Golden Sun had a lot of puzzles where you would use specific "psynergy" (the franchise's form of magic) to solve the puzzles and continue on with the game. Yeah, Isaac had a sword, but the sword is the least interesting thing about his moveset.
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Golden Sun had a lot of puzzles where you would use specific "psynergy" (the franchise's form of magic) to solve the puzzles and continue on with the game. Yeah, Isaac had a sword, but the sword is the least interesting thing about his moveset.
Isaac, Geno, Paper Mario and BJK would be my dream 4. I guess I have the most basic Smash wishes (according to that poll)
Because people's desires has an effect of rubbing off on people or millions of Youtubers relaying this information when trying to figure out what people want in Smash for a video.
Here's a list of some Psynergy they could pull for Isaac's moveset.
http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/gs/psynergy/
http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/gs/psynergy/
That poster of " Top characters wanted in japan " thing too. That's limited information based on a limited polled base for something that sells millions world wide. All you are doing is setting yourself up for possible disappointment, or surprise when " someone you thought no one cares about" get sin , but it turns out everyone wanted him
It's a huge dataset and the majority of the top 10 are in Ultimate, so it doesn't really seem invalid.
It's gotta be Ragnarok. That move was sick. Giant blade slamming down.
Sakurai even said Chrom and Dark Samus were hugely requested characters. He said K.Rool was a hugely requested character. Ridley was a hugely requested character. Simon was a requested character.
Are you seeing the theme here? There's nothing wrong with people looking at these polls to get an idea of what Sakurai is thinking for Ultimate.
Its not a huge dataset
Its I believe like 40k+ people, who are assuredly if they found that poll, enthusiasts. Out of millions who are much more casual.
So no its not, its not at all.
Don't know why you all post that
That or this one. Summons would also be cool. Used to try all the combinations when I was a kid.
Eh. That was great, but I think they could pull from the Djinns.
That could mean anything?
" Hugely requested characters" varies from character to character and whether they get it. The threshold for entry with one character could be lower than others.
Also isn't ashly a hugely wanted character, what about that shit? Chrom and Dark Samus are echos, they might not have been as wanted as K rool, but there was something there so echos worked. You are acting like getting into smash is some time of defined popularity finishline and its much more complicated than that. This is ON TOP OF limited data, this is also ontop general game development and dev time stuff we just have no context for
I dont want any more Kirby characters and heres why.
Star Alies just came out with a buttload of Kirby fan service where you can play as both Marx and Bandanna Dee (the two most requested Kirby characters) . Kirby games essentially play the same as Smash Bros as "platformers".
I imagine that if they did get into Smash, they would play pretty much identically to how they play in Star Allies, and to me thats just boring.
I find that large part of the appeal of Smash Bros is fighting with characters that dont usually fight, or more specifically characters that you can translate their moveset into an interesting way.
But with Kirby, you're basically just copy and pasting their moveset form their games into Smash. We only have a few unique newcomers left, and i'd rather let other characters with more unconventional moveset make it in. Thats just my perspective though.
I wont get mad or anything if they do make it in since Kirby characters are cute.
Star Alies just came out with a buttload of Kirby fan service where you can play as both Marx and Bandanna Dee (the two most requested Kirby characters) . Kirby games essentially play the same as Smash Bros as "platformers".
I imagine that if they did get into Smash, they would play pretty much identically to how they play in Star Allies, and to me thats just boring.
I find that large part of the appeal of Smash Bros is fighting with characters that dont usually fight, or more specifically characters that you can translate their moveset into an interesting way.
But with Kirby, you're basically just copy and pasting their moveset form their games into Smash. We only have a few unique newcomers left, and i'd rather let other characters with more unconventional moveset make it in. Thats just my perspective though.
I wont get mad or anything if they do make it in since Kirby characters are cute.
What's boring about Kirby but without the ability to inhale or fly but with a small plain spear and a bandana?
For a population of 5 million people, you only need like 500 people to get decent data. 40k is actually overkill.
I'd argue that casual fans wouldn't have voted in the Smash ballot anyway, so the people voting in fan polls probably isn't that far off from the population that also voted in the ballot.
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That's exactly what he wanted. He had no problem to make few fake leaks once in awhile so he just like to made up fake stories about Sakurai just confuse some smash fans and audiences.
I don't think it's final numbers but some people probably would disagree with me here tho.
I'm sure sakurai or whoever looks at what folks want on various places. I think the people making this game also know that, polls like that are pretty limited data and don't count for too much. You have to look at a lot of information.
