Same reason Skynet didn't go after John's ancestorsWhy would "not Skynet, really we swear" not go after Dani's ancestors (any of them, but that can just be her dad or mother/ both) ?
Same reason Skynet didn't go after John's ancestorsWhy would "not Skynet, really we swear" not go after Dani's ancestors (any of them, but that can just be her dad or mother/ both) ?
Only his mother not all his ancestors (not even his father)
Probably a lack of accurate records. They never knew who Johns father was, if they knew the names of Sarahs parents would they know accurately where and when they lived?
The way I understood it, is that once the units were sent back in time they are kinda stuck in limbo. Outside of any timeline. Like Sarah said, the T-800s came to complete a mission for a future that didn't exist anymore. Skynet must have eventually figured it had sent enough, that with it dealing with the humans all the time.Hold on I'm confused; where did the T-800 come from at the start of the movie?
If they stopped Skynet in T2, there wouldn't be a future where it existed and sent a T-800 back.
If something else took it's place (which did; Legion) then it didn't make a Cyberdyne Systems terminator, it made it's own versions up to what is now a Rev9.
I guess the easy answer would be to say they didn't just send a T-1000 back in '95, or something I'm missing.
The way I understood it, is that once the units were sent back in time they are kinda stuck in limbo. Outside of any timeline. Like Sarah said, the T-800s came to complete a mission for a future that didn't exist anymore.
Think of it this way, once Skynet sends something back, it's outside of any possible timeline. It doesn't exist until it re-enters time. Despite Skynet being wiped out from existence, there was still a time where it was able to send Terminators back, and these units were in time stasis unnafected by Skynet's demise. Until they popped up and Carl sent Sarah after themThey would have had to have been sent back before the timeline changed to where skynet longer exists.
If skynet was really over, there would be no sending back skynet models, only legion models.
They don't really make that clear.
Think of it this way, once Skynet sends something back, it's outside of any possible timeline. It doesn't exist until it re-enters time. Despite Skynet being wiped out from existence, there was still a time where it was able to send Terminators back, and these units were in time stasis unnafected by Skynet's demise. Until they popped up and Carl sent Sarah after them
So every time they stop Judgment Day some other corporation is going to inevitably create AI and robots.
It's never not going to be a future without an apocalypse.
Humanity as a whole is never any wiser about the machine threat.
That's exactly that James Cameron said in interviews. The point of this new trilogy is how to stop humanity from making new goddamn killer AIs. Otherwise it'll just keep happening over and over.
She could've possibly been back in the third movie I'd say, playing herself before she got augmented.I wonder if in the next movie Dani will be leading an underground resistance group that is seen as terrorisim, with tech companies already manufacturing proto terminators to fight against Dani. Just wondering whether they can bring back Davis without going the time travel route again. Maybe someone found her remains and reverse engineer her into a full terminator.
I am half-expecting the next one to also be a direct sequel to T2.
Eehhhhh this sounds like some wibbly wobbly timey wimey explanation.
There's never been any indication of, and I don't know if you literally mean; time stasis.
When the T-1000 and T-800 get sent back in T2 it was sent from a time where Judgement Day still could have happened, could have being the operative term.
They then stopped Skynet from ever existing, period, so much so the future where things get sent from is now Legion controlled because something else started judgement day. As far as we know from the film, Legion doesn't make T-800 models.
I don't think any movie has ever had that version of Skynet ever send something back after it had been defeated, only before; because that's how it should work.
I'm not trying to argue btw, I'm trying to understand if I seem a little combative :)
I've never watched any time-travel related media until this film and not understood it, mostly down to the specifics.
Even though it isn't real, most media can explain it. This seems out of the ordinary for Terminator.
To quite a certain movie, your past becomes your presentIt's not that wibbly-wobbly. Time travel in Dark Fate just operates under the notion that time loops and grandfather paradoxes are not possible. It's a less-often seen time travel principle in fiction, but it's not unheard of.
1/ In Timeline A, Skynet sends Terminators to different points in time to kill Sarah and John.
2/ Then, and only then, things happen in those different points in time, resulting in the nullification of Timeline A and the creation of a Timeline B.
There is no time loop here. Event 1 leads to Event 2. Event 2 doesn't loop back to Event 1 or erases it or anything; it doesn't work like that in Dark Fate.
Basically, in Dark Fate, if I were sent back to kill my grandfather, I wouldn't be erased from existence. The timeline where I was born would be erased, but not the time-traveling me.
This is why you have those T-800s popping out on the timeline (on Timeline B) despite their original timeline (Timeline A) having been nullified.
It's not that wibbly-wobbly. Time travel in Dark Fate just operates under the notion that time loops and grandfather paradoxes are not possible. It's a less-often seen time travel principle in fiction, but it's not unheard of.
1/ In Timeline A, Skynet sends Terminators to different points in time to kill Sarah and John.
2/ Then, and only then, things happen in those different points in time, resulting in the nullification of Timeline A and the creation of a Timeline B.
There is no time loop here. Event 1 leads to Event 2. Event 2 doesn't loop back to Event 1 or erases it or anything; it doesn't work like that in Dark Fate.
Basically, in Dark Fate, if I were sent back to kill my grandfather, I wouldn't be erased from existence. The timeline where I was born would be erased, but not the time-traveling me.
This is why you have those T-800s popping out on the timeline (on Timeline B) despite their original timeline (Timeline A) having been nullified.
that T-800 could've been sent much earlier, just finally found his target in 1998.Ah so, skynet was always going to send the T-800 around 1998, so that's why that one got John, and why many kept popping up years later.
Even though from Sarah point of view, judgement day ended thus skynet no longer exists, it had already sent one to '98 regardless.
That's, sort of annoying, because even though you literally did change the future, another future is still fucking with you.
that T-800 could've been sent much earlier, just finally found his target in 1998.
Yeah, I'd say that's most plausible.That's what I said 7 hours ago and seems the most plausible, that skynet sent multiple contingencies.
Also the t-800 sending sarah messages about terminators showing up, we don't know if those were skynet and legion, or just legion.
I assume just legion, going through different gen terminators.
But question is why would he send her to the bridge and not where they "dropped".
As Carl says later on, he can "feel" time displacements (or something?),
That one plot point is weird because wouldn't the T1 Terminator have sensed Kyle and wouldn't the T-2 Terminator and the T-1000 have sensed each other? Unless we're supposed to assume they did but it didn't impact the plot of those films.
Was thinking it was more that the time bubbles have a very unique traceable signature that Carl learned over time to recognize, rather than it just being a built in feature.That one plot point is weird because wouldn't the T1 Terminator have sensed Kyle and wouldn't the T-2 Terminator and the T-1000 have sensed each other? Unless we're supposed to assume they did but it didn't impact the plot of those films.
"Dark fate".I think the people in charge, Tim, James, even Arnie, they all knew that it was probably going to bomb regardless of the quality of the movie.
Best action sequences?
The Grace vs Rev-9 fight in the factory and the subsequent highway chase were definitely my faves. The 3-on-1 fight with Sarah, Arnie and Grace against the Rev-9 at the end follows close behind.
I really loved Punished Sarah, Linda Hamilton nailed it. Her reaction when "Carl" sacrifices himself was perfect, got my spine-tingling.