were both way older when they began their Jedi journeys, and they both turned out fine.

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Jedi Order rules are idiotic. I assume they want them young because apparently having an emotional connection to anyone is grounds for disqualification from Jedi training, so they gotta snatch them before they get too attached to their parents.

 

[FaceHugger]

I know a lot of you might think this idea is too fanservicey and I get it but I think they need to get on with doing a slightly younger live action Luke series with Mark. If only because he's not getting any younger. The opportunity is now.

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They kind of have to go full fan service to fix things. TLJ was an objectively terrible and lazily written movie that dead ended their mainline brand. They're slowly fixing it now outside of the movies in Disney+. It's going to take a few more years but stuff like this is what they're forced to do outside of proper feature length films now.

As for Hamill in a feature length film, my guess is "no". I'd like to be proven wrong there but I am just not seeing it.

 

[ErrorJustin]

I liked that Luke showed up, said 2 lines, and then peaced out. That was the end of the Grogu/Din arc. Grogu is off to be a Jedi and Din now has to figure out what to do with the darksaber. Maybe we will check in from time to time and see what he is up to but it seems now that he is a side character (and thats fine). Luke taking him was the best way to do that and sure it leaned hard into the fan service, but it wasn't bad. It was handled well.

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Mando finds him in the show's pilot episode. The two of them together is the entire premise of The Mandalorian.

I really don't think The Madalorian works with Din alone, or with Din + Bo-Katan or someone else.

We obviously know Luke doesn't keep Grogu because of reasons (which is another reason I really dislike this ending -- knowledge of near-future events), so I strongly suspect he'll be back with Mando no later than halfway through Season 3. Either there will be a time jump and Mado will get him back, or events will transpire that makes Luke realize that Grogu isn't safe with him after all, and that he actually DOES deserve to be with his adoptive dad.

Their new quest can be finding out the secrets of his origin + race + home planet. That should last them another ~3 seasons then the show can wrap up and Disney can be happy with the ~15 other SW shows they'll have on the air by then.

 

[Halbrand]

No they can't.

This is a one off thing to conclude this "Mandalorian" book which has given new life to disney Star Wars, and hand it over to the OG boy.

If they were to make a Luke show they'd get Sebastian Stan.

De-aging Mark is very hard.

De-aging Hayden is piss easy since all they have to do is alter his face a little, most of which can be done with make up and a little digital touch up, while Mark demands a full CGI replacement.

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Nah I'm thinking not too far before the sequel trilogy. No need for much de-aging. Mark already looks younger than Luke did in TROS anyway. Just make him look like how he did on Crait.

I'm pretty certain we're getting more young ROTJ era Luke anyway in the Ahsoka series.

 

[Saifu]

De-aging Hayden is piss easy since all they have to do is alter his face a little, most of which can be done with make up and a little digital touch up, while Mark demands a full CGI replacement.

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I would say that Hayden doesn't really need any type of de-aging at all.
Dude pretty much still looks like same as he was in ROTS.
At most, as you said he just need a light touch of make up and he's gold.

 

[Ottaro]

Damn, why was bill burr's character the only one that felt like an actual person this entire show? Also, 8 episodes and the only character arc to speak of is the wafer thin one mando got. I get the pulpy appeal of the show, but I dont at all understand the pedestal it gets put on. There's just no there there.

 

[Lifejumper]

TLJ was an objectively terrible and lazily written movie

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You should look up the word 'objectively' cuz TLJ was a critically acclaimed movie. And imagine saying that about TLJ when TROS is right there 😂

"They kind of have to go full fan service".. uuh what? Its because of comments like this that we got TROS. Pandering to fans who only want a return on their investment in the franchise and not good sensible storytelling.

edit: accusing TLJ of lazy writing while praising Mando is also wild! The main thing holding this show back is weak writing.

