That's why Magneto and Xavier think the ban's in place. I'm not convinced the real reason isn't that Moira hates Destiny.
That's why Magneto and Xavier think the ban's in place. I'm not convinced the real reason isn't that Moira hates Destiny.
Yeah that is pretty well laid out. I guess that's going to be Legion's arc - finding out why Blindfold's getting screwed and uncovering Krakoa's big lie.
Yeah that is pretty well laid out. I guess that's going to be Legion's arc - finding out why Blindfold's getting screwed and uncovering Krakoa's big lie.
My problem is this annoying cognitive dissonance when they say they're breaking all the rules, but also every precog confirms you lose. Like, which is it? Are Moira, Xavier, and Erik, doomed but vainly hoping against hope or does excluding precogs somehow lead to a plan that bypasses their predictions? I don't even need to know the plan - keep your secrets Hickman - I just want to know where they're coming from as characters so I can be more invested in the big picture. Maybe I'd be more scared of Legion/Mystique revealing the truth if I knew that the secrets are supposed to lead to a plan that's supposed to work.
I was thinking regular old Onslaught the sentient psionic being. I was not even aware of Red Onslaught until this conversation.
Legion seems genuine and lucid for the moment and I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Frankly seeing the way Charles behaved when it came time to install his consciousness I wouldn't trust him with the knowledge of another being he might simply view as another of his shames and mistakes.
Thank goodness one can apparently live in the Astral Plane and download your memories yourself without Cerebro otherwise Legion wouldn't even have the chance to try be good. I'm curious if Onslaught would be capable of doing something similar being quite powerful himself.
Starting a blog that's critical of the Quiet Council is sowing doubt. Every precog in existence telling you you fail, is something else. Playing peek-a-boo with a baby doesn't actually remove the room. I just want to know they know that. That they aren't like Michael Caine in Interstellar - just hoping no one finds out they're full of shit before they die - but actually do have a plan to somehow bypass every prediction precogs see if they can only keep it quiet. That's all I want to know.Moira, Xavier and Magneto are working from the knowledge that mutants failed in every one of Moira's previous lives. Destiny knew what was going on with Moira's reincarnations but even she has some limitations on how much she can see of the future. She can't give mutants a step by step guide to surviving the future or else she would have. Moira and Co. are hoping that this current Krakoa experiment is the united front that mutants need to break the cycle. They don't know for sure whether it'll ultimately succeed but in order for it to work they need all mutants on board. Destiny and other precogs spreading any kind of doubt would screw that up. The irony is that bringing in precogs might actually help them adjust and succeed in the long run but they've painted themselves into a corner. Krakoa as a mutant haven and nation is their Hail Mary pass.
Starting a blog that's critical of the Quiet Council is sowing doubt. Every precog in existence telling you you fail, is something else. Playing peek-a-boo with a baby doesn't actually remove the room. I just want to know they know that. That they aren't like Michael Caine in Interstellar - just hoping no one finds out they're full of shit before they die - but actually do have a plan to somehow bypass every prediction precogs see if they can only keep it quiet. That's all I want to know.
I think they are like Michael Caine in Interstellar. They don't know for sure if this current Krakoan experiment will succeed, but at this point Moira believes she's run out of do-overs and this is the one thing they've haven't tried yet. It's not that all precogs would know whether Krakoa is destined to fail. Destiny wouldn't be able to see the entire timeline thousands of years into the future and definitely say whether it will work or not. But Moira doesn't want her (or anyone else) to sow any kind of doubt or even reveal to everyone how many times Moira has failed in the past.
From the panels posted above, Xavier and Magneto think everyone should know the truth, and I'd agree with them
Agreed.
Agreed.
My gut tells me that simply Moira hates Destiny and remembers what is to die slowly while being burned.
Moira was never a paragon of ethics and a saint.
To me, it's less the Onslaught name drop that makes it interesting to me, and it's more the actual story surrounding it that I think is a cool hook. Orchis modeling Krakoa's potential collapse from Haller's brain, and the Patchwork Man acting as a sort of devil vying for souls of mortals and the corruption of society. It neatly ties the superhero plot with the spiritual aspirations of the book.
Speaking of the downfall of Krakoa, Spurrier's hits on that again from a different angle by mentioning Blindfold's message. The precog ban is an important plot thread that's only really been touched on once in X-Men #6 with Mystique and Destiny. Since that and Xavier/Mags secrets are brought up so prominently here, I wonder if that's something we're finally getting addressed in Way of X. They've never spelled out exactly why the ban, but I think Blindfold's "inevitable" message goes along with what most of us were thinking. The theme of - we always lose - kind of goes along with Hickman's - everything dies - from Avengers an it's cosmic inevitability.
The other tidbit in this packed issue is Mag's hint about the Hellfire Gala. Omega mutants factor into what they're unveiling to the world there. Have they been able to form some sort of high powered mutant circuit between Omegas? Are they committing the Omega's to some specific cause? I wonder.
It's very likely at this point that Magneto is using the Omegas to create/terraform a planet for mutants (and there was a Planet X name dropped in House/Powers of X). I'm gonna guess Storm's next status quo is going to be as steward for said planet. Whether or not Krakoa, Arrako, or both end up there, I'm not sure (though I'm fairly confident Arrako will - all those warlike mutants are probably making Earth's heroes VERY nervous).
