Well i meant that once you know how to kill one they should all be similar.
She even said let me know what the legion terminator is about so she can prepare. Shes been killing terminators for 20+ years.
Well i meant that once you know how to kill one they should all be similar.
Personally I felt the movie worked for me on many levels.
- Cameron, Hamilton and Schwarzenegger were involved
- Tim Miller did a decent job as director
- the movie showed that T2 did indeed change the future and victory was had against Skynet (but you know this thing called causality)
- Because Skynet was defeated completely, there's nothing special about John Connor or even Sarah Connor, they're just regular people albeit Sarah is a BMF
- opens the door for new characters and sequels and new ideas without being tied to the series' past, like you know, Star Wars' sequels
- Legion coming up to replace Skynet makes sense, because making AI like that is certainly not uncommon, especially nowadays, and AI sentience is something many people in tech do fear, like Elon Musk.
- Legion coming up with killer robots called terminators isn't lazy, what else would they call it? (Not to forget movie branding purposes) also they're still infiltration units so they need to have a human-like build anyway.
- Linda Hamilton really helped the movie shine, she's really integral to the series and many people forget that for whatever reason. She also has top billing too.
- the crappy sequels hurt this movie a lot but without the crappy sequels we probably wouldn't have seen this movie to begin with
They weren't actually called Terminators. Grace didn't even know what they were. She just called them Rev-9s until later on, when I guess Terminator was catchier.
Ah, good one, you're right about that. Also isn't the T in T-800/whatever Terminator? Cyberdyne/Skynet called them as such?
T-101 isn't just a machine it is a real dynamic AI. It is sent back with a different mission than the mission the T-101s are usually assigned. It was sent back with the mission to assassinate John, not to eradicate humanity. Once that was done it had no other mission and was free to do whatever it wanted. And so it did what any intelligent creature would; it observed, learned, and found purpose.I found it barely better than Genisys. Hit a lot of the some plot beats as well - daylight car chase, captured by the authorities, aerial chase, last stand at industrial place. Benefited from not being encumbered with nano-Connor and having Grace's actress instead of Emilia Clarke.
I simply don't buy the T-101's character change after completing its mission.
Also, the cinema-going experience needs to die. Hell is other people.
Movie respects the antagonist. He doesn't actually get within range to kill her until he is badly damaged and weakened. Someone is always interrupting him so it's not like he's just inept. This is a problem that other movies in the franchise after Cameron have had.Just came back from watching this. Is was certainly better than all the Terminator films after 2 but its still not right. Just too much trying to make quips, and cheer things up. I just wish they would just go dark like T2 was. They managed to have a really solid Terminator that stalked them the entire film, really cool looking and super efficient but go damn Skynet/Legion is rubbish at doing its job. It really needs to give up the whole 'send stuck back in time to kill stuff.' Its clearly not working out haha.
Did not see them killing off John so early and then utterly invalidate it by just making the girl the new John. Way to make a death that the Terminator franchise has been pushing for years, feel utterly pointless and shallow.
The worst part is he keeps endorcing these movies. And of course we believe him because we're just dying to see a new good Terminator film since 1992, alas... :(Another bad Terminator sequel. Aside from 2-3 lines a piece from Arnold and Linda, everything good about this is in the trailers.
That said, it's still the third best Terminator movie. Fuck James Cameron for making the greatest action movie when I was like 10 years old and handcuffing me to this shitty, shitty franchise. Have I not suffered enough?
I hate to say it too, because I love Arnold, but an older Arnold just isn't the same type of screen presence as the 80s/90s version and I think the Terminator movies don't really work anywhere near as well without that.
Father time is undefeated.
He's still funny/charming, but largely Arnold as the Terminator these days is a punch line.
It's a line from Genisys.He's still very personable, but for the role of the Terminator, I don't think it really works anymore. The Terminator needs to be larger than life.
I don't think they will do a terminator that draws attention because of how it looks because it never made any sense. It always defeated the purpose of infiltration.He's still very personable, but for the role of the Terminator, I don't think it really works anymore. The Terminator needs to be larger than life.
I don't think they will do a terminator that draws attention because of how it looks because it never made any sense. It always defeated the purpose of infiltration.
The worst part is he keeps endorcing these movies. And of course we believe him because we're just dying to see a new good Terminator film since 1992, alas... :(
I agree with every single one of these. I saw the movie in 4DX and would be lying if I said I didn't shed a few tears by the end over how overwhelming it was.Personally I felt the movie worked for me on many levels.
