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The Book of Boba Fett |OT| Please...speak freely [SPOILERS ON EPISODE DROP - NO LEAKS]

KingSnake

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Miamiwesker said:
In this case it's extremely obvious the reason Luke wasn't there was because if Luke is there then the show is about Luke. They wrote themselves into a corner and they wanted Grogu back with Mando before the episode was out and they couldn't have Luke so this is what they came up with.

Unless this is a storyline going forward where they acknowledge Luke being an ass for sending Grogu alone, I refuse to even think about it from a lore perspective, it's clearly the writers just being stuck.
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There was no need to make the reunion having place on a planet that was in the middle of a mob war. It cut down the emotional impact of Mando and Grogu being back together by having Mando being busy fighting and it made Luke an asshole.
They could have done it properly in episode 1 of season 3 of Mandalorian instead of this.
 
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Super-Volt said:
It's real. Spinning is a good trick!
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a916

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The Silver said:
The thing is that the Tuskans are/were Boba's people, they're outsiders to the rest of the planet, seen as savages to be avoided. Even Obi-Wan was racist against the Tuskans.

Boba shouldn't really be giving a shit about the other random people of Tatooine, he has zero connection to them. His goal could've been doing something about the other Tuskan tribes, he could've been all about giving the planet back to its original inhabitants or at least ensuring they were finally respected.
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Yeah, like they definitely built that connection, the one between the Tuskans and Boba, but the people in Mos Eisley aren't Tuskans, and infact, like you said, Tuskans are outsiders. So it never felt like people of Mos Eisely were his people.

They had two episodes where they could've done something about it (the ones dedicated to Mando) or I guess all the episodes where Boba could see how bad things were and that he wanted to help. Just strange.
 
Miamiwesker

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KingSnake said:
There was no need to make the reunion having place on a planet that was in the middle of a mob war. It cut down the emotional impact of Mando and Grogu being back together by having Mando being busy fighting and it made Luke an asshole.
They could have done it properly in episode 1 of season 3 of Mandalorian instead of this.
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I am not arguing that at all, I think the writing was very poor and bringing Grogu back so fast removes the emotional impact of last season. I'm simply saying I'm not going to put any of this on Luke as a character cause it's just the writers being dumb.
 
Persephone

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I've been waiting for the Din & Grogu reunion and I'm glad they're back together but this was so underwhelming. it should have happened in private and not in the middle of a goofy chase with Peli snarking about how touching it is. auhhrhghgg
 
RandomSeed

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All those spins and everything is just Rodriguez. Like in Desperado, Banderas's character making the punching motions and stuff when shooting, like he's curving the bullets, or adding more velocity to it. It worked there, but here, not so much. There was another shot that probably worked better that he's used before, when Mando and Fett shot the guy off the building and kept unloading on him as he fell. The overkill of it, heh.
 
Dalek

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Persephone said:
I've been waiting for the Din & Grogu reunion and I'm glad they're back together but this was so underwhelming. it should have happened in private and not in the middle of a goofy chase with Peli snarking about how touching it is. auhhrhghgg
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I 100% agree with this. The departure was so emotional and the reunion is just stuck in the middle of this ridiculous sequence.
 
BossAttack

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RandomSeed said:
All those spins and everything is just Rodriguez. Like in Desperado, Banderas's character making the punching motions and stuff when shooting, like he's curving the bullets, or adding more velocity to it. It worked there, but here, not so much. There was another shot that probably worked better that he's used before, when Mando and Fett shot the guy off the building and kept unloading on him as he fell. The overkill of it, heh.
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That's the thing, Desperado is an incredibly stylized film. It works there. And hell, if you want to make Star Wars El Mariachi please proceed. But like this series is not incredibly stylized, it is in fact often quite boring and sterile. So then you suddenly throw in spins and akimbo blaster shooting and I'm just like, "huh?!" Is this a semi-serious Western or stylized Desperado?
 
firehawk12

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a916 said:
Yeah, like they definitely built that connection, the one between the Tuskans and Boba, but the people in Mos Eisley aren't Tuskans, and infact, like you said, Tuskans are outsiders. So it never felt like people of Mos Eisely were his people.

They had two episodes where they could've done something about it (the ones dedicated to Mando) or I guess all the episodes where Boba could see how bad things were and that he wanted to help. Just strange.
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The weird thing is that they had Cad Bane point out that Fett worked with the Space Nazis but then they don't actually address that dichotomy in any meaningful way.

Like they just did a story about an ex-Imperial guy in the Mandalorian, so they could have just redone that storyline with Fett atoning for his past or whatever.
 
super-famicom

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Fennec had a sniper rifle but just stood on the ground floor with Fett and Mando. She fired from an elevated position when saving the mod squad, but she could have done that from the very start...
 
Duane

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Yeah, for what it's worth, Boba was living in Mos Espa for at least the last ten years before the events of the show. Maybe longer.