 

[Friskykillface]

The only bad thing about the last Jedi was the casino planet and making Finns role a joke :(
My guy Finn has the most potential and it was thrown away

 

[Video Kojima]

You should look up the word 'objectively' cuz TLJ was a critically acclaimed movie. And imagine saying that about TLJ when TROS is right there 😂

"They kind of have to full fan service".. uuh what? Its comments like this is what got us TROS. Fans who only want a return on their investment in the franchise and not good sensible storytelling.

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For a lot of people it's a terrible movie. It has serious flaws.

The only bad thing about the last Jedi was the casino planet and making Finns role a joke :(
My guy Finn has the most potential and it was thrown away

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Thank Rian Johnson for that. As a black person, I find it an offensive movie that rolled back a lot of the progress that TFA had established with the prominence of Finn in the story, and his potential role as a Jedi.

 

[Lifejumper]

For a lot of people it's a terrible movie. It has serious flaws.

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Maybe but that still does not mean its a "objectively terrible movie". Its the kind of comment that ruined discourse surrounding the movie.

 

[Sou Da]

As a black person, I find it an offensive movie

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Should I be mean and point out the TLOU avatar?

TFA had established with the prominence of Finn in the story, and his potential role as a Jedi.

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If TFA actually made him a force user in the script he woulda been one in TLJ, either way it doesn't matter. You don't gotta have the force to mean something in Star Wars.

 

[Video Kojima]

Should I be mean and point out the TLOU avatar?


If TFA actually made him a force user in the script he woulda been one in TLJ, either way it doesn't matter. You don't gotta have the force to mean something in Star Wars.

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I won't be using this avatar for too long, don't worry about it.
TLJ is the most offensive SW movie to me, and merely solidified the garbage that is the sequel trilogy. TFA at least treated Finn with prominence. TLJ feels like someone wanted to roll back the clock on black visibility in Star Wars movies.

 

[Lifejumper]

TFA at least treated Finn with respect

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Didn't JJ make Finn a janitor on Starkiller base? Or am I misremembering things.

edit: and by the way I agree with you that the character of Finn could have been done better. But man TROS did Finn dirty too.

 

[Slaythe]

I'm pretty certain we're getting more young ROTJ era Luke anyway in the Ahsoka series.

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I guarantee you this isn't happening.

if you get anything beyond clone wars cameos it will be Clone Wars flashbacks with Hayden and Ewan to complete the trio.

Hopefully directed by Filoni <3.

 

[Video Kojima]

Didn't JJ make Finn a janitor on Starkiller base? Or am I misremembering things.

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You were too fast. I changed it to prominence before you posted your reply. But you get my point. He went from wielding a lightsaber, fighting off a sith to protect his friend, to running around on horses as a filler character. Don't take it from me, hear what Boyega himself has to say.

I'd also like to know if anyone who quoted me is black, and read their perspective on the matter.

edit: and by the way I agree with you that the character of Finn could have been done better. But man TROS did Finn dirty too.

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I agree that TROS was trash too.

 

[Joeytj]

The complaints about this turning into a "spinoff" machine are not fair, I think. The show itself produced already a bunch of characters that just a year ago were unknowns and are now as beloved, and maybe even more so, than the sequel trilogy characters. Yes, this season we got a lot of characters from the animated series, the books, and now the movies, but mostly as a way to connect the series to the larger universe, and we know we're going to get more series with new characters, like Acolyte, Rangers of the New Republic, and others, that will surely later lead to sequels, and then opportunities for even more new characters.

People shouldn't fear that something new in Star Wars suddenly inspires sequels and spinoffs.


It's funny, cause I remember that one of the problems (or THE main problem) the original writers of The Force Awakens had was that Luke was just too much of a presence in all the drafts of the story they had, and that he overshadowed the new characters. They sort of had that problem again in The Mandalorian, having to ask fans for patience with the new characters and setting but then reward them little by little with things they were familiar with, but they managed to please more fans this time with the introduction of Luke, and in general with the mix of old and new.

 

[Sou Da]

TLJ feels like someone wanted to roll back the clock on black visibility in Star Wars movies.

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oh good lord dude.

 

[wingkongex]

The music just didn't hit for me. Kind of lessened the impact of the whole final sequence.

