Kinda late, but good god, this. Your editor failed you OP, yeesh.
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The Fall and Rise of the Xbox One
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Kinda late, but good god, this. Your editor failed you OP, yeesh.
That isn't why people have an issue with some of your content and past posts, it's because you have a history of posting such slanted, misleading or downright factually incorrect things to push a pro Microsoft and anti-Sony agenda.
Eg you'll claim Sony has the worst first party meta averages of all the platforms when factually that is incorrect several years on the trot, and then ignore the posts that correct you on this.
You'll claim its predominantly Sony pushing out CGI trailers at conferences as one of the reasons you prefer Microsoft showings, and then when people highlight how Microsoft actually showed just as many if not more CGI trailers, you'll also ignore that post.
You'll state that you prefer Microsoft because they only show stuff that is coming out soon at conferences, and when someone responds with a bunch of games they'd shown years in advance, many that were cancelled, you'll ignore that too.
Then there's tweets like these.
And these are all just a few examples. It isn't like people's skepticism of your journalistic or other content is completely misplaced or aimless.
Edit: And I didn't go digging through either, just Goggle searched DocSeuss Twitter Sony and these were some of the very first tweets that came up lol.
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Kinda late, but good god, this. Your editor failed you OP, yeesh.
DP, sorta.
The twitter links aren't showing up and the it says the account is suspended. What did they say?
Sony has been making a lot of dumb decisions lately. They have the second worst console when services are concerned. Although Sony does have games, they're extremely lacking in diversity. The only thing MS needs right now are critically acclaimed exclusives and going by their current first party studios, Xbox could potentially have the most diverse and attractive first party in the coming years.
I've no doubt if Sony doesn't change by next gen, their arrogance is going to screw them over, like it's done in the past.
I've no doubt if Sony doesn't change by next gen, their arrogance is going to screw them over, like it's done in the past.
Why would it be shocking?
They've done it before. In Gen 7, Microsoft went fairly conservative and Sony fucked up giving Microsoft a window and they took it.
In Gen 8, Sony went fairly conservative and Microsoft fucked up giving Sony a window and they took it.
Now we're heading into a generation where odds are, neither is going to fuck up so hugely that they effectively hand the generation over to their competitor. So it's going to take a lot more than one or two things to sway people one way or another.
I think the key to next gen will be backwards compatibility. Right now, there are a lot of PS4 owners that invested a LOT of money in digital PS4 games. If Sony play it safe and smart and have the PS5 play PS4 games then they should logically keep their existing base. But if the PS5 doesn't play PS4 games? Then it's open slather. No one is being tied to that ecosystem by their digital investment anymore and suddenly a lot of those 360 -> PS4 switchers will probably look to switch back knowing their 360 digital library will be there waiting for them as well as anything they missed on Xbox One.
Its a ballsy prediction that's for sure. Losing Europe would require a large screw up from Sony I feel. If both Sony and MS play well, it's possible to win USA and UK but not guaranteed. Gamepass and Xcloud are advantages that are ephemeral because there is nothing but institutional opposition stopping it from coming to Sony in the same way. If Sony starts falling behind in some markets then they can effectively match it with their own streaming offerings (which already exist!) and offer its own Gamepass library.
I'm confident Ms will do well, but it's hard to say what Sony will do.
And if Sony don't offer full BC? Or if people look at Xbox and like that titles all the way back to the original Xbox are compatible? People can be swayed fairly easily, it just takes one major screw up to swing sides.
Hopefully Sony implements BC then, and I know all signs point to them doing this but if they don't, well that would be a big win for Xbox.
Very, very difficult, but not impossible.
I also think if Microsoft had carried over the progress they'd made with the 360 instead of messing up so badly they'd be far closer to a tie with Sony this gen.
All it takes is a couple of mistakes by Sony and a couple dozen right moves by Microsoft for things to change and I think they are in the best position to do just that.
Betty is probably talking about the US. People almost always are.
Europeans are always so quick to jump in with the "BUT ACHTUALLY" regarding 360 and PS3 sales, but living here in the states y'all might as well be from another planet. 360 smoked PS3 here, it was the de facto console for the entire generation. It could certainly shift back next gen, depending on how Sony and MS play their hands.
