FUCK. I'm in the spoiler thread, aren't I?! Movie ruined.
FUCK. I'm in the spoiler thread, aren't I?! Movie ruined.
You know what was really funny? That awful clip of Mufasa's death and Simba's reaction with the terrible looking zoom is played twice in the movie. Once on Mufasa's death and the second time as a flashback when Scar reveals he killed Mufasa. I was laughing so hard.
They did and didn't at the same time. Honestly I think the scene to replace it was better.
It's a parody of a famous Disney scene and is pulled off hilariously
They did and didn't at the same time. Honestly I think the scene to replace it was better.
It's a parody of a famous Disney scene and is pulled off hilariously
Instead of that Timon acts like Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast about to sing "Be Our Guest" and both him and Pumba leave screaming as he says guest. It's actually pretty funny.
Well, it's 30 min longer than the original so there's that lol
Timone and Pumba were absolutely fantastic and in many ways an IMPROVEMENT over the original. Movie basically nailed the humor, but absolutely dropped the ball on the emotion, which is a cardinal sin. Quite disappointed. It reaffirmed to me that Aladdin was actually pretty good, because it had reasons to exist.
I found myself chuckling at parts in which I cried during my original viewing because the realism angle makes it hard to take seriously.
- drug trip scene
The Sarabi conversation seemed like an altered version of a scene intended for the original movie tbfThe significant extra scenes suck to me.
Simba's fur and shit
Zazu has a fight scene
Sarabi has a longer convo with scar.
Those are the ones I can remember. Everyone feel free to add
I like the old Timon and Pumbaa more, there was more jokes in the older version. I do love the jokes at the end of the new hakuna matata.
I do agree the emotion has been sucked dry in this movie... I actually laughed when Mufasa died.
And then when young simbas "noooo!" is repeated later in the film.... I laughed harder. The only thing emotionally gripping in this film is the background music.
Im glad I'm not the only one laughing at serious scenes!
The entire sequence was brilliant, the dead pan stares showed that if they want to they could have easily emoted the faces far more than they did in the rest of the movie, a deliberate choice for sure.They did and didn't at the same time. Honestly I think the scene to replace it was better.
It's a parody of a famous Disney scene and is pulled off hilariously
It wasn't padding, at least for me. Said this earlier but it works as a circle of life metaphor, showing Simba's role within the circle and by ending up in Rafiki's hand in such a manner not only does he find out Simba is alive, but he is lost without purpose and in his own way removed from the circle.The Simba fur ball scene was so boring and clearly meant to pad the movie out. I did love the lion sleeps tonight scene though.
Exactly. Its not better than the original nor does it remove it from existence, but it is different and offers something new which frankly the other remakes did not.Man, I must have seen a completely different movie than you guys.
I thought this was the best of the Disney remakes, I enjoyed it a ton. Loved how it felt like something out of Planet Earth.
My only real complaints are that Rafiki is my second favorite Disney character (the first being Mushu), and I didn't like his personality-change in this at all. Due to them looking like real lions, it was hard to keep track of who was Simba and who was Scar in that final battle, and that a lot of the songs with Beyonce in them seemed to be a huge miss due to what felt like her not really trying - where was the emotion on her part in "the lion sleeps tonight?" Glover killed it, like always.
Timon and Pumba were especially fantastic, might like them more than the original, even if they're just Seth Rogan playing Seth Rogan and Billy Eichner playing Billy Eichner. I really enjoyed how their jungle oasis got a bit more personality thanks to the other miscreant animals living there. I thought this movie solved my only real complaint about the animated movie, which was at 88 minutes long, we don't really get a chance to get to know most of the characters outside of Simba, Scar, and maybe Timon/Pumba. I thought this one had much better character development, especially when it comes to some minor characters like Sarabi.
As far as music goes, I think a lot of the songs in the animated movie were done much better, but the instrumentals/non-lyrical songs in this one are F A N TA S T I C. That soundtrack is incredible.
The original is still always going to be there for me to enjoy, I liked how different this one felt. It was much better than Aladdin, Jungle Book, and Beauty and the Beast for sure.
Rafiki was butchered in this film.
I did like the Rafiki fireflies scene with him... but it's mainly because I love the background music. To me this is the only memorable Rafiki scene. His new fight scene sucked.
My favorite Rafiki scene in the original movie is not in this film:
That is practically a shot-for-shot remake of the original. The zoom is in the original as well.You know what was really funny? That awful clip of Mufasa's death and Simba's reaction with the terrible looking zoom is played twice in the movie. Once on Mufasa's death and the second time as a flashback when Scar reveals he killed Mufasa. I was laughing so hard.
I know, but that zoom looked so much sillier here than in the original. Same with Mufasa falling.That is practically a shot-for-shot remake of the original. The zoom is in the original as well.
Because it had realistic looking animals?I know, but that zoom looked so much sillier here than in the original. Same with Mufasa falling.
Yes, falling Mufasa looks odd in the realistic style and that camera movement, while fairly common in animation, is pretty much never used in live action/realistic looking movies because that kind of fast movement doesn't work in real life.
The sequence is entirely different, no wild colours or dancing animals. What you get is Simba and Nala running with different other young animals.Is Just Can't Wait to be King as colourful and fun on this?
That's like the one scene I can't see working well with this artstyle.
Yes, falling Mufasa looks odd in the realistic style and that camera movement, while fairly common in animation, is pretty much never used in live action/realistic looking movies because that kind of fast movement doesn't work in real life.
I mean, IMO it's painfully obvious which one looks worse if you look at them next to each other.
