Eh, is not like Xillia's characters were any better really.I would prefer Xillia 1 and 2 remaster. The combat in graces was great but I didn't like the story or Characters.
Fun as hell game to play, I'd love to get an updated version on PC.
Nothing like prepping people for Arise by dropping the worst cast and plot I've seen in an rpg again. Can only go up from there.
I guess Bandai Namco will use the term "Definitive Edition" like with Vesperia to differentiate it from Graces f (and I'm pretty cool with that, adding letters to re-releases is silly). It would be cool to see this happening with Xillia, Berseria and especially Zestiria which is the entry that needs a re-work the most.
Well, is not like those entries needed any serious re-work right?Both Symphonia and Vespria's re-release didn't get any rework done (except voice acting for the new scenes).
So what are you expecting?
I suppose it's unlikely they'd include a scene where Asbel dies horribly.
Well, is not like those entries needed any serious re-work right?
Then there wouldn't be any reason to buy a Definitive Edition.If Symphonia from 2003 didn't get any re-work, I don't see why you magically expect 2015's Zestiria to get any.
They're not suddenly going to change the engine.
They're not suddenly going to change the flawed fusion system.
They're not suddenly going to change the story or the cast.
The combat of this game is so good that it just killed the series for me because every sequel is trash and didn't even try to be as good as Graces.
Xillia's combat is super duper good, it and its equal deserve more attention in that regard. Ludger is one of the most fun characters to play as in Tales.I like Xillia 2's combat a lot. The ones after that don't quite match up though, hoping Arise changes that. At least as far as battle effects and battle visuals it looks like the best one yet which helps.
This. Big fan of the Tales of series, but the only good thing I have to say about Graces is the combat. The characters are pretty weak for a Tales of title, and the story is quite bad. Malik is decent at most, and the rest of the cast is so terrible that Pascal is probably my "favorite" one after Malik.Fuck Asbel.
It's a good thing the combat is fantastic because everything else about the game pisses me off.
Yup Xillia combat is fantastic. Shame Arise will be nothing like it.Xillia's combat is super duper good, it and its equal deserve more attention in that regard. Ludger is one of the most fun characters to play as in Tales.
God, this game is so goofy. I love it.
I'm going to have to play them all back to back at some point, or at least spend a lot of time back to back with each of their combat systems, but Xillia might be the peak of the traditional Tales style combat.Yup Xillia combat is fantastic. Shame Arise will be nothing like it.
Er, actually the last time they reinvented the wheel we got Zestiria.I really think we should give Arise a chance though. Lasts time they reinvented the wheel with the Tales of combat system we got Graces, which was amazing. I'm interested in seeing another take on this system.
As a fun note, this was one of the few Tales games, like Tales of Versperia, where we got an English version of the main theme.
I was specifically talking about the combat in that quote, which Zestiria is definitely built upon Graces's systems, what with its forward/backwards+strafing movement system and combo trees.Er, actually the last time they reinvented the wheel we got Zestiria.
So... yeah.
I really think we should give Arise a chance though. Lasts time they reinvented the wheel with the Tales of combat system we got Graces, which was amazing. I'm interested in seeing another take on this system.
Abyss would look pretty damn ugly on HD.
Yeah, I think Xillia 2 and Zestiria kind of ran into this issue a bit. While Xillia Ludgers weapon switching and Chromatus made him a ton of fun it kind of belittle the rest of the cast, and with Zestiria you kind of felt like you had to play as Sorey or Rose because of Armatus (though for whatever reason I actually ended up doing the most character switching in Zestiria than other Tales games).Oh yeah ofc I will give it a chance and by no means do I think Graces and co. have terrible combat just prefer the old style
Just don't make drawing weapons out of party members a gameplay thing where linking Alphen with other party members gives him different weapons so not using Alphen feels like you are missing out on half the combat system.
Also allow players to have a single character in combat already so all those solo runs don't have to kill the rest of the party lol
I think it makes more sense with the Graces anniversary and whatnot, but I would love an Abyss remaster. That would be a triple dip from me because I have the 3DS version too.
Best battle system in the Tales series, worst story and world design by far.
I guess we either weren't here for the initial hating or we're all coming out of the woodwork now. Tales of Graces is a lovely game.Y'all have been hating poor Graces for a decade now, why are you all asking for a remaster now?!