The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann | Netflix 8 Part True-Crime Documentary - Out March 15th

Linkura · Mar 14, 2019

Heshinsi said:
Do you all remember when an innocent Berber family had to prove that their daughter was actually theirs, because apparently the idea of having children who don't look like their parents is a foreign concept to some people?

Lolwut. There's definitely resemblance in the dad's eyes and mother's nose.

Heshinsi · Mar 14, 2019

Linkura said:
Lolwut. There's definitely resemblance in the dad's eyes and mother's nose.

Yeah all they saw was the blonde hair though. People are fucking stupid.

nillansan · Mar 14, 2019

Puroresu_kid said:
I'm not convinced the parents were in on it or somehow managed to dispose of a body but I do feel if the parents were ethnic minority or working-class white the media would have attacked them and blamed them.

I actually have no doubt in my heart.

Linkura · Mar 14, 2019

Heshinsi said:
Yeah all they saw was the blonde hair though. People are fucking stupid.

They really fucking are. Many people have blonde hair as young children and it gets darker as they grow older. Plus it's not out of the realm of possibility for two brunettes to have a blonde child anyway. My own aunt had blonde hair for her whole life despite having 2 brunette parents.

Deleted member 14080 · Mar 14, 2019

This thread has already reached levels of David Icke.com forums conspiracy theories ...

excelsiorlef · Mar 14, 2019

Puroresu_kid said:
I'm not convinced the parents were in on it or somehow managed to dispose of a body but I do feel if the parents were ethnic minority or working-class white the media would have attacked them and blamed them.

They were attacked in a lot of the sleezier UK publications

Kaim Argonar · Mar 14, 2019

Disappointing description. The parents had something to do with it and it was fucking shameful how Scotland Yard took over dismissing evidence provided by the Portuguese police.

As some of you said, had the suspects been of any other ehtnicity or nationality they would have been all over them.

Coxy · Mar 14, 2019

I personally feel the parents did it - or at least know what happened.

I once read a website (which has since been taken down) with 17 or so key facts (and a long explanation about each one) that for me showed the guilt. Far too many inconsistencies.

Regardless of whether they did do anything or not - unbelievable that they went to dinner and left their kids. Why go on holiday with them if you're doing that? Damned right negligent.

Alwayscrazybacon · Mar 14, 2019

d9b said:
This thread has already reached levels of David Icke.com forums conspiracy theories ...

That's the problem, many of the doubters are getting lumped in with conspiracy theorists. There's no way you can follow the whole story outside of the headlines and not think everything adds up.

Deleted member 12352 · Mar 14, 2019

I always felt bad for doubting the parents over the disappearance... and yet doubt them both I still do.

Will be watching this for sure.

Ether_Snake · Mar 14, 2019

Alwayscrazybacon said:
That's the problem, many of the doubters are getting lumped in with conspiracy theorists. There's no way you can follow the whole story outside of the headlines and not think everything adds up.

I was sure they did it before I went through the investigation itself, and at first you think you see all sorts of hints (like when they go diving but then you realize they are with the local instructor), but over time it just makes less and less sense. But you can definitely imagine that in realizing they would be blamed because of their negligence they started to lie and hire PR firms and all to protect themselves, which led people to think they had something to do with the disappearance.

Allforce · Mar 14, 2019

Heshinsi said:
Do you all remember when an innocent Berber family had to prove that their daughter was actually theirs, because apparently the idea of having children who don't look like their parents is a foreign concept to some people?

LOLwut? The media actually just found some random people and accused them of actually stealing the missing baby? To the point they had to pose in this photo with that ridiculous hat?

Alwayscrazybacon · Mar 14, 2019

Ether_Snake said:
I was sure they did it before I went through the investigation itself, and at first you think you see all sorts of hints (like when they go diving but then you realize they are with the local instructor), but over time it just makes less and less sense. But you can definitely imagine that in realizing they would be blamed because of their negligence they started to lie and hire PR firms and all to protect themselves, which led people to think they had something to do with the disappearance.

The inconsistencies happened immediately. Before the PR campaign, before going to see the pope. Your kids missing and they go and play tennis? Really?

Ether_Snake · Mar 14, 2019

Alwayscrazybacon said:
The inconsistencies happened immediately. Before the PR campaign, before going to see the pope. Your kids missing and they go and play tennis? Really?

