...they just let you stream anything on Twitch now, don't they?
After the dip late last week and the COVID-19 news over the weekend, this was not a huge surprise. I didn't expect COVID-19 to trigger the recession but the red days are piling up. Its a bit too soon to call it a full blown recession but clearly the era of monthly ATHs are over.
Dec 2018* surely?I think we'll dip quite a bit this week. Dec 2008 levels at least. People are expecting a downturn and something like this will trigger some pullbacks for people
Shanghai is already starting to rebound. I think the DOW will trail behind Shanghai by a couple of days. Both Xi and Trump are interested in keeping the bull run going because their authority hinges on it. If China stabilizes, it'll reassure American investors that their supply chains won't get disrupted.US GDP growth was forecast as a meagre 0.6% FY in Feb. If this keeps up it might slow the economy more than we thought, even if the US is less reliant on foreign commerce that China and the EU.
I have cursory knowledge of the Chinese stock market. How much of the rebound is due to their government pumping in funds to prop it up? Have their factories resumed normal business? Aren't a lot of cities still on lockdown?Shanghai is already starting to rebound. I think the DOW will trail behind Shanghai by a couple of days. Both Xi and Trump are interested in keeping the bull run going because their authority hinges on it. If China stabilizes, it'll reassure American investors that their supply chains won't get disrupted.
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I was. Was the same year my pension started , it was great as those early savings have grown a lot from the subsequent recoveryI think most of us weren't paying attention to the markets in '08 lol (me included)
I was. Was the same year my pension started , it was great as those early savings have grown a lot from the subsequent recovery
This is just fears covid19 will hit growth, which it will , but the US economy is going to remain pretty strong
The market was supposed to tank if Trump got elected. It's almost impossible to predict what the market will respond.We could be in for a one, two punch if Bernie is looking strong in November. WallStreet will freak the fuck out if Bernie wins.
The market was supposed to tank if Trump got elected. It's almost impossible to predict what the market will will respond.
Pretty much.
We could be in for a one, two punch if Bernie is looking strong in November. WallStreet will freak the fuck out if Bernie wins.
The market grew because the economy has been strong and corporate earning have largely been great. It has little to do with Trump. If anything, Trump has held the market back from being even higher, due to his trade wars and bluster.The market was also expecting rational and necessary interest rate hikes. Once Trump showed that he wrongly and dangerously considered the stock market to be the whole economy - and his entire economic strategy- well the Street got pretty busy. That will come home to roost before or after November. But roost it will.
The market didn't grow in spite of Trump's incompetence and graft - it has irrationally swollen because of it. And when it bursts, we will all be showered with the ordure.
I have cursory knowledge of the Chinese stock market. How much of the rebound is due to their government pumping in funds to prop it up? Have their factories resumed normal business? Aren't a lot of cities still on lockdown?
The market was also expecting rational and necessary interest rate hikes. Once Trump showed that he wrongly and dangerously considered the stock market to be the whole economy - and his entire economic strategy- well the Street got pretty busy. That will come home to roost before or after November. But roost it will.
The market didn't grow in spite of Trump's incompetence and graft - it has irrationally swollen because of it. And when it bursts, we will all be showered with the ordure.
The market grew because the economy has been strong and corporate earning have largely been great. It has little to do with Trump. If anything, Trump has held the market back from being even higher, due to his trade wars and bluster.
Your portfolio grew 102% last year? 0_0Anecdotally, I finished 2018 at -1%, and finished 2019 with 102%. I know of many other people that had similar performance too.
IMO, all of it is a pump. The factories have not really recovered, but investors don't care about the situation on the ground, only if the stocks are green or red. Xi knows this, Jerome Powell knows this. Trump knows this in his broken clock sort of way.I have cursory knowledge of the Chinese stock market. How much of the rebound is due to their government pumping in funds to prop it up? Have their factories resumed normal business? Aren't a lot of cities still on lockdown?
This is already running on Fox NewsCan't wait for the media to spin this as "Fears of the momentum of Socialist Bernie Sanders!".
This artificial bubble is being supported by so much bullshit scaffolding. Good luck, whoever has a legitimate reliance on the markets.
Can't wait for the media to spin this as "Fears of the momentum of Socialist Bernie Sanders!".
This artificial bubble is being supported by so much bullshit scaffolding. Good luck, whoever has a legitimate reliance on the markets.
They tried that spin with Obama as well, and it was not effective
Surely a typo...?Anecdotally, I finished 2018 at -1%, and finished 2019 with 102%. I know of many other people that had similar performance too.
I mean, if you make more than 100 grand as a single person and your total health care costs per year are less than 5 grand a year, oh wait I did the math you'd still end up saving in that case.Bernie will be massively increasing taxes from current levels.
I mean, if you make more than 100 grand as a single person and your total health care costs per year are less than 5 grand a year, oh wait I did the math you'd still end up saving in that case.
Bernie will be massively increasing taxes from current levels.
That's what I'm wondering. lol
EVEN IF Bernie gets the house and Senate to flip. Senate moderate Dems will hold some of Bernie's initiatives back. Look at how Pete and Biden talk about Bernie. There are plenty of those type of Senators on the Dem side.
And that's a huge IF for the Senate to flip.
Right.
How are you going to convince the Testers and Manchins of the world to adopt some of his policies? I just don't see it.
Especially M4A.
I was up over 300% last year. But I actively monitor on a day by day basis. I was also down 40% the year before though so yeah.
If Trump has taught us anything, you can just bypass Congress a lot of the time if you're determined enough.
Yeah I'm actually expecting a recession later this year. One quarter of severely depressed Chinese and Asian output has to make a dent some how.After the dip late last week and the COVID-19 news over the weekend, this was not a huge surprise. I didn't expect COVID-19 to trigger the recession but the red days are piling up. Its a bit too soon to call it a full blown recession but clearly the era of monthly ATHs are over.
If Trump has taught us anything, you can just bypass Congress a lot of the time if you're determined enough.
Bernie cant unilaterally raise taxes by himself. Also this has nothing to do with Bernie.Bernie will be massively increasing taxes from current levels.
How do you figure he can bypass a GOP controlled Senate? Especially when many Dems won't even go for much of what he wants.If Trump has taught us anything, you can just bypass Congress a lot of the time if you're determined enough.