The Mandalorian - Season 2 |OT| Wherever I go, he goes [SPOILERS ON EPISODE DROP]
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It's kinda wild how Mando paved over the ST vitriol right after Rise. Then managed to keep the hype and positive WoM for the year.
Not really wild. LF has a ton of live action SW projects lined up and each will be received differently by a fandom that knows no middle ground. The franchise is either dead or saved by a just released movie/tv show.
Thats why I always cringe when peeps declare this franchise dead.. if the prequels can't kill it.. nothing can. Keep in mind that even the mainstream media were clowning the prequels.
This series is often hit and miss for me, but I thought that episode was superb! That's the sort of Star Wars TV show I'd been dreaming of as a kid and the sort of thing I'd want to see. Boba Fett and Fennec are more of the type of character I want to see in this type of show.
Really enjoyed it, and looking forward to the rest of this season.
Really enjoyed it, and looking forward to the rest of this season.
It's not that wild. Mando isn't the ST. Why would the people complaining about it complain about Manda just because they're both SW?
Ah yes the plan B. The Mandalorian will be revealed as the new canon leading into a new ST and erasing TFA/TLJ/RoS out of existence 🙏
Ben is why Luke and Mara's relationship didn't work.
And Gideon's comment about poking an eye out, obviously that's a comment about Nick Fury.
It's great seeing him kick ass with or without the armor.
All of Jango's scenes in Attack of the Clones were my standout favorites.
Seeing the canon from the prequels being incorporated with a post-original trilogy boba Fett was great.
(I spent like ten minutes wondering which first order siege tank vehicle you were talking about until I realized you meant the experiment tanks from The Siege, because I am a big dumbo)Ryan Church has been heavily hinted those Siege tanks are related to Snoke.
So theories were already flying around the internet that these malformed artificial force-wielders could be protosnokes, due to their similar appearance
People have also pointed out that the music in this scene sounds similar to music that has been used for Snoke (Palpatine's creation, which was also used in episode 3 while he spoke of creating life) and also Kylo
And also that the Baby's recurring motif, the blood donor they're using to create these things, is also similar to Kylo Ren's
Now one of the concept artists for this scene is responding to someone on instagram bringing up the Snoke possibility with musical notes
(Plus the troop transports in the Tragedy appeared to be a direct predecessor to the First Order troop transport)
altogether this does seem... notable
(but it could always be some quality trolling from the artist having read some fan speculation)
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Haha yeah I'm playing, so happy they've been doing such a damn good job on mando.
A FB friend of mine made an interesting and plausible connection between "The Tragedy" and the other famous Star Wars "tragedy" we know of...that of Darth Plagius, the wise. Basically, that the title of the episode was actually a callback to that. The cloning that was happening, is leading to creating Snoke and eventually bringing Palpatine back. It's what Plagius figured out before Palpatine killed him...and it also ties into that line from TROS..."dark science, cloning, only secrets the Sith knew". If this turns out to be where it's going (the Kylo Ren musically motif is additional evidence), then The Mandalorian might turn out to be the connective tissue between all three trilogies that we had hoped TROS had been.
Edit: Oh! I've also seen stuff in relation to that line of TROS as forgetting that Kamino exists. Not necessarily...the Kamino were experienced cloners, but could they clone a force user? That's the real "dark science" that only a Sith might know.
It may be half joke and half serious, there are several people who truly want this to happen, but it likely won't. it will probably depend how much the mandalorian toy sales beat the ST's in order for them to possibly consider it
nothing in current canon has said they can't but legends canon says they can't as the midichlorians most of the time resisted the cloning process which is why most jedi clones failed
Seriously hopeful yes.
Edit: I know Disney won't do that, I'd just be glad if they did because the ST was a terrible mistake.
And that's how you know this is star wars.
"He can't die! We have so much more money to bilk from him."
What is cringe? That I would be happy if The Mandalorian had led the post-OT story considering how awful the movies were? I think the movies were terrible, the movie format wasn't well adapted to all the SW baggage and just made an uninteresting rushed mess of a story and bad characters.
it does feel like a lot of threads are getting tugged closer together right now
the sequel trilogy basically requires the main cast of star wars to remain mostly ignorant of the First Order's true origin and intent during this time period, this isnt their story
so The Mandalorian might actually be the place they choose to explore some of it, this stuff is above Din's pay grade for sure and he doesnt seem to even know Luke Skywalker exists
big reveals can still fly safely under the radar
If anything it seems like the mandalorian might be supporting the sequel trilogy, not removing it
It's not a problem that it would support it. It's how the story is told that matters. I don't mind the existence of Snoke, Palpie still being alive, Ben, Rey, Finn etc. But how that story was told was a complete rushed incoherent mess. The Mandalorian leading into Snoke or Palpie and all that, it likely would be better handled.