 

[Halbrand]

I guarantee you this isn't happening.

if you get anything beyond clone wars cameos it will be Clone Wars flashbacks with Hayden and Ewan to complete the trio.

Hopefully directed by Filoni <3.

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Eh I'm absolutely sure Filoni will have them together and talking in the same scene. He's not going to pass up that opportunity. Luke will give her some closure on Anakin. She probably still thinks he died evil.

On another note looks like Cara actually shot part of Pershing's ear off.

 

[studyguy]

I'm by no means any kind of super fan, but if you want to make a more dedicated fan out of someone who has only had a passing interest in the more expansive parts of SW as a whole... That episode and the ending is probably how you do it.

I assume mando ends for a while and it lets other shows get introduced to fill the gap, I get how people might be annoyed at that if they've only ever known SW in it's original sort of content format, but frankly I can't recall the last time I cared this much about SW.

 

[Joeytj]

Damn, why was bill burr's character the only one that felt like an actual person this entire show? Also, 8 episodes and the only character arc to speak of is the wafer thin one mando got. I get the pulpy appeal of the show, but I dont at all understand the pedestal it gets put on. There's just no there there.

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Things can be popular and beloved for different reasons. If anything, Prestige TV has gotten tiresome for a lot of people. It's not surprising, especially during the pandemic, that a show like Mando is winning audiences over more than whatever new Prestige TV show one of the dozens of services are now begging you to binge, take seriously, and recommend to your friends.

It's a pulpy, comforting, well-produced, space-action series. It knows that it is that, fans know it's that, Disney knows it is that, and most critics know it's that, and it meets or exceeds those expectations. No one goes in expecting Season 2 of Succession.

Also, it's not THAT thin. There's enough there, or otherwise people wouldn't have responded that well from the beginning. I know people who have never been that interested in Star Wars saying this is the best thing ever since their preferred other Star Wars movie. So I don't think it's solely popular because it's Star Wars.

 

[Shopolic]

IMDb score of this episode is 9.9! I know these scores aren't that important, but 9.9 is really interesting, specially when you consider that about 18000 users scored there.

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[Halbrand]

For all the talk of fan service it was pretty bold of them to be willing to take the most popular character off the show, at least for a little while. We got the ending I was hoping for but I worried they'd be too scared to do it.

 

[Geode]

IMDb score of this episode is 9.9! I know these scores aren't that important, but 9.9 is really interesting, specially when you consider that about 18000 users scored there.

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Holy crap, that's impressive. It sounds like whatever Disney is doing is working, no matter how many say they hate the fan service on ERA.

 

[takriel]

The music just didn't hit for me. Kind of lessened the impact of the whole final sequence.

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It was quite unspectacular, which I didn't expect from a Star Wars series.

 

[LtOrange]

Absolutely amazing finale. My mind still can't wrap around the fact that I just watched a tv show. I'm so excited for whatever else they have cooking for Disney+.

 

[Lifejumper]

Russo bros up next? (From '18)

 

[Video Kojima]

Russo bros up next? (From '18)

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Oh man.
OH MAN.

Disney:
"The star wars movie directors don't know how to make star wars movies. Let's get the guys who made us billions and billions to make TV episodes that are better."

 

[henhowc]

I'm by no means any kind of super fan, but if you want to make a more dedicated fan out of someone who has only had a passing interest in the more expansive parts of SW as a whole... That episode and the ending is probably how you do it.

I assume mando ends for a while and it lets other shows get introduced to fill the gap, I get how people might be annoyed at that if they've only ever known SW in it's original sort of content format, but frankly I can't recall the last time I cared this much about SW.

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theyve confirmed season 3 for December 2021

 

[T002 Tyrant]

Loved the final episode, if I had any minor criticism is they should have used a deepfake rather than CGI for That being said the face CGI is a billion times better than Rise of Skywalker.

 

[Lotus]

oh good lord dude.

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TLJ discussion is never boring, that's for sure

 

[matrix-cat]

Folks, don't worry, I just ran TLJ through the Objective Star Wars Analysis machine and, the results are in: OBJECTIVELY TERRIBLE.