This doesn't add any evidence that they were involved. Dumb, cold, uncaring? Possibly, but looking at the actual evidence, witnesses testimonies, police interrogations (which are all online), it doesn't make sense that in a two hour time frame she would have gone from alive to dead/disappeared. There is just no actual credible way to explain their involment unless you assume they drugged the kids and planned for someone to come and take the kids while they were at the club's restaurant. The police never managed to explain how it would have played out.

Heshinsi · Mar 14, 2019

Allforce said:
LOLwut? The media actually just found some random people and accused them of actually stealing the missing baby? To the point they had to pose in this photo with that ridiculous hat?

It was a Spanish tourist in Morocco that started it, but yeah.

impingu1984 · Mar 14, 2019

Whether or the parents had anything to with the disappearance is for me largely irrelevant.

The fact is at the very least they should be charged with child neglect. They fucked off out for wine and tapas and last 3 very young children home alone... If this was Sharon Matthews doing the same in benidorm going down the red lion to watch only fools and horses she would have been raked over the coals (and rightly so).

And yet they ran a savvy media campaign and raked in 100,000s of pounds to fund a search?!?

Seriously WTF

airjoca · Mar 14, 2019

The Portuguese Police's evidence was dismissed because at a certain point it became "us vs them", upstanding british citizens vs a poor southern european country.

Adonis · Mar 14, 2019

impingu1984 said:
Whether or the parents had anything to with the disappearance is for me largely irrelevant.

The fact is at the very least they should be charged with child neglect. They fucked off out for wine and tapas and last 3 very young children home alone... If this was Sharon Matthews doing the same in benidorm going down the red lion to watch only fools and horses she would have been raked over the coals (and rightly so).

And yet they ran a savvy media campaign and raked in 100,000s of pounds to fund a search?!?

Seriously WTF

I remember watching a doc about this a few years ago and some one remembered seeing a man carrying a child in his hands near their hotel, it turned out he was picking his child up from an all night creche .. so it's not like that facility was not even available to them .

Ether_Snake · Mar 14, 2019

Adonis said:
I remember watching a doc about this a few years ago and some one remembered seeing a man carrying a child in his hands near their hotel, it turned out he was picking his child up from an all night creche .. so it's not like that facility was not even available to them .

They brought their own kids there more than once.

cabot · Mar 14, 2019

impingu1984 said:
Whether or the parents had anything to with the disappearance is for me largely irrelevant.

The fact is at the very least they should be charged with child neglect. They fucked off out for wine and tapas and last 3 very young children home alone... If this was Sharon Matthews doing the same in benidorm going down the red lion to watch only fools and horses she would have been raked over the coals (and rightly so).

And yet they ran a savvy media campaign and raked in 100,000s of pounds to fund a search?!?

Seriously WTF

This is my stance. You don't leave a 3 year old and two one year old kids alone in a room in another country.

On top of that they left a door unlocked. Madness.

Alwayscrazybacon · Mar 14, 2019

airjoca said:
The Portuguese Police's evidence was dismissed because at a certain point it became "us vs them", upstanding british citizens vs a poor southern european country.

The "stupid foreign cops" angle was played a lot when it suited them.

Masterspeed · Mar 14, 2019

While I'm gonna watch it because it was hella big when it happened.... but 8 parts? Seriously!? How couldn't they of condensed that into about 4? Or even one movie documentary?

ArjanN · Mar 14, 2019

Linkura said:
Lolwut. There's definitely resemblance in the dad's eyes and mother's nose.

i mean yeah, in that kid and about 10 million other similar looking kids.

giant_frying_pan · Mar 14, 2019

We send £350 million each week to the EU.

Let's spend it on Finding Maddie instead.

Reformed Individual · Mar 14, 2019

This is gonna be good to watch tomorrow when I get in. Definitely one of the most interesting missing persons case out there, especially cause I'm from the UK and it is still brought up fairly often.

Ryo Hazuki · Mar 15, 2019

Anyone watched any of this yet? It's now up on Netflix. Interested in impressions.

SomethingInTheSea · Mar 15, 2019

Ryo Hazuki said:
Anyone watched any of this yet? It's now up on Netflix. Interested in impressions.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...madeleine-mccann-netflix-review-moral-failure
The Guardian review gives it 1 out of 5 stars and basically says that it brings no new perspective and is padded out far beyond the length it should be, so I don't think anybody should get their hopes up.

jakeh111 · Mar 15, 2019

There goes my weekend

Deleted member 923 · Mar 15, 2019

Watched two episodes and yeah, it's a complete waste of time.

obin_gam · Mar 15, 2019

T-Rex. said:
Watched two episodes and yeah, it's a complete waste of time.

