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The Book of Boba Fett |OT| Please...speak freely [SPOILERS ON EPISODE DROP - NO LEAKS]
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I might've missed the honorable part but I thought he was just trying to be a different type of crime lord, one ruling with strength but respect instead of outright fear. The jobber just wants things to run smoothly under his watch and get all the money instead of risking his life to go after crazy villains like a dude with a laser sword like the one that killed his dad and one whose friend almost killed him. He didn't want to stop illegal spice trade, he didn't want them attacking the Tuskens and them for access across their lands.
I, honestly, feel like this is an intentional choice because he has so little back story in the films, they decided to deconstruct any myth around him by making him a bit of a joke. It's weird.
To be fair, he was a joke in the films. A guy who couldn't see sent him into the Sarlaac Pit.
Well, that's true.
I think the mythos from the books and the fact he is so mysterious filled a lot of gaps in people's minds but he's always been lame.
Do you like the show so far? Answer is based on that honestly.
This is probably the best episode so far from the standpoint of actually bringing meaning to the "present day" plot structure. The action continues to be somewhere between bad and real bad. Robert Rodriguez also didn't direct it which…helps, honestly. I like him but I don't feel like he's a good fit for this particular show.
I thought he was cooler melted.
For years before the prequels, kids on the playground would tell stories about what Fett looked like under the helmet. Scarred/deformed, grotesque alien, albino white. All that playground talk made the eventual revelation that he's just a dude a bit underwhelming.
So when he was revealed in Mando pale and scarred, I was like hey best of both worlds. Now Boba can still be the same dude plus a lot of visual intrigue under that helmet, sort of fulfilling that childhood imagination. But then they immediately turn right around and go... naw nevermind. So that deflated my balloon.
Probably didn't want to deal with all that makeup every time. But if that were a problem they could keep the helmet on more often, which some people would be happy about anyway.
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People have been saying Phasma was just NuFett since 2015
it's not exactly breaking news
Please look forward to Phasma's Diary coming to Disney+ in 2053
I meant in the lame department.
She was thrown into the TRASH 🗑️
i could give two shits about "fan expectation"
why the fuck should i care about that???
lmao
are you begin deliverately obtuse??
hundreds of characters like these exist.
fucking Poe Dameron himself runnned spice.
Han solo worked for jabba.
i dont get your point??
what is exactly what you want??
to bobba to admit to himself Walter White style, "i did it for myself, i was good at it" or something???
are you new to star wars?
newsflash the rebels are terrorist, and there are hundred of systems that were ok with the empire.
this moral test you want bobba to pass is stupid
Worked is the operative word here. WORKED.
Boba Fett isn't trying to move on from a life of crime, he wants to do MORE crime. This is like saying Walter White is a good guy because he just makes the meth, he's not killing anyone (at the start). Do you not understand how morally wrong it is to be a CRIME LORD? Do you not understand that it is impossible to be a nice CRIME LORD?
I just want to break a few legs for not paying debts, not kill their whole family. See, I'm a good guy. ☺
Are you seriously going to pretend that the idea of a profesional criminal who operates in a gang of criminals but is a good person with a moral line is some sort of unheard of concept?
Once again, that's an honorable THIEF. NOT A CRIME LORD.
A honorable thief can steal from the rich and give to the poor or steal only from criminals. A crime lord literally controls all crime in their area and makes money off of the suffering of others. You cannot be a nice crime lord. Is he going to outlaw the spice trade on Tatooine? Slavery? Gambling? Protection rackets? Loan sharking? Smuggling? Etc.
If so, how is he making money? And how is his job then not just being a governor as opposed to a crime boss?
We LITERALLY saw him when he was with the noble Tusken Raiders approve of the spice trade and only asked the Pykes cut them in on a share when passing through their territory. IS THAT ROBIN HOOD BEHAVIOR?
"Hey yo, it's alright for you to move your heroin through my territory as long as I get a taste of the action. I am very noble and good."
We then saw him in present day walk around Tatooine demanding protection money from all the local businesses. This is good?
Once again, that's an honorable THIEF. NOT A CRIME LORD.
A honorable thief can steal from the rich and give to the poor or steal only from criminals. A crime lord literally controls all crime in their area and makes money off of the suffering of others. You cannot be a nice crime lord. Is he going to outlaw the spice trade on Tatooine? Slavery? Gambling? Protection rackets? Loan sharking? Smuggling? Etc.
If so, how is he making money? And how is his job then not just being a governor as opposed to a crime boss?
We LITERALLY saw him when he was with the noble Tusken Raiders approve of the spice trade and only asked the Pykes cut them in on a share when passing through their territory. IS THAT ROBIN HOOD BEHAVIOR?
