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The Creator movie seems to have used footage of Beirut explosion
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not joking: I thought it looked "familiar", I happened to watch a bunch of Beirut footage just a few weeks back. But this is eh.. bad taste at best; and probably not legal?
I suppose it could be legal if they asked the person who filmed it for permission. Morally still pretty questionable considering the amount of lifes lost.
This feels extremely gross to me. Not only is it lazy, it's also disgusting to capitalize on a tragedy like this.
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Gareth Edwards did with Rogue One lots of shots in subway stations where they added in environmental details afterwards. Looking at some of the shots in the trailer, it looks like he's used the same type of workflow for the locations in The Creator, even seemingly reusing the same subway station from Rogue One. Maybe the VFX team used real life sources for their shots to match the aesthetic of Edwards' style and were just stupid enough to use the explosion.
Cmon. I havent done a frame by frame analysis but this looks more like they just took the footage as reference for their VFX.
which most artists do anyways.
like if you want it to be realistic you have to watch the real stuff.
The layout of the buildings looks same but the actual explosion/shockwave looks VFX
which most artists do anyways.
like if you want it to be realistic you have to watch the real stuff.
The layout of the buildings looks same but the actual explosion/shockwave looks VFX
As someone that works at an agency, I always wonder what kinda fucked up heat you get when news of this hits the team that worked on this shot.
The reddit thread that's linked to in the OP does that for you so you don't have to.
If you're looking to speculate, a better question might be whether this shot is actually in the movie, or was rendered specifically for the trailer.
Or whether that serves as a plausible enough excuse to give before pulling that shot out of the movie and replacing it with something fully created in a computer instead.
Some of the buildings in the shot are literal 1 to 1 from the Beirut video.
I dont know if its enough to turn me off to the entire movie but it is in rather poor taste it seems.
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They didn't cover the buildings entirely. Look at the middle building further away and the white structures on top are identical.
There's also this quote from the OP of the Subreddit post:
yeah, this is exactly what it looks like to me, and even passing over the tastelessness of repurposing footage of an actual tragedy for your movie about a robot war, i think it's generally bad form to just trace over your references in a professional project. sloppy
That's so odd
I think they (either studio or trailer house) didnt have completed footage and threw together real quick and inserted these (the immediately previous nuke shot does not look terribly professional as well, it looks like its just stock nuke footage with a cityscape silhouette in front) and figured no one would notice.
I think they (either studio or trailer house) didnt have completed footage and threw together real quick and inserted these (the immediately previous nuke shot does not look terribly professional as well, it looks like its just stock nuke footage with a cityscape silhouette in front) and figured no one would notice.
Same. Getting anxious just thinking about the fallout from this.
There's at least one building there that's absolutely the exact same from one to the next. Definitely not good. That's bad, shotty work to say the least.
It makes a bit more sense considering that with 86 million the budget is relatively small compared to other VFX heavy movies and I imagine painting over a reference shot is a lot cheaper than making all of that from scratch but they should have known that taking a real explosion where people died is not okay.
Not as egregious as this, but I was reminded of how The Road took used real life tragedies to dress the film. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-dec-03-la-et-scene3-2009dec03-story.html
FWIW, I did go back and look at the teaser trailer from 2 months ago and the same shot's there, too (33 second mark).
So I don't know if the "Maybe they rushed a shot for the trailer" hypothetical works as well as folks might hope.
So I don't know if the "Maybe they rushed a shot for the trailer" hypothetical works as well as folks might hope.
As gross as Zack Snyder was with the overtly 9/11 motifs in Man of Steel.
Really really gross and lazy
Really really gross and lazy
Ill wait till the final product and see whether the shot still remains. Trailers/marketing clips sometimes use stock images or videos and then the final film doesn't.
I got what you mean but this isnt really the same thing from where I sit. ZS didnt use actual footage from 9/11 news or video cams.
Dude this would be like if zod threw an airplane into the actual twin towers footage
This isn't "stock footage."
Also trailers don't frequently use "stock footage" like this. This is a VFX shot from the movie that has essentially been completed for over 2 months now because the exact same version of this shot was in the teaser trailer.
They'll probably remove the shot and replace it with something completely different by the time the movie comes out if this makes enough noise. If it doesn't, they probably won't.
Not using a video of an event where real humans actually died seems like an extremely low bar for filmmakers, and yet here we are. 😞
The fact that some buildings seem untouched really tips this over from "referencing the footage" to outright distasteful
If this is purely a marketing call, it's a bad call.
If this is purely a marketing call, it's a bad call.
That is some exceedingly poor taste to say the least.
not even close to being the same thing
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When you look at the gif that StrayDog Posted, your eyes are immediately drawn to the buildings that are in both shots. And it's very obvious it's the exact same footage.
I'm kind of astonished that this was okayed. I could imagine Gareth Edwards suggesting to the VFX team to use it as a reference, but did he okay this for the final film? Did the studio get a hold of test effects, think it looked good, and demand it in the trailer? (Considering directors rarely get creative say over trailers for movies.)
Either way, I can't imagine this shot making it to final film. An absolutely tasteless thing to include, and very quickly dampened my interest in the movie.