Storm's next status quo is going to be as part of the Black Panther book, so having her parked in space on Planet X probably isn't happening when there's writers/editors outside of the X-books making critical decisions on the character. That's likely why she was removed from marauders more than anything else.
AXIS may very well be the WORST crossover event Marvel has ever done (though King in Black was damned close) but ignoring it is impossible since that's the event that established that Wanda and Pietro weren't Magneto's kids.
Was that in AXIS? Thought that was confirmed in the Uncanny Avengers mini thing before Secret Wars
This is stupid and obvious but I've never realized until THIS MOMENT that her headpiece is meant to evoke Magneto's helmet.It was Axis where Evil Wanda tried to kill Magneto's entire family and it's probably best if nobody thinks too hard about it lol.
Two things: Xavier's response to Legion is...very curious and out of character for him. I'm not sure if that's an issue with the writing here or if there's larger meaning. Legion has always had a complicated relationship with Xavier, but Xavier has never been outright afraid of him. His reluctance to bring Legion back is understandable though- since Legion is quite possibly the most powerful mutant that exists (next to X-man, who is MIA) but is also totally uncontrollable because his mind is impossibly fragmented and he's a ticking time bomb.
Something also to consider with the Patchwork Man issue- per Xavier the Patchwork Man is definitely an "Omega Mutant" but currently by Hickman's definition Xavier isn't in that list, so both versions of Onslaught (O.G. and Red Onslaught) shouldn't be either. I think that's DEFINITELY an oversight on Hickman's part and Xavier should absolutely, positively be there over both Quentin and Jean (though I get why having THREE Omega Level psychics would be a little redundant) but as it is, that sort of leans toward the Patchwork Man being something Orchis created from Legion, rather than the O.G. Onslaught coming back from god-knows-where after a decade and teaming up with them.
so trueI could do without the bleeding cool but that art is so gorgeous...
It's worth noting that per some speculation, Trial of Magneto is in fact a Limited Series given the Solicitations sent out marking issue #1 as #1(Of #5). Here's hoping X-Factor gets a new book after?
Which one? All of her lifetimes were eventually accounted for in PoX, weren't they?It's been indicated that Moira is still hiding things from Xavier and we have an entire lifetime that hasn't been made public yet that likely has some bombshells in it. "No precogs" is likely less an unforced error than it is a deliberate attempt by Moira to keep the things she hasn't revealed to Xavier from becoming public yet.
She's writing Trial of Magneto which appears to be X-Factor focused, it's not like they kicked her to the curb. I also think it's obvious at this point X-Factor will be back, they just decided to put it on hold while Trial of Magneto runs and with Polaris leaving they're giving it a new #1 later in the year.
We still don't know what happened with the time she sided with Apocalypse. That time line goes on for a while.Which one? All of her lifetimes were eventually accounted for in PoX, weren't they?
Or do you mean not public to the mutants but public to the readers?
That was the PoX reveal, that the x3 timeline with the Librarian and the Phalanx was life 6 right?We still don't know what happened with the time she sided with Apocalypse. That time line goes on for a while.
YupThat was the PoX reveal, that the x3 timeline with the Librarian and the Phalanx was life 6 right?
The Apocalypse life was X^2 in Powers of X. It ended with Wolverine feeding her the data on Nimrod's activation and then killing her.We still don't know what happened with the time she sided with Apocalypse. That time line goes on for a while.
I hope it leads to a new #1 Leah Williams is a treasureShe's writing Trial of Magneto which appears to be X-Factor focused, it's not like they kicked her to the curb. I also think it's obvious at this point X-Factor will be back, they just decided to put it on hold while Trial of Magneto runs and with Polaris leaving they're giving it a new #1 later in the year.
Bleeding Cool put out their Planet Size X-Men previews:
Magneto Exposed in Planet-Sized X-Men #1 Improbable Preview
In this Improbable Preview of Planet-Sized X-Men #1, Magneto's cow-loving proclivities cause chaos on Krakoa. Plus: Summers vs. Rogers redux!bleedingcool.com
More at the link.
lol no, they release blank pages and they just fill in for fun
What convinces me it's happening is that if X-Factor was cancelled because it didn't sell I don't think they would immediately put the team on Trial of Magneto.
Which one? All of her lifetimes were eventually accounted for in PoX, weren't they?
Life 6 is the one that ends with the Phalanx coming to Earth in POX.No. Theres still one (life six) we know nothing about.
Look at the LEFT side of the chart, people. It skips from life 5 to life 7. 6 never appeared.
Life 6 is the one that ends with the Phalanx coming to Earth in POX.
Yeah, that's a PoX #3 chart and the reveal is in PoX #6. I mean, the book spells it out.
Did you look at the picture I posted? Bottom right corner? Lol
Did you look at the picture I posted? Bottom right corner? Lol
What I find interesting is that it was essentially her "best run". I guess she needed to try other things earlier in the timeline in her subsequent three lives.so we know how she dies in life 6, but nothing about any other event in that timeline. It's unaccounted for.
What I find interesting is that it was essentially her "best run". I guess she needed to try other things earlier in the timeline in her subsequent three lives.