"Hey yo, it's alright for you to move your heroin through my territory as long as I get a taste of the action. I am very noble and good."
We then saw him in present day walk around Tatooine demanding protection money from all the local businesses. This is good?
Ok so Robin Hood commanded a bunch of thieves to commit crime to benefit a larger community yes?
You could say that Robin Hood leaded them yes?
So what exactly is the difference between leading a group of people to commit crime to benefit a community and leading a LARGE group of people to commit crime to benefit a LARGER community?
Your point is frankly, ridiculous.
Are you not aware that many drug lords in this very world actually take good care of the communities they hide in?
Does that make them good and noble role models? No. Does it make them well liked in that community and gets people on their side? Yes.
Your entire excuse for your argument is that Boba presents himself as a hero, he isn't and he hasn't. He's just an okay guy criminal. Like thousands of characters before him.
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Once again, that's an honorable THIEF. NOT A CRIME LORD.
A honorable thief can steal from the rich and give to the poor or steal only from criminals. A crime lord literally controls all crime in their area and makes money off of the suffering of others. You cannot be a nice crime lord. Is he going to outlaw the spice trade on Tatooine? Slavery? Gambling? Protection rackets? Loan sharking? Smuggling? Etc.
If so, how is he making money? And how is his job then not just being a governor as opposed to a crime boss?
We LITERALLY saw him when he was with the noble Tusken Raiders approve of the spice trade and only asked the Pykes cut them in on a share when passing through their territory. IS THAT ROBIN HOOD BEHAVIOR?
"Hey yo, it's alright for you to move your heroin through my territory as long as I get a taste of the action. I am very noble and good."
We then saw him in present day walk around Tatooine demanding protection money from all the local businesses. This is good?
Reads like sophistry to be honest.
Never heard of Pablo Escobar? The dude was a narcoterrorist who killed many innocents yet his funeral was attended by over 25,000 people since while evil he actually took care of his community.
Um, 1) I did not say Boba Fett was presenting himself as a hero. I was disagree what he was doing was noble and/or heroic. He obviously doesn't see himself that way and specifically says he's in it for the credits.
2) Again, Robin Hood was not a crime lord that ran protection rackets, drug dealing, sex slavery, and all other manners of illicit and immoral vice.
If only we could all be as noble as Pablo Escobar.
Never said he was noble the point being a crime lord who looks after his community is an archetype rooted in reality. Ultimately the people who attended Escobar's funeral will see him as noble while others will condemn him as a narcoterrorist. People in Star Wars will see Fett as a crime lord while his community will see him as noble.
What Boba is doing is noble and heroic to the people he's helping. Same like what Escobar did was noble and heroic to that community who idolized him despite his brutal methods
That's basically the whole "Honor among thieves" type of characters.
Edit: Boba is more like the Red Hood taking over the drug gangs of Gotham and forbidding all of them from dealing to minors or killing innocents to ensure crime remains under control and make streets safe.
For this season a 5 sounds about right, could go either way with Filoni's episode.
But if there is another season, in a show about Boba making his own tribe/family and examining his own sense of belonging, then you'd have to think the closest thing he has to a genetic sister (seeing as they are both different kinds of clones) would seem like a very relevant thing to explore.
Is it possible that maybe instead of arguing how Boba Fett is a 'pablo escobar vs robin hood character' that maybe.. you know...its not that deep, and the show is really not that well written.
The show has been a mixed bag for me so far, but it's had a lot of moments I've really loved.
The train heist was great, loved the weapon creation scene, loved Thundercat fixing up Fennec, loved the weird kitchen chase scene, love the rancor. Just the pacing is so weird.
Maybe with all the backstory done the pace will pick up and be more coherent.
The train heist was great, loved the weapon creation scene, loved Thundercat fixing up Fennec, loved the weird kitchen chase scene, love the rancor. Just the pacing is so weird.
Maybe with all the backstory done the pace will pick up and be more coherent.
I don't think you understand that trope. Pablo Escobar was not an honorable thief.
But I already said that.
Well no, he was a real life monster.
But the trope for characters usually avoids calling out the character on the worst aspects of their criminal activities.
In a world where we now have to deal with poor wittle innocent Ben Solo who totally didn't mean to murder all those kids and it was all a big misunderstanding (Thanks comics), I feel like Boba being seen as a cool guy who also runs a shady business is much less egregious
Can't we just say they are both bad?
It's like I said earlier, you want to make a show about Boba Fett being a crimelord, you know Star Wars Goodfellas/Sopranos. Well, go right on ahead. But not sure how that would fit within the family friendly setting that is Star Wars. But don't give me a show where he's a crime lord and you pretend this is a good and noble thing because something tells me those Twilek dancers at the casino aren't there willingly.