If you can live with the prequels.. you can live with the sequels.
4 billion dollars and 2/3 movies that were super well reviewed. Yep huge mistake.
I remembered that from Legends, and given the amount of lore that Filoni especially has brought over, I wouldn't be surprised if that was another piece that is carried over.
yaddle cheated on yoda and they got a divorce a restraining order now keeps yaddle from coming within 12 parsecs of any star wars story this is canon
The prequels suck as well, but that was George. The problem I see is the ST was made at a time when there was an alternative which I feel was better adapted to the series. Obviously they wanted the old gang in, they wanted movies, but Disney was not taking the TV show format seriously back then, it took GoT's success for them to start chasing that train and by then it was too late and we got rushed movies and weird stories. But hey, what can you do, none of that is going to change. At least the Mandalorian might make the ST retroactively less bad, just not less bad as movies, just less bad as the bit of story they filled in the whole.
Eh, I don't mind the sequels as much, but the prequels at least had a cool story, that got executed poorly. The ST had the opposite imo.
But let's not make this into another ST thread :P
You know I never noticed it or had an issue with it until Mandalorian started but after seeing so much of Mando's armor the Boba/Jango helmet looks absolutely huge now(and a tad basic) from certain angles.
I think it's definitely pointing at this show (and maybe one or two later) being the link between Return and Force. Similar to how Clone Wars was the link between Ep 2 and 3.
I disagree that the prequels are a good story executed badly. The story is also bad. The potential was there, but TPM is not a great story just hampered by wooden acting and stilted dialogue; the actual plot itself is also uninteresting. And AOTC and ROTS are arguably worse stories even if the latter is by far the best movie of the three.
I think when people speak of the PT story, they mean overall. They was a clear set of themes and a clear progression of what was going on. The downfall of Anakin, the fall of the Republic, the rise of the Empire. The Clone Wars mentioned in the OT.
With the ST...what was the story it was even trying to tell? It was just a series of seemingly independent conflicts with no cohesion or overally direction
I think the difference is that people can actively ignore the prequels because the story of the original trilogy stands strong and unaffected regardless of what happened in that trilogy. With the sequels, however, it limits what can and can't be done in the future in terms of storytelling, and depending on your opinion of the sequel trilogy, that can be a very good or very bad thing.
I thought the Stormtrooper fight in the latest episode was cheap and unexciting. The 'good' guys were just mowing through the troops with judo punches, blind shots and whatnot.
We saw 2 storm troopers missed shooting at a target for like 5 minutes straight last season. Storm Troopers is just there to slow down the good guys long enough for plot to happen. They're the skaven slaves of the Empire.
Y'all even remember the original trilogy?!? Stormtroopers were never marksmen. They were the horde you sent in. That's how the Empire and First Order worked.
It's like complaining how Kenshiro can survive a TNT explosion, when random lady who literally threw it away from her, dies. (Just got that box set!)
It's like complaining how Kenshiro can survive a TNT explosion, when random lady who literally threw it away from her, dies. (Just got that box set!)
Not only that but LF is also preparing Willow as the fantasy arm of Disney as well. And I expect it to be amazing!! 🙏🏾
To nitpick this, it's one of things I was hopeful with watching TFA making the FO different. The FO troopers had a bunch of specialists and roles like they were a smaller force than the Empire so they had to care about how well their troopers were trained. The other two movies threw that out the window to make them "Empire, but bigger"
Im trying to think about it, did any Empire troops besides pilots even have a kill in the OT? Besides maybe Ewoks?
Then I remember the opening to ANH where they get some but its a freaking hallway so they'd better have hit something.
The opinions of casual and new fans are always the ones I like to read most!
I am a fan of both Wars and Trek. It's been an exciting time with new episodes of Disco and Mando coming one after another each week.
It can be hard for old dedicated fans to gauge how well certain returning things are landing with more casual viewers, like Bo and Boba and Ahsoka
So what has been your reaction to these characters so far? Does everything seem to be progressing smoothly?
Don't forget, before season 1 even came out, Favreau and Filoni said we might find out the origins of the First Order in the Mandalorian
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Disney's 'The Mandalorian' to explore the untold origins of the First Order
New 'Star Wars' series to fill in some gaps between 'Return of the Jedi' and 'The Force Awakens.'