That account's locked, so those tweets can't be seen here. It's weird as fuck that you'd go digging around super old tweets of mine.
So the first one accused Sony of being very cinematic story-focused, in the context of a thread that explored why some games review extremely well. The other two posts are from the same thread talking about the same thing: if you write a mediocre third-person action-adventure game, you're more likely to win a Game of the Year award than if you make an EXTREMELY well-designed technical game.
This is why city builders, racing games, and even games like Bayonetta don't win GOTY awards when they should. Platinum, especially, is VERY into making technical-as-fuck games that benefit from multiple playthroughs.
But most game reviewers are playing once, trying to finish the critical path, put in X time in multiplayer, and write a review on time. A simplistic story with great presentation is going to win GOTY awards more than a game that's extremely well designed and technical, because ultimately, reviewers are more likely to play a game once, and quickly, than they are to complete a game. Presentation matters more to reviewers than anything else. So a game like TLOU, with bad gameplay and repetitive game design is going to win awards that a game like Forza Horizon 4, possibly the best racing game of all time, could never compete for.
It's like how independent films almost never win oscars, but oscar bait does. This is a topic I talk about a lot. For instance, a thread of mine that blew up recently is one that argues that gameplay-specific bullet points don't sell games, the experience does. If you want to convince people to buy your game, you have to sell them on an INTERESTING FANTASY. A lot of games don't do that. It's why they sell poorly. I was talking with a friend about this; his game did extremely well, but a friend's didn't. His friend's game doesn't have a sexy hook. His game had a very sexy hook and an incredibly strong world.
People value the emotional experience of a game over features. Microsoft's big mistake as a publisher is that they push bullet points. Sony's great success is that they push experiences. People see God of War and they go "I want to go there and be Kratos." People see Spider-Man and go "I want to be Spider-Man." You see lots people arguing that Spidey's combat isn't super technical and good, or that God of War's loot system feels tacked on and awesome, but when the time comes for GOTY discussions, those games absolutely destroy games with SUPER brilliant game design.
Experience matters more than mechanics.
Developers need to understand this in order to succeed. Ubisoft are the masters at this; it's why their games outsell everyone's basically every year, despite lots of hate from the hardcore. Bethesda's also really fucking good at t his, which is why Fallout 4 sells a billion copies even though hardcore gamers prefer New Vegas.
People buy games to experience the fantasy.
If you want to try a gotcha, you need to try something smarter than that. Low-hanging "hey you said sony's games didn't have perfect game design" accusations are just silly. Cherry picking my tweets won't make Shawn Layden adopt you as his favorite son.
Sony is better at selling games than Microsoft is because Microsoft's focusing on making games that have unique bullet points instead of worlds worth visiting. Look at Sony's marketing over DECADES. It's all like "look at our worlds, share our experiences, blah blah blah." Microsoft's best marketing ever did the same thing.
Now.
Sony DOES predominantly push out CGI trailers at conferences. They still do it. Their games show up years an advance. Microsoft used to do that. Now they don't. I like that Microsoft now only tends to announce stuff close to release. They learned that lesson. That's not ignoring what has been done, that's acknowledging that they've changed how they operate.
You're being very disingenuous here.
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Honestly I'm gonna make the prediction right now:
Xbox will take back the US and UK (along with Australia/Canada too) in the next generation. In those territories, they arent THAT far behind Playstation. The gap is far smaller than the gap between 360 and PS3 last gen.
Though PlayStation will sell most consoles worldwide (continental europe and ROTW will still largely favour them), I expect the margin to be smaller, with maybe a 4:3 ratio instead of 2:1.
Xbox will take back the US and UK (along with Australia/Canada too) in the next generation. In those territories, they arent THAT far behind Playstation. The gap is far smaller than the gap between 360 and PS3 last gen.
Though PlayStation will sell most consoles worldwide (continental europe and ROTW will still largely favour them), I expect the margin to be smaller, with maybe a 4:3 ratio instead of 2:1.
Nope, I will not allow this. Now you've gone too far.
I don't want to see anyone talking shit about TLOU. I forbid it.
My bad, I keep forgetting America is the only country in the world.