Yes, falling Mufasa looks odd in the realistic style and that camera movement, while fairly common in animation, is pretty much never used in live action/realistic looking movies because that kind of fast movement doesn't work in real life.
I mean, IMO it's painfully obvious which one looks worse if you look at them next to each other.
That slap together with the line in the beginning from Scar that he wouldn't challenge Mufasa again, sort of implied to me that it was Mufasa that gave Scar his scar. I don't know if that is the case though, but Scar goes straight for Mufasa's eye with that slap. Then again, going for the eyes is a pretty common thing cats do when they fight.
It's practically not in the movie. The song has been retooled. All the lyrics are different, it's more like a short slam poem with some atmospheric music in the background. Honestly, there's only three seconds of the actual song, as the scene ends on Scar going 'My teeth and ambitions are bared, be prepaaaaared' to what sounds like the actual original music.
Yeah I mentioned this in another thread, but in the Art and the Making of TLK 2019 the designers talk about how in early screenings Timon for example used his front legs as arms and hands mimicking humans and being more expressive, but they were told to tone it down as meerkats don't do that in real life. That scene in particular felt like some of that leftover flavor, and the movie could have been even better if not for the realism limitation imo.The entire sequence was brilliant, the dead pan stares showed that if they want to they could have easily emoted the faces far more than they did in the rest of the movie, a deliberate choice for sure.
Dang, I never considered that scene from this angle. Nicely worded and in hindsight it makes sense that this is what they were going for. Also I don't get the padding complaints when it was only only around 5 minutes.It wasn't padding, at least for me. Said this earlier but it works as a circle of life metaphor, showing Simba's role within the circle and by ending up in Rafiki's hand in such a manner not only does he find out Simba is alive, but he is lost without purpose and in his own way removed from the circle.
How is it not padding when the original scene lasted 10 seconds.Yeah I mentioned this in another thread, but in the Art and the Making of TLK 2019 the designers talk about how in early screenings Timon for example used his front legs as arms and hands mimicking humans and being more expressive, but they were told to tone it down as meerkats don't do that in real life. That scene in particular felt like some of that leftover flavor, and the movie could have been even better if not for the realism limitation imo.
Dang, I never considered that scene from this angle. Nicely worded and in hindsight it makes sense that this is what they were going for. Also I don't get the padding complaints when it was only only around 5 minutes.
See this is the type of complaint I hate when comparing remakes to the original. If the scene were well done in the original but cut down in the remake, people would call it "rushed" in this movie. It's padding if it's longer or rushed if it's shorter because you people can't keep the original out of your heads and constantly comparing the two.How is it not padding when the original scene lasted 10 seconds.
Exactly. Even as someone who is mixed on the movie, I can't help but smh at some of the criticisms. People ask what's the point of remakes, then they try to change things up and people berate it not for being bad, but for diverging from what the original established. You can't have it both ways.This version of Can You Feel the Love Tonight is vastly superior to the original version.
Also the distraction joke will age better than the "dress in drag and do the hula"...even though if you knew anything about Nathan Lane it should still hold up
The shots of the end fight/ chase between Simba and Scar are really beautiful
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Everyone: Its a shot for shot remake! How boring!
also everyone: They changed so much! its inferior!
Why shouldn't people keep The Lion King in their heads when this movie is reminding you of it all the time? How couldn't they? It does not want to be its own thing. What it wants to do is mine your own sense of nostalgia. The only reason people are coming to watch the remake is because of the 1994 Lion King.See this is the type of complaint I hate when comparing remakes to the original. If the scene were well done in the original but cut down in the remake, people would call it "rushed" in this movie. It's padding if it's longer or rushed if it's shorter because you people can't keep the original out of your heads and constantly comparing the two.
This clearly isn't the same movie as the original (more often than not for the worse) and scenes being longer doesn't automatically mean it's padding.
Rand a. Thor put it perfectly as to why it makes sense in the movie. Honestly of all the changes the remake did, this might be the only one that was justified because it didn't make a ton of sense in the original.
Sure, I need to calm after that 12-word post.And as I said, it was a 5 minute scene in a 2 hour movie. Calm down.
I disagree. Glover is undersinging it and Beyoncé is oversinging it. Her vocal stylings at the end are completely drowning out Glover. It's painfully obvious that the two weren't even in the same room together when recording, because they're not tuned to each other at all.This version of Can You Feel the Love Tonight is vastly superior to the original version.
I disagree. Glover is undersinging it and Beyoncé is oversinging it. Her vocal stylings at the end are completely drowning out Glover. It's painfully obvious that the two weren't even in the same room together when recording, because they're not tuned to each other at all.
Did anyone actually get triggered about being "spoiled" on this movie or is this thread a subtle troll?
The circle of life is emblematic of the central motif of the film. It's not just a longer trip, it exemplifies a core piece of the narrative. Comparisons are going to happen since this movie is inherently made with the same framework. The issue is when people berate it merely for not being the exact same rather than being legitimately problematic.Why shouldn't people keep The Lion King in their heads when this movie is reminding you of it all the time? How couldn't they? It does not want to be its own thing. What it wants to do is mine your own sense of nostalgia. The only reason people are coming to watch the remake is because of the 1994 Lion King.
It basically is though. But worse in basically every way, like you mentioned.
I don't see how it makes more or any less sense. In the end, it's still a tuft of Simba's hair that magically made its way to Rafiki. Now we get to see a longer trip. Instead of being pushed by the wind, it's being pushed by inner cavities of an animal.
Sure, I need to calm after that 12-word post.
Ah, I see we have found the look to go with for the Live Action Robin Hood remake then.They took out Nala's DTF moment in the original.
Not to worry, they're repurposing it for Cats instead!