Also note that Mos Eisley and Mos Espa are two different cities on Tatooine. Anakin grew up in Mos Espa, Luke grew up in Mos Eisley. They don't seem to be TOO far apart, but it took Fennec however long the episode was to travel between the two.

Both cities seem to be complete shit holes, but Mos Eisley seems to be worse. Mos Espa seems a little more metropolitan maybe, and somewhat bigger. Espa was Jabba's seat of power with his palace just outside the city. Espa also has the sweet pod racing track. And that casino seems better than anything that would be in Mos Eisley.

Also, teens in Espa look like this:

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whereas teens in Eisley look like this:

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So I guess Eisley is a little more rural. Granted the latter pic is ten years earlier.
 
John Harker

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firehawk12 said:
The weird thing is that they had Cad Bane point out that Fett worked with the Space Nazis but then they don't actually address that dichotomy in any meaningful way.

Like they just did a story about an ex-Imperial guy in the Mandalorian, so they could have just redone that storyline with Fett atoning for his past or whatever.
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Honestly his fascination with tattooine never made sense from the start really. He's not from there. He took 1 job from Jabba, not like he worked for him. The dude is a Roamer. He already got vengeance for the Tuskens. Why did he stick around? He had his ship back, he had money, why would he slum it on a planet that's only ever screwed him or tried to melt him?
 
Duane

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John Harker said:
Honestly his fascination with tattooine never made sense from the start really. He's not from there. He took 1 job from Jabba, not like he worked for him. The dude is a Roamer. He already got vengeance for the Tuskens. Why did he stick around? He had his ship back, he had money, why would he slum it on a planet that's only ever screwed him or tried to melt him?
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Weeelllllll...

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firehawk12

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John Harker said:
Honestly his fascination with tattooine never made sense from the start really. He's not from there. He took 1 job from Jabba, not like he worked for him. The dude is a Roamer. He already got vengeance for the Tuskens. Why did he stick around? He had his ship back, he had money, why would he slum it on a planet that's only ever screwed him or tried to melt him?
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I feel like we missed an arc where he cares about these people the same way he cares about the Tuskens.

To be honest, he should have been the one to help Raylan Givens in the Mandalorian to have him build a bond with Freetown. But since they already did that story with Din, it all just feels redundant. I suppose we're supposed to care about the Mods, but since they've become like JarJar, I don't know who actually cared if they died or not.
 
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Morrigan

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Fj0823 said:
Yeah, and the spinning gif and the luke kick gif and...

It's so predictable a this point.

"We want SOMETHING NEW"
Immediately after
"Too clean, doesn't FEEL like Star Wars, well IN MY MIND this worked differently, ugh it's from a dumb comic/cartoon I've never seen?"

You could make a bingo card out of Star Wars fandom.

And then they wonder how we got TROS.

I agree with criticism on how this show worked structurally and how the character motivations are flimsy.

But good GOD we haven't grown out of RLM media dumb aesthetic and superficial criticism even after they came out as sexist pricks. We're still using their bar.
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What an incredibly disingenuous post. Holy shit. Good job on completely misrepresenting criticism. FFS, the problems with this show are actually quite similar to those with TROS, but sure, critics here are TROS fans 😂

N'importe quoi.
 
molnizzle

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The whole show was redundant. This shit didn't need to exist after they pivoted and made Mando a different guy (clearly that show started as a Boba Fett show). What a waste, this could've been Mando season 3.

firehawk12 said:
I feel like we missed an arc where he cares about these people the same way he cares about the Tuskens.

To be honest, he should have been the one to help Raylan Givens in the Mandalorian to have him build a bond with Freetown. But since they already did that story with Din, it all just feels redundant. I suppose we're supposed to care about the Mods, but since they've become likes JarJar, I don't know who actually cared if they died or not.
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I was pretty mad they lived. They killed the pigs but the worthless mods get to survive. Ugh.
 
sfedai0

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Would it have been that hard to get a series about a bad ass bounty hunter hunting down bounties in this supposed big galaxy? Instead we have to watch this dude go through a redemption arc atoning for his sins on the seemingly only desert planet in the universe.

We already got a middling straight laced bounty hunter show in the Mando.
 
Loxley

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Gustaf said:
you have seen how they have treated the throne room from TLJ

there is no pleasing them
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The constant whining about throne room fight is a textbook example of the "bitch eating crackers" meme. Because people despise TLJ so much, every single aspect of it must be terrible. The throne room fight is, by Star Wars standards, a pretty good fight sequence. But because it's attached to TLJ, it's somehow the worst goddamn thing in cinema history, with countless YouTube videos about how terrible it is.

Meanwhile, the prequel fights, which were ridiculed for over a decade for being weightless, floaty, and lacking emotional heft, are now all suddenly brilliant for some reason.

The u-turn that the Star Wars fanbase has done on the prequels in the wake of Rian Johnson killing Luke just feels so damn disingenuous.
 