You gotta understand that I love games for really good mechanics and encounter design. It's why I'm a Ninja Gaiden guy and not a Devil May Cry guy. Naughty Dog has really bog standard "this is your obvious cover, this is an obvious combat encounter, this is the 80th ladder/box puzzle in the game..."
I'm not a fan of that style of design.
This is why I don't like Rockstar games either. Give me a game with a butter-smooth character controller and really good enemy mobs and I'll fall in love.
Nib, how fucking stupid is it that you're saying a claim I made a long time ago, which was true then, is not true at the time now, and therefore I must be lying?
What is actually wrong with you?
Last time I said "sony has the worst metascore average," I had the metascore averages in front of me, and they did. Sony is no longer behind. But they were when I said it.
You're doing some weird as fuck logic to make your arguments work.
That's sure an.... opinion.
L O L
So go play TLOU on Survivor and get back to me.
Like, you're not wrong about Uncharted 4. But half the reason TLOU was so praised was because it had meaty ass gameplay. With all the Naughty Dog bells and whistles. Utter masterpiece.
Sorry DocSuess, I just cant agree with you there. Aside from Naughty Dog (Which I agree, make hugely overrated games), pretty much most Sony games have stellar gameplay.
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Damn
(This expose would be even easier if Reset didn't have an off site drama rule tbh)
The author, lol.
Sorry, but Xbox deserves no praise at all thanks to their pitiful games output this gen.
Sorry, but Xbox deserves no praise at all thanks to their pitiful games output this gen.
Sony is also very likely to enable PS4 purchases to carry over to the next-gen and millions of satisfied gamers along with them. They won't have an underpowered and overpriced console for people to question. They're already in the strongest position as far as the market for VR devices is concerned, and will have a new one that builds upon their already strong first attempt. PlayStation's newest CEO is from a network/services background and 3 much requested service features have been integrated this year under his watch, and that's before the PS5 is even announced. I think those that believe Sony isn't continuing to invest in their network infrastructure for next-gen are in for a rude awakening. Sony ain't lying down taking a beating next-gen. They're investing in their strongest AND weakest areas, just like MS must. It's going to be a highly competitive gen.
I'm gonna finish it eventually, but the encounter design and puzzle variety bored me to tears so I stopped playing.
If you loved it, you loved it. I would never tell you that you can't enjoy a game you enjoy. I love really terrible shit with irredeemable gameplay, like The Darkness. But yeah, sorry, I really think the pacing and level design let down TLOU and I could't get past that.
I want to believe you're right. I do. But I don't think Sony will do this. They have made a lot of money making people rebuy remastered games. I don't think Backward Compatibility is a technical hurdle, because if it was, we'd have all our PS1 classics on the PS4. I'd kill to play MGS on my PS4 instead of jeopardizing my PS3, you know? I don't want a YLOD. They've rereleased Jak twice now instead of going "well, if you own Jak digitally on PS3, we're giving it to you free on PS4." Tons of stuff like that. I'd love to get Persona 3 FES on my PS4, and the PS4 HAS a PS2 emulator, but Sony hasn't just said "hey, every PS2 game you owned on PS3 can be played on PS4 now, have fun." They consistently make us repurchase those games.
So like, I'm really, really doubtful that Sony wants to do BC. I think they'll only do it if they start losing badly, just like Microsoft did.
Now, I've been wrong before! Like, I said there was no way capcom was doing G-rank for MH, and it turns out they are. I have totally fucked up before. But I can't talk about shit I know for certain or I'd break NDAs. I can only speculate on stuff I DON'T know about, so I sometimes get it wrong, lol.
It's ok you don't like it, but when you say "It's terrible and worse than this game I like" just sounds like salt because of the award, what makes you article super parcial.
Thread backfired lol
I agree on the fact of MC getting on their feet again with BC and Gamepass. Sony and Nintendo should keep up
Everything else is some fanboy wet dreams tho
I agree on the fact of MC getting on their feet again with BC and Gamepass. Sony and Nintendo should keep up
Everything else is some fanboy wet dreams tho
Wonder how MS is any better than Sony announcing games early. I mean, their next biggest game is CD3 and that was revealed almost 5 years ago.
Also, Sony has the luxury of revealing early because they normally reach a point where they have a healthy flow of games that release while you wait for other titles that take longer to cook.