Phew, feels good to finally put that one to bed. To be honest I don't know why we didn't use the machine sooner!

 

[Team_Feisar]

The music just didn't hit for me. Kind of lessened the impact of the whole final sequence.

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I agree. I liked the score for Luke's entrance in general but it was not adding up to a satisfying crescendo during the final hallway scene.

Cliché but still:

 

[greatgeek]

Folks, don't worry, I just ran TLJ through the Objective Star Wars Analysis machine and, the results are in: OBJECTIVELY TERRIBLE.

Phew, feels good to finally put that one to bed. To be honest I don't know why we didn't use the machine sooner!

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RIGGED MACHINE! OVERTURN!

 

[FaceHugger]

You should look up the word 'objectively' cuz TLJ was a critically acclaimed movie. And imagine saying that about TLJ when TROS is right there 😂

"They kind of have to go full fan service".. uuh what? Its because of comments like this that we got TROS. Pandering to fans who only want a return on their investment in the franchise and not good sensible storytelling.

edit: accusing TLJ of lazy writing while praising Mando is also wild! The main thing holding this show back is weak writing.

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It's happening and will keep happening because that movie was so bad. It's not me doing it but rather Disney. Expect further self correction.

*shrugs*

 

[Kalentan]

What if you're someone who liked The Last Jedi's Luke and also liked seeing him here too? Is such a thing possible?

 

[Halbrand]

What if you're someone who liked The Last Jedi's Luke and also liked seeing him here too? Is such a thing possible?

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That's me and a lot of people I think.

Rian himself liked this tweet.

 

[Thorn]

Was just now able to watch this episode.

And I don't care if it was pure fanservice, the moment I saw that X-Wing I absolutely LOST MY SHIT.

If this makes me a brainless fanboy or what the fuck ever I don't care. That was AWESOME. It feels so good to love Star Wars again.

Oh shit sorry are we talking about TLJ instead?

 

[Video Kojima]

Was just now able to watch this episode.

And I don't care if it was pure fanservice, the moment I saw that X-Wing I absolutely LOST MY SHIT.

If this makes me a brainless fanboy or what the fuck ever I don't care. That was AWESOME. It feels so good to love Star Wars again.

Oh shit sorry are we talking about TLJ instead?

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I hope that one day, we can all stop talking about TLJ.

 

[Shopolic]

What if you're someone who liked The Last Jedi's Luke and also liked seeing him here too? Is such a thing possible?

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It's completely possible. I think The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie after original trilogy and loved Luke in that movie. Also at the same time, really loved Luke in this episode of The Mandalorian.

 

[Slaythe]

Eh I'm absolutely sure Filoni will have them together and talking in the same scene. He's not going to pass up that opportunity. Luke will give her some closure on Anakin. She probably still thinks he died evil.

On another note looks like Cara actually shot part of Pershing's ear off.

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You are aware they are working with Hayden Christensen directly, right ?

What is better for an emotional pay off, Ahsoka getting her closure from Anakin himself since he's literally just there or his son that she never met ... ? That Luke doesn't even know shit about ?

 

[Sadsic]

Knowing that this show is not high art in any way, I think at the popcorn flick level this series exists on, this season was actually really good - id give it like a solid B overall

 

[Kalentan]

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You are aware they are working with Hayden Christensen directly, right ?

What is better for an emotional pay off, Ahsoka getting her closure from Anakin himself since he's literally just there or his son that she never met ... ? That Luke doesn't even know shit about ?

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Well, Ahsoka talking to Luke about all the good times she had with Anakin could be a really touching scene. I'm sure he'd love to learn more about his father before he became Vader.

 

[Bestlaidplans]

Amazing series. Absolute perfection.

 

[Slaythe]

Well, Ahsoka talking to Luke about all the good times she had with Anakin could be a really touching scene. I'm sure he'd love to learn more about his father before he became Vader.

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Which he ... can hear ... from his father ... directly ...