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Loxley said:
The constant whining about throne room fight is a textbook example of the "bitch eating crackers" meme. Because people despise TLJ so much, every single aspect of it must be terrible. The throne room fight is, by Star Wars standards, a pretty good fight sequence. But because it's attached to TLJ, it's somehow the worst goddamn thing in cinema history, with countless YouTube videos about how terrible it is.

Meanwhile, the prequel fights, which were ridiculed for over a decade for being weightless, floaty, and lacking emotional heft, are now all suddenly brilliant for some reason.

The u-turn that the Star Wars fanbase has done on the prequels in the wake of Rian Johnson killing Luke just feels so damn disingenuous.
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i dont remember which poster said that "it gave him life, to see professinal stunt performers "destroy" the throne room scene from TLJ"

but damn, that is fucking dedication to hating something alright
 
Poodlestrike

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TBH until literally right now I had no idea that people were crapping on the throne room scene. I thought that even as Those Fucking Neckbeards tore down TLJ, that that and the visuals (at least) of the Hondo Maneuver were regarded as "pretty cool" at worst.
 
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Duane said:
Also, teens in Espa look like this:

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Just hit me what the Mods reminded me of that kept bugging me, they look like they could be a gang from The Warriors. They actually should remake it in the SW universe with the mods running around on Coruscant if they haven't got their own spin-off yet.
 
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Osahi said:
I hated that mechanic lady in Mando, she didn't improve here at all, lol. Just a really annoying character :P
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Something about her and other new supporting characters really bugs me. They don't feel like 'Star Wars' characters. It's like they are real life people plucked into that universe, something I feel like the main characters don't suffer from.
Star Wars is such a fantastical universe that has a certain and very specific style but these.. side characters, mostly humans, but some aliens too, just don't really fit. I can't put a finger on it.
 
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egg said:
What's funny to me about this is that Krrsantan is being carried because his foot is fucked up and he's limping due to being badly injured and the guy literally throws him off his shoulders to do the spin lmao.
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GungHo said:
Krrsantan is probably 500 lbs of meat and fur to boot.
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Yeah, Krrsantan is probably closer to 800 pounds with all his armor and guns haha. No way those 2 could carry him.
Also regarding that girl mod with the arm; I never realized that she doesn't even have an entirely modified arm. Its just her elbow. Who gets a robot elbow!!?
 
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Miamiwesker said:
I am not arguing that at all, I think the writing was very poor and bringing Grogu back so fast removes the emotional impact of last season. I'm simply saying I'm not going to put any of this on Luke as a character cause it's just the writers being dumb.
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I mean of course, but you can't head canon what Luke did here away, any more than I can head canon away the entirety of TroS 😄

Based on the New Trilogy, we know Luke failed as a teacher and for recreating a new, sustainable Jedi Order. In Episode 6, we see how bad he sucks by making Grogu choose between his Jedi training and leaving Mando dad, proving Luke learned nothing about emotional connections. In Episode 7 we see he's further fallen off the deep end by sending a baby force user off on his own.
It's shit writing but that's what we got! 🤷‍♂️

The ONLY way they redeem that is if we find out Grogu just snuck off on his own with the chain mail (and maybe Yodas saber) and hightailed it while Luke was asleep.
 
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Poodlestrike said:
TBH until literally right now I had no idea that people were crapping on the throne room scene. I thought that even as Those Fucking Neckbeards tore down TLJ, that that and the visuals (at least) of the Hondo Maneuver were regarded as "pretty cool" at worst.
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It goes on and on over dumb thing you wouldn´t criticize in any other movie unless you´re cinemasins

"He he look at them taking turns"
"A sword disappears between shots for a split second"
"The guards that are not in focus are just bumbling around"
"This move done for flare would get them killed in real life!"

It's so dumb.
 
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Tonswelt said:
Something about her and other new supporting characters really bugs me. They don't feel like 'Star Wars' characters. It's like they are real life people plucked into that universe, something I feel like the main characters don't suffer from.
Star Wars is such a fantastical universe that has a certain and very specific style but these.. side characters, mostly humans, but some aliens too, just don't really fit. I can't put a finger on it.
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They seem like they are in a completely different universe. Like they belong on Big Bang Theory with the delivery of their lines. They stand out, quite a bit, and it's jarring.
 
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Persephone said:
I've been waiting for the Din & Grogu reunion and I'm glad they're back together but this was so underwhelming. it should have happened in private and not in the middle of a goofy chase with Peli snarking about how touching it is. auhhrhghgg
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Meet in private? Boring!

NostroDalek said:
I 100% agree with this. The departure was so emotional and the reunion is just stuck in the middle of this ridiculous sequence.
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The reunion was just as emotional with an added real reaction of wtf?!
 
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Fj0823 said:
It goes on a on over dumb thing you would criticize in any movie

"He he look at them taking turns"
"A sword disappears between shots for a split second"
"The guards that are not in focus are just bumbling around"
"This move done for flare would get them killed in real life!"

It's so dumb.
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The throne room fight is poorly choreographed. Don't know why you're so defensive over it.
Ridley and Driver were not up to executing a fight scene like that.
 
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