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Funny. I did exactly that last week. Still incredible!
Statham too now. LOL indeed.
I went from the PS4 UI to the latest updated UI on my X and imo it's so much better then the PS4 Ui. Especially during games my PS4 would lag so much accessing friends lists or going into store menu.
My X with Netflix running in the background plus a game the Ui never slows down and always loads the store, Gamepass and other tabs really fast. I also love how so many features like LFG, friends lists, party chat etc are handled so much better on the Xbox UI.
Are you saying the only way I CAN'T sound salty is to say "naughty dog is the best and no one is better?" Why can't I have opinions lol
Well, I wrote about why I think Alan Wake has good gameplay, so if you want to at least understand where I'm coming from, you could read my essay on it?
https://kotaku.com/the-level-that-proves-how-special-alan-wake-was-1739415224
I later wrote about why I think Quantum Break had bad gameplay in comparison:
http://thesto.mp/post/180667642097/lets-talk-remedy
I'm not lying, I just have very specific tastes. If you want to understand where I'm coming from, you can read this to understand me better?
Cool, I'm remembering something older than that. My bad.
Microsoft stopped announcing games early.
They even said "we shouldn't have announced crackdown 3 so early."
Sony still does it.
This is off topic tho; nib's just trying to argue I'm a fanboy and bringing shitloads of "ur a fanboy" into the thread instead of actually staying on topic.
Damn, now I kinda want to again.
TLOU is probably the best video game. Don't @ me.
Care to show us those predominantly CGI trailers (I guess you suggest they are prerendered and not real time or gameplay?) of their exclusives that they are still pushing out at conferences? Let's say in the last two years? :)
God DAMN
DocSeuss...just back out of the thread man. There's no coming back from this.
can you bookmark me too. add me to favorites, and tweet this out.
Well he's not exactly wrong. There's nothing wrong with that as we all have our preferences in life, but the worst kind of fanboy is the fanboy that denies being one.
It's funny to see so many dismiss Microsoft and their efforts over the last year or so "because of their history" (not you specifically) but then so easily assume the PS5 will play PS4 games despite...you know, Sony's history.
While the PS5 should logically play PS4 games, nothing Sony has done in the last decade suggests that will be the case
- Removed PS2 BC from the PS3
-Made us re-buy digital PS2 purchases from PS3 on PS4
- Release a SHIT TONNE of successful remasters and remakes which is the market telling them they'd rather re-buy old games
- Really ramp up the number PS4 games on PS Now
- Publicly shit on old games
I'm not sure why so many people are so confident it'll happen when recent history suggests it won't. I'm not saying it won't, I'm just saying I'm not overly confident it will.
Best is dependent on priorities. None of these platform holders have the market completely cornered in all things that matter.
Bought my first PlayStation in awhile this gen and no regrets. Last of Us, God of War, Bloodbourne and The Show were worth the cost of the Pro and are IPs that'll convince me to upgrade to the PS5 when it launches.
My most played exclusives this gen?:
...and the Elite controller 2 over the most powerful console.
To each their own. The difference in priorities is why these platforms will push each other to continue to expand their value.
Bought my first PlayStation in awhile this gen and no regrets. Last of Us, God of War, Bloodbourne and The Show were worth the cost of the Pro and are IPs that'll convince me to upgrade to the PS5 when it launches.
My most played exclusives this gen?:
- Halo 5 Multiplayer
- Backwards compatibility
- Game Pass
...and the Elite controller 2 over the most powerful console.
To each their own. The difference in priorities is why these platforms will push each other to continue to expand their value.
When do you think Fable, Halo 6 and Gears will release?
Either way, MS "still does it" since we haven't seen a steady behavior from them of revealing games that release a year or two later yet. Going with what we have on the table, MS does the same, they just don't currently have the content to get into a rhythm of releases that can help space each other out and make the wait less painful for games that take longer.
sony has had a long history of backward compatibility since before the ps3. So I have faith they will have bc in ps5. There's more chance of it happening than it not happening.
That's your whole Article. You are the disingenuous one here.
I think the point here is that both platforms pushed CGI trailers in those early years. It's misplaced to only berate one of them for it and imply or act as though the other didn't do pretty much the same damn thing. Nit picking semantics at that point.
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