How so?

Deleted member 20295 · Mar 15, 2019

Man episode 2 was maddening, the press basically created a suspect for themselves.

Merrill · Mar 15, 2019

The first episode is losing me. It's all over the place, too many different people talking. It's slow and boring.

shaneo632 · Mar 15, 2019

Too many good things out this week for me to bother if it's not great.

Cat Party · Mar 15, 2019

I have enjoyed some of the Netflix true crime series, but no fucking way am I watching one about child abduction.

Blent · Mar 15, 2019

I wasn't in the UK when this all happened, so I'm intrigued to learn about the details.

Although, I'm disappointed about a lot of the negative reaction I've seen to the quality of the series so far.

TheBeardedOne · Mar 15, 2019

This sounds really interesting. I remember when this case broke and have thought about it recently.

I love mysteries so I'll watch it and finally dive into the other Netflix true crime shows.

Deleted member 2172 · Mar 15, 2019

Curious to hear more people's thoughts on this and whether it's worth the 8 hour investment

BowieZ · Mar 16, 2019

Nearly done with the first episode. It's obviously exceedingly slow but I think it's trying to transport the viewer to the time and place, and really familiarise yourself with the scenario and all of its characters so you can make more of an informed decision about whether you think the story of an abduction makes sense.

Ether_Snake · Mar 16, 2019

The only good way to make a documentary on this is to get enough money to do an in-depth re-enactment based on all testimonies and investgation, and branching to explore different situations when testimonies or evidence diverges.

IDreamOfHime · Mar 16, 2019

Puroresu_kid said:
I'm not convinced the parents were in on it or somehow managed to dispose of a body but I do feel if the parents were ethnic minority or working-class white the media would have attacked them and blamed them.

But the media did attack and blame them and then got in shit over it.
They won like nearly a million dollars in court from just one of the newspapers.

rude · Mar 16, 2019

Reminder that dogs were already let into the room where she was and detected the presence of both blood and a deceased body. I don't get the point of this doc when it's obvious we'll never find out exactly what happened because her parents are taking their secret to the grave.

Axe · Mar 16, 2019

I've watched the first two episodes, and it just seems to be a straightforward recap of the whole story so far.

DryCreek · Mar 16, 2019

Nothus · Mar 16, 2019

I'm four episodes in so far and if you're interested in the case then it's definitely worth a watch. As with a lot of Netflix shows there is a lot of filler in here to make it stretch to more episodes than is necessary, but I guess that trend isn't going away any time soon.
Episode 3 and 4 is where things started to get more interesting as the focus begins to switch more towards the parents' involvement etc.

They show the footage of the blood/cadaver dogs searching the original flat, another villa the parents stayed in and also the rental car they hired. For some reason I found the footage really unsettling, maybe the reaction of a dog is the closest we'll ever get to knowing what really happened.

FusedAtoms · Mar 16, 2019

God damnit these true crime docs kill my soul

GobHoblin · Mar 16, 2019

Watched the first ep, was really slow and I found myself reaching for my phone too often. Unsure whether to continue

MisterSnrub · Mar 16, 2019

I remember this vividly from growing up. British tabloids went all the fucking way in with their coverage, it was ubiquitous. I used to read my parents/grandparents papers after primary school most days so I remember how huge it was. And even for a missing little blonde girl, the extent of the media attention it got is still crazy to me. I don't think it could happen now. Also I thought then the parents were involved and pretty much still do.

And I don't think I needed or wanted a docco to relive it all either.

Norwegian_Imposter · Mar 16, 2019

I love how the experts are all in agreement about the parents being dodgy as feck

MrCarter · Mar 16, 2019

rude said:
Her parents know what happened and have been visibly annoyed by people being interested in this case.

This is a load of bull. Despite their obvious neglect we have no concrete evidence they were involved in the disappearance. They should have been charged with neglect but then again they had lost a child - which was probably enough punishment for them more than anything else.

Tugatrix · Mar 16, 2019

If Portuguese Police had his way this would have been solved and the parents arrested for negligence and body concealment, but Gordon Brown used his influence to save the friend

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