Didn't know she was white and just loved there was an African woman playing a major role in AAA game.
Now imagine if an actual African actress got to play that part.
Didn't know she was white and just loved there was an African woman playing a major role in AAA game.
Not necessarily, no one ever batted an eye at Troy Baker playing a native american man. I really hope going into next gen devs do better when it comes to casting. SP already is considering that none of the cast of GoT is white. ND has also done a way better job with TLOU2's casting.Lol at that poll. If this wasn't Naughty Dog they would be destroyed everywhere for doing this.
Both Kratos' are voiced by black men.Black characters NEVER are casted for other races. This is straight up wrong.
where is that quote from?
Ross is played by white actor Laura Bailey, and this caused some controversy in the wake of The Game Awards; people of colour are pretty under-represented in voice acting. Director Neil Druckmann met this question head-on, saying the Bailey was chosen after a general casting call was made. He said the development team was worried about the casting too, but that he elected to go with it after seeing Bailey's performance in-game.
Druckmann said that not having cast actors based on their physical appearances is a strength of video games as a medium, as with Troy Baker's role as Joel in The Last of Us, and that elsewhere in Uncharted 4 there's a white character played by a black voice actor.
Uncharted 4 PSX panel reveals more about Nadine Ross, addresses casting controversy
Uncharted 4 features an ass-kicking South African mercenary.www.vg247.com
"I wouldn't change anything," Uncharted 4 creative director Neil Druckmann said during a panel today at the PlayStation Experience event in San Francisco, when asked about having a white actress play a black character in the upcoming PS4 game. The casting had drawn some controversy in the last two days, since the character's debut, but Druckmann said he saw the casting as a sign of gaming's distinct strengths.
"That, to me, is what's so awesome about our medium," he continued, describing the ability to have actors play characters that don't look like them. "Your awkward appearance doesn't matter at all. If it did, Troy [Baker] couldn't play Joel in The Last of Us. Ashley Johnson couldn't play Ellie. In a movie version they couldn't play those roles, but they played them to perfection."
Uncharted 4 Designer Stands By Having White Actor Voice Black Character
“I wouldn’t change anything,” Uncharted 4 creative director Neil Druckmann said during a panel today at the PlayStation Experience event in San Francisco, when asked about having a white actress play a black character in the upcoming PS4 game. The casting had drawn some controversy in the last...kotaku.com
I didn't play this game but did apartheid have no bearing on her character at all? That would seem like a pretty central part to a South African character that age and a big identifyer of what race she is.If I remember correctly Bailey got the job, and then they finished the characters design. This is not Bailey's fault in any way. She simply got a job. The design team or the director should've had a better idea of how the character would look beforehand so this controversy could've been all avoided.
Laura Bailey's response to this controversy.
Thinking about systemic issues doesn't seem to be Neil's strong suit as a writer. Apparently TLOU2's story and themes of revenge came from him accidentally seeing footage of a lynching as a kid. Like, bro, lynchings weren't a matter of personal grudges and revenge
"I don't want to go into specifics about it, but I saw a video of a lynching when I was much younger" Druckmann said in a GQ interview. "It was like an actual… like a news thing. And then, feeling intense hatred for the people that committed the lynching and thinking, like, 'oh man if I could hurt these people in some horrible ways then I could.'"
Black characters NEVER are casted for other races. This is straight up wrong.
It's not a good look and they should have recast of change the character's skin colour. Imho.
However why bring this up at this right now?
Laura Bailey is being harassed on twitter right now because she played a muscled character in TLOU2.
In fact people are photoshooting images saying that Druckman stepped in to mocap a sex scene with her.
The fact that there are so few chances for minority actors to get a gig in game voice acting at all makes it feel bad. Laura Bailey is on Nolan North, and Troy Baker's level of voicing any and every character. While she sounded different for this character hearing her for the TLOU2 character just made me think of some of her other characters, especially Saints Row.
im quoting op. wtf lol
I think it's a bit strange to treat VA the same as IRL acting when it comes to things like this. This isn't even a GHOST IN THE SHELL caliber blunder, considering the model was finalized after she was cast. Ideally, I would have loved for a black VA to get the shine that comes from starring in a ND joint, but I'm not going to kill the studio for this.
