steejee

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Yeesh. Whoever signed off on using that footage should be in deep shit.

That being said I doubt there were all that many people in the production who were aware of the origin.
 

Vourlis

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not even close to being the same thing

Yeaahhhhh....I think these are a bit different.

Dude this would be like if zod threw an airplane into the actual twin towers footage

I got what you mean but this isnt really the same thing from where I sit. ZS didnt use actual footage from 9/11 news or video cams.

My POV is potentially pretty different though and It reminded me of that. Guess y'all wouldn't have known though. It's fine.

I don't like when directors reference possibly traumatizing moments fairly overtly, and then twist them into their own thing.
 
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This happens. Anyone remember when the Lac-Mégantic rail disaster was appropriated into Bird Box?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/bird-box-netflix-lac-megantic-footage

That said, just because it happens, doesn't make it right. Netflix eventually reversed course a couple of months later, after that article was published.

As for The Creator: Anyone trying to say that the VFX studio just went rogue and snuck it in and neither the studio nor the director had any idea, doesn't understand how these things work.

For a shot like this, reference is provided (even if verbal, like, "remember (x)? go look at videos") by someone, whether it be director or client-side vfx supervisor or post supervisor. Real life stuff is referenced all day every day, like this, out of necessity and a desire (from the audience!) to match reality.

If this all was for a final shot, which I doubt (because the resolution of the source footage is so poor as to stand out blatantly from surrounding shots and elements):

Someone's noted the shot into its current state. It's been reviewed a dozen, two dozen times or more internally and then a handful of times by the studio, client-side folks and yes, the director's seen it a few times as well.

Exception: if a trailer house did it on spec, everything above applies but with much smaller numbers - they might've needed a shot like this, the one in the movie itself contains a massive spoiler or isn't seen for dramatic purposes, so they just whipped something up to suit the trailer. This happens, too.

I guess if they change course, even if it's the former, they could always claim the latter.

Both looks are bad, obviously. But it does make the movie's two most recent threads, which swing between this controversy and, "how can they make a movie look this good for such a relatively low cost", a coldly amusing bit of irony.