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Tara Reade appears to have lied under oath about her education, defense lawyers seek to get convictions overturned in cases where she testified
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Yes, I have. Is there a point here or are you just implying I'm posting in bad faith? Because if so I think you should knock it off: people can disagree with you on the internet without being bad faith actors.
Really weak to be corroborating your account with a transcript from the law school... The same law school that she allegedly lied to about the degree in question, that was used to get her into that law school. One would expect her to corroborate her story with, you know, the college she got her degree from....
Also, lying about a degree to get into a school is one thing, but lying under oath about your credentials as an expert witness is some real shit. The option was always open for her to tell the truth in court when questioned, but it looks like she did not do that.
That was already covered in that the university has her on record as attending.
I am pretty sure CNN's professional investigators would be on top of this stuff lol.
Yeah I get you, and I hope that if she was used as an expert witness then they were using qualifications beyond just a BA and JD. But I wouldnt be surprised if she was used without further qualifications, because prosecutors do that sort of thing often.
A lot of her actions detailed in this article and in the one with past landlords portray her as someone who embellishes stuff or flat out lies about her credentials, then proceeds to double and triple down when people do actual digging into the facts.
An easy solution is to stop tossing throwaway comments and discuss the article, like most of us are.
If she has a degree, it should be a rather simple process of being able to verify that.
Tweeting out a statement that's already been rendered invalid by the institution is a major red flag and lends further credence to the reporting being correct.
Again, the downplaying and outright dismissal of perjury in this thread and the complete lack of understanding or care of the importance and seriousness of it is downright frightening and so sad.
Equate giving a bad speech with a dozen plus accounts of perjury if you want to imply bad faith, by all means.
Yea, the only way the law school could really corroborate it is by providing the official transcript that was sent to them in the admissions processing showing she had her degree.
What a mess. I'll wait to see the university's follow-up (re: the threadmarked post) but this is looking really sketchy. I hope it's just some bureaucratic misunderstanding due to a name change or something like that. Though all the nonsense about a "protected program" that the university says does not exist, sounds really dubious...
If she lied under oath, her entire credibility is toast. And if it undermines criminal cases (some of which resulted in life sentences), then.... jesus fuck there are no words.
If she lied under oath, her entire credibility is toast. And if it undermines criminal cases (some of which resulted in life sentences), then.... jesus fuck there are no words.
Hmm no? The CNN article is from May 19th, the updated article in the OP is today (21st). Check the threadmarks.That's old news chum.
This seems to be the most recent info:
Tara Reade appears to have lied under oath about her education, defense lawyers seek to get convictions overturned in cases where she testified
Don't do this, please. And I'm saying this as someone who has believed Tara all the way up to this point. (In case my avatar didn't make that clear enough. Thought this rate,, that avatar is almost certainly being removed within the next 24 hours. God, I am so fucking pissed about all of this.)...www.resetera.com
No, it ties directly into the article as a pattern of dishonest behavior. Do you know what that phrase means?
Reade may have potentially provided incorrect credentials and committed perjury which could lead to the release of many criminals.
Oh yeah? Joe Biden once read someone else's speech.
We're through the looking glass here.
This story is crazy. I look forward to reading any new developments on this. As someone who transferred colleges myself I can say the process is not always perfect...
Oh yeah? Joe Biden once read someone else's speech.
We're through the looking glass here.
This story is crazy. I look forward to reading any new developments on this. As someone who transferred colleges myself I can say the process is not always perfect...
Exactly this. Followed by doubling and tripling down. It's maddening.
The part that always gets left out here is that the portion taken from Kinnock was a standard part of Biden's stump speech, and he had at several other times properly cited Kinnock when delivering the speech. Not doing so that time was obviously wrong, but probably falls more into Biden's issues with speaking and memory than outright malice.
there was a lot of investment of Reade and her story. Still is apparently.
I use the ignore button with great flourish as of late.
Also there's someone in this thread who comes straight out and says Joe Biden knowingly lied about his wife and child's death for political gain and that post is still up. I don't get how that isn't bannable.
Her proof that she graduated from Antioch is that Seattle University of Law believed her when she told them she graduated from Antioch? That's not proof at all.
As an attorney myself I'm interested to see if anything comes of that. I just checked my emails from a few years ago and I had to have my undergrad send an official copy of my transcript directly to my law school as part of the admissions process (cost me $9, smh.) Presumably she would have had to do the same, though obviously a long time ago.
Funny enough, I'm not sure I had to send an official copy of my transcript to the bar; I think they basically just relied on the law school. I'm in PA, so obviously could be different in other states.
I mean it was already investigated. CNN asked the university and university said she didn't graduate.
At that point its case closed.
Its even more annoying because the article itself doesnt have anything to do with Biden. Its about how her perjury could lead to 20 cases being thrown out.
20 victims could have there abusers let out, or a innocent person could have been put in by her actions.
And yet tons these posters don't care about that. They just want to make it about Biden and ignore she may have dramatically damaged tons of victims. Disgusting
So now we're left with someone who's proven that they'll lie because the ends outweighs the means?
Not a great look.
Not a great look.
No, you didn't.
The process in late 90's/early 2000's was the same, at least at the schools I am familiar with.
Looking at Antioch's Student Records (FERPA) policy, I believe she should have to give consent to release information publicly that she was awarded her degree.
An interesting thing here is in regards to the defense lawyers and her admission as an expert witness -- those records could also be released if the school was subpoenaed for them -- which I imagine either an aggrieved defense attorney or an angry court would do.
There is no name mix-up. The University knows who she says. They confirmed that she attended the university and also confirmed that she provided several hours of administrative work for them. They've flat-out said that they have no records of her having graduated or of her having worked there as a professor. So she's blatantly lied on two separate fronts about her history with that university.
It's not literally meaningless to present the subject of the article's own claims.
That's not about his speech, and considering he wasn't kicked out of school, they at least believed it was unintentional as claimed.
This isn't anything since nothing to do with the law school is in question. And even if you wanted to go with it saying it's an unofficial transcript isn't helping.
Because she didn't have a transcript. The quote said she supplied an unofficial transcript of the course work she completed before her name change.
Which is exactly what the university is saying. She attended. Took courses. But didn't graduate.
Because that's a less direct way of establishing the fact than going directly to the source. They went to the actual source.
No, it says she provided an unofficial record of her degree qualifications from Seattle U.
I...what? Read the posts above if you don't understand why the Seattle transcript doesn't mean anything.
A lot if your only intent is to bring down Biden rather than support actual victims.
It would have to be cleared up with an official document from the school. The same school that just made a public statement saying she didn't graduate from there.
People are always just way too quick to "choose sides" and defend them unconditionally, people are still doing that in this thread despite all of the recent stuff about the accusation
This is the claim we are talking about: "Antioch University did not grant Tara Reade a degree as she claims"
Antioch University itself has said to CNN that is not true. It doesn't matter what Seattle University said, as they are a third party -- not the granting institution, Antioch University.
NYT article about the story, Antioch continues to deny Tara Reade graduated
New article by NYTimes:
www.nytimes.com
Tara Reade Is Dropped as Client by a Leading #MeToo Lawyer (Published 2020)
The lawyer’s departure came after concerns over the expert witness credentials of Ms. Reade, who has accused Joe Biden of sexual assault.
Not proof enough. Should they reach out to former Chancellor Toni Murdoch or have they already and I just missed it?