- Cameron, Hamilton and Schwarzenegger were involved
- Tim Miller did a decent job as director
- the movie showed that T2 did indeed change the future and victory was had against Skynet (but you know this thing called causality)
- Because Skynet was defeated completely, there's nothing special about John Connor or even Sarah Connor, they're just regular people albeit Sarah is a BMF
- opens the door for new characters and sequels and new ideas without being tied to the series' past, like you know, Star Wars' sequels
- Legion coming up to replace Skynet makes sense, because making AI like that is certainly not uncommon, especially nowadays, and AI sentience is something many people in tech do fear, like Elon Musk.
- Legion coming up with killer robots called terminators isn't lazy, what else would they call it? (Not to forget movie branding purposes) also they're still infiltration units so they need to have a human-like build anyway.
- Linda Hamilton really helped the movie shine, she's really integral to the series and many people forget that for whatever reason. She also has top billing too.
- the crappy sequels hurt this movie a lot but without the crappy sequels we probably wouldn't have seen this movie to begin with
is the Mexican Terminator Theme out anywhere? I can't find it.
When the trailer showed Mackenzie Davis's character being augmented and more machine-like I thought for sure this movie was going to do something thought-provoking with that concept - that the humans need to become more like the machines to defeat them, furthering blurring the lines between them but alas she was just a superhero basically
I agree with every single one of these. I saw the movie in 4DX and would be lying if I said I didn't shed a few tears by the end over how overwhelming it was.
It helped to go into the film praying to your deity for it to not be as awful as every film post-T2. The plot wasn't really anything special, but as a nice coda to one of my absolute favorite films of my childhood, it delivered. The heart and soul of the series belongs to Linda Hamilton and Arnold Shwartzenegger, and this felt like seeing a long lost relative for a final time, and having the closure to truly say goodbye.
Might have been a relatively shallow film compared to the heady concepts of T1/T2, but I was totally onboard for the ride. Helped that Mackenzie Davis was beefed out and the themes of boss-ass women and border politics hit a sensitive spot for me. Having Dani say her final vengeance line in spanish and adding a guitar to the Terminator theme during the credits was a perfect touch.
Yea I hated this. I hated the intro, I hated the choppy ass action, I hated the fact that they showed virtually no restraint in any of the action sequences, and I hated how stupidly sappy it was in certain areas. Miller should have shut his mouth about the thumbs up scene in T2 as "For John" is infinitely worse.
Thank god this franchise is terminated.
That Terminator is out there! It won't stop! It doesn't feel pain, remorse or —
Dark Fate: "Let me stop you right there, Reese."
Yep it was a pretty bad movie. I think it has to be one of the worst castings for a movie I've ever seen.
I agree with every single one of these. I saw the movie in 4DX and would be lying if I said I didn't shed a few tears by the end over how overwhelming it was.
It helped to go into the film praying to your deity for it to not be as awful as every film post-T2. The plot wasn't really anything special, but as a nice coda to one of my absolute favorite films of my childhood, it delivered. The heart and soul of the series belongs to Linda Hamilton and Arnold Shwartzenegger, and this felt like seeing a long lost relative for a final time, and having the closure to truly say goodbye.
Might have been a relatively shallow film compared to the heady concepts of T1/T2, but I was totally onboard for the ride. Helped that Mackenzie Davis was beefed out and the themes of boss-ass women and border politics hit a sensitive spot for me. Having Dani say her final vengeance line in spanish and adding a guitar to the Terminator theme during the credits was a perfect touch.
Same, but they don't have to recast Eddie Furlong, he could just get back in shape.
Anyway this thread is too long to read, but it was all James Cameron's idea.
John Connor has never been the hero in the movies actual timeline. His judgement day never happens as a result of Sarah heroism. John's death did serve a purpose though. His death creates Carl and creates the Sarah/Carl team that delays humanity's fight against against annihilationWhy the hell did he think that it was a good idea? I could understand subverting the audience's expectations if you wanted to go in a completely different direction but killing John Connor just to replace him with another John Connor-esque character being hunted by a Skynet-esque AI is really, really stupid.
Yep. Had the same issue with RLM's review as well. They say they love T2, yet keep conveniently forgetting huge chunks of it when it suits them. The Terminator in T2 changed dramatically over the course of a few days with John, yet they complain about another Terminator growing something resembling a conscience over a couple of decades.Terminator 2: For if a machine, a Terminator, can learn the value of human life; maybe we can too.
The whole Carl's family arc made me think of this scene from T2:Yep. Had the same issue with RLM's review as well. They say they love T2, yet keep conveniently forgetting huge chunks of it when it suits them.