I hope we get a black lead in a ND game. They're games cross over in a way that so few do, so it would be a great look. IW brought Gaz back as a black British dude and they survived. No more excuses in this industry.
Why are you stunned at the poll results ?Just now learning about this.... what the fuck. I'm stunned at the poll results in this thread.
I don't blame her for the performance. I blame her for not respectfully stepping down when the character design came out. She already did the work, so she would've been paid anyways, but the role needed to be recast.
And I especially blame Neil Druckmann for writing a character who grew up DURING APARTHEID IN FUCKING SOUTH AFRICA and not knowing whether the character was black or white until after recording their fucking voice acting.
There was literally a thread about this and all over Twitter to the point that Naughty Dog was trending. They didn't get a free pass.
Something that bothers me in some media is having a Latino character who is supposed to speak perfect Spanish, but their accent is either very rough or it happens to be from another country that is not their own (because the actor is, for example, Cuban, but the character is Mexican or something like that, that shit's jarring).
This is so messed up. ND basically doesn't give a damn about diversity, they just want to act like they do.
it's astounding. how is NO not a common sense answer.
While I get that they designed Nadine after casting Laura Bailey, they should have recasted the role after Nadine's design was finalized.
Yes but that really isn't any different than what happened with Nadine, where they cast a white actress before defining the character, then made her a black character without changing the actress. Same goes for Chloe, they retconned her into being Indian but kept the white voice actress. There is 0 reason why they should recast Nadine but not Chloe, both characters have the same issue.which makes sense as her Indian heritage was a retcon added in Lost Legacy, so for the previous 4 games she was straight up white as far as anyone knew
The voiceover industry, especially for AAA games, is super-incestuous. It's why you hear the same ten to twelve voice actors in every single game nowadays.
Are guys also against a Brit playing an American Spiderman?
An Aussie playing Thor?
Or British actors in lead American roles such as House?
How about Matt Damon playing a South African with the accent and all?
A British born (despite his heritage), authentic Brit accent and all playing Ghandi?
How about Americans playing all Asian roles in English dubs of games and movies?
Where do you draw the line?
Are guys also against a Brit playing an American Spiderman?
An Aussie playing Thor?
Or British actors in lead American roles such as House?
How about Matt Damon playing a South African with the accent and all?
A British born (despite his heritage), authentic accent and all playing Ghandi?
How about Americans playing all Asian roles in English dubs of games and movies?
Where do you draw the line?
Naw this is a shitty take when the VO industry is filled with the same white actors getting all the roles over and over again and POC voice actors don't have a fair shotI honestly don't see an issue here, if you are good enough to be selected for the voice cast and you do a good job of it, that's fair.
I know why did they did. On set chemistry is a big process. So, what is done is done. However, I firmly believe that they should recast the role and get a black SA VA for any potential sequel featuring Nadine.
I think the reason this never took off is because they insisted that they had done the same for a black actor who'd play a white woman. Marlene's actress played an old white woman. Which you can actually see in action here at 1:28Black characters NEVER are casted for other races. This is straight up wrong.
Yeah those folks that voted yes are awfully quiet. They know it's a bad take but their naughty gods can do no wrong. It's probably a lot of the same ppl that had no problem with the crunch culture at ND. This is a more sensitive subject though and they don't want to show their ass
A British born (despite his heritage), authentic Brit accent and all playing Ghandi?
^^^Wow, I never knew Laura Bailey was the voice of Nadine. That pretty much perfectly encapsulates the diversity problem in the VA business lmao
I think there is a pretty massive difference between a white actor playing a white character from a different region than them and a white actor playing a non-white character, both because of the cultural history of white people playing non-white characters (hint: it's a very racist history) and the broader professional context of non-white performers being underrepresented in media/the industryAre guys also against a Brit playing an American Spiderman?
An Aussie playing Thor?
Or British actors in lead American roles such as House?
How about Matt Damon playing a South African with the accent and all?
A British born (despite his heritage), authentic Brit accent and all playing Ghandi?
How about Americans playing all Asian roles in English dubs of games and movies?
Where do you draw the line?