Can't wait for Mando to show up and make Boba Fett look like Boba Fett at home.
I'm not kidding I'm going to crack up if Din goes full tank mode while Boba is off to the sides getting beaten up by a buff Jawa.
I'm not kidding I'm going to crack up if Din goes full tank mode while Boba is off to the sides getting beaten up by a buff Jawa.
Was the first episode I didn't almost fall asleep during or outright laugh at.
But the whole plot felt like it could have been summed up in a conversation.
I'm all about "show don't tell" but so much of this feels superfluous in a way I've never seen before.
Guess there are 3 more episodes to do... something with the setup?
But the whole plot felt like it could have been summed up in a conversation.
I'm all about "show don't tell" but so much of this feels superfluous in a way I've never seen before.
Guess there are 3 more episodes to do... something with the setup?
Waiting for the inevitable cameo that arbitrarily ties this show into another, like I don't know Cal Kestis shows up or something, maybe it'll even make it interesting to watch.
There was a funny story in the Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina book about a Jawa who wanted revenge on the stormtroopers that killed his clan looking for R2 and C3PO. He makes trades for a blaster and plans to ambush the troopers outside the cantina. He gets drunk to get some courage, finds his spot outside, then at the right moment, jumps out doing his best Tusken yell and pulls the trigger over and over. But it doesn't fire. And it doesn't end well for him. But props for the bravery, little dude.
You're looking at this the wrong way but just assuming that things will be exactly the same under Boba Fett. Like, that's willfully ignoring the story being told. Dude had an extortionist come up to him to complain about some thieves stealing his overpriced water and Boba's reaction was to tell the dude to reduce his prices and hire the thieves. If someone tried to assassinate Jabba they'd be murdered no questions asked as well as the suspects. Etc. etc.
Dude is an extortionist. The series starts with him demanding tribute aka protection money. He then walks around the local businesses collecting said protection money. What do you think happens when the nice Twilek casino owner stops paying him? A kind word and some blue milk?
Also, he didn't stop said extortionist. He merely said to reduce prices, so water dude will still be extorting money for water; just at a slightly more reasonable rate.
I enjoyed the Mandalorian a lot more than this series so far. It just hasn't been as interesting.
I think my biggest issue is the lack of anything interesting going on during the present day so far. Boba just seems to be moseying about with little to no drive to get anything done lol. Hopefully now that all the flashbacks are done the narrative can move forward in a more encouraging way.
I feel like this show is moving at a glacial pace for the amount of story they've told and unfolded. I really liked Episode 2 with the Tuskens, but everything has just been lacking. The idea of a Mos Espa crime families is interesting, the body mods are interesting, but at the same time this stuff feels half fleshed out.
I love slow burn shows (Deadwood, Sopranos, and Mad Men are some of my favorite shows ever) but this show just lacks the meat to warrant it.
I love slow burn shows (Deadwood, Sopranos, and Mad Men are some of my favorite shows ever) but this show just lacks the meat to warrant it.
My thesis that Robert Rodriguez has been the main problem with this show remains intact. Not great that he still has one episode left.
This was a perfectly fine episode, better than a lot of Mandalorian episodes. If nothing else, this show has introduced some of the best droids in years.
Mando is obviously showing up soon. Live action Cad Bane would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath. Omega would've been interesting, but she feels like more of a season 2 introduction, and who knows if that's happening.
This was a perfectly fine episode, better than a lot of Mandalorian episodes. If nothing else, this show has introduced some of the best droids in years.
Mando is obviously showing up soon. Live action Cad Bane would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath. Omega would've been interesting, but she feels like more of a season 2 introduction, and who knows if that's happening.
Dean Cundey still doing good work after all these years.
I bet this is one of the few characters we will be able to see in Galaxy's Edge since wookies do tend to live a long time, as long as he lives into the new trilogy.
There's certainly potential for the finale to this show to be batshit insane, between Boba and his Rancor steed, Krrsantan, Mando, the return of the Tusken warrior, the Hutt twins, the mods, and maybe even Emilia Clarke. There are a lot of fun toys in the toy box here. I just hope Rodriguez isn't directing.
He want's to be a crime lord, again this is not something you just do "honorably". "Guys, can you tone down the murder a little?" He's still taking charge of murderers, drug dealers, protection rackets. His whole honorable villain shtick is cringe, such as his trying work with and deal with slavers. Slavery ok, high water prices? Oh hell naw
The comparison to Robin Hood, good lord Robin Hood was a rebel against a traitor king who stole the throne, he was labeled a thief and did so to fight against the tyranny. The situation does not compare to Boba at all.
episode 4 was a fucking mess too. They legit just decapitated that chef robot doing his best general grievous impression
this show makes me sad
this show makes me sad