Honestly something close to that wouldn't even surprise me. xD
Wonder Red fans are the most pure, cause either you've played Wonderful 101 or you've never heard of it, there's barely any middle ground.
The moveset is literally already made for him, so its not really exciting if he got in.
Essentially i've already unlocked and played as Waddle Dee.
If in the next direct, skull kid gets announced. And Sakurai is in a room with glow in the dark stars on the wall, and wearing a blue cap.... believe.
Not really. People who are willing to vote on their ballot are the same who are making other ballots. At least that's what I would think.
Only the enthusiastic is gonna be voting/making polls for Smash newcomers. Plus Nintendo's also had other regions. Bayonetta was top in Europe and Top 5 in America according to Skaurai. So they did look at other ones
If you think data collection only accounts for general population and not a myriad other things, I guess .
We're talking about Smash Bros character polling data, not precise population data used for school funding or some other actually life changing thing.
The vast majority of attacks that Isaac uses in Golden Sun aren't sword attacks, they're magic (earth or fire)
You realize video game companies literally have polling data for , age reigeon amount of video games you play , ect ect . So they can parce out demographics they are trying to appeal to right?
You realize that they pay people for that type of data collection and meticulously craft products to appeal to such demographics , right?
You realize that video game companies... are companies... right?
Isaac would be similar to Robin in only the vaguest, most surface terms. It'd be like how Charizard and Ridley are both big fire-breathing dragons. And that's about it.
To be fair if Waddle Dee were to make it in the game I'd imagine he'd be an amalgamation of abilities Waddle Dees have so Spear is default, Parasol could be used for a dash attack, and Beam for some specials even though it's mainly associated with Waddle Doos.
What does anything you just posted have to do with an online poll that shows that a character from a 20 year old Game Boy game might have a chance to make the Smash Roster?
Why are you taking character speculation and fan polls so seriously? What are the stakes if the polls are wrong? Oh no, someone is mildly disappointed until they play a game with 80 characters and a 100 stages.
Something I realized just now that might be worth mentioning
While Isaac might not have reached the heights of K. Rool, Ridley, or even Geno in the Smash ballot, I think Golden Sun almost definitely had the best ballot performance out of all the unrepped 1st-party franchises. That might've been noteworthy to Sakurai. After all, they DID ask on the ballot for the series the character was from.
While Isaac might not have reached the heights of K. Rool, Ridley, or even Geno in the Smash ballot, I think Golden Sun almost definitely had the best ballot performance out of all the unrepped 1st-party franchises. That might've been noteworthy to Sakurai. After all, they DID ask on the ballot for the series the character was from.
You should ask yourself that? You are the one who instigated this argument about polling data my dude.
My original statement was however about how that data doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things , but could possibly be indicative of larger trends. But no so much stock should be put into it. This in combination with, the threshold for certain characters getting in may be higher or lower for other elements besides popularity we are not aware of.
So, who would be more suitable for Smash? Lloyd Irving or Cress Albane? Lloyd is more popular than Cress but Cress would be an awesome fighter. He looks more like a RPG character than Lloyd. But I think Lloyd will be in as the second Namco rep and Cress as a AT.
I hope Sakurai at least tries to go with a personal favourite, without exclusively focusing on the ballot.
I'm just annoyed every time someone posts a fan poll about the ballot, there's like 2 or 3 people who make it their mission to remind everyone how fan polls are bunk and meaningless and shouldn't be posted or whatever.
You post on it was essentially that
That certainly doesn't sound like "data doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things , but could possibly be indicative of larger trends"
Smash speculation is supposed to be fun, if people want to put hope into their favorite character because a fan poll showed them as popular, what harm is there in letting them have their fun?
So to step away from this discussion about Polls let's see our choices from this pic
I chose Rex and Pyra, Sora, Elma, Monster Hunter, Cuphead, and Travis.
All I need from this list is Dixie, Skull Kid and Captain Toad, the rest I can take or leave.
i spend all 15 points on ken
not gonna waste points on memes like a dancing lobster, earthworm jim, or geno
not gonna waste points on memes like a dancing lobster, earthworm jim, or geno
This is true.
You can't hate Wonder Red or any of the cast. (Unless its about stereotypes then that's fair). Hopefully Wonderful 101 gets rereleased already so people can vote for him in the next Ballot.
(Bonus points if he gets in and his final wonderful attack and its long named glory is his final smash)
You know Captain Toad's a background character on New Donk, right?
I'm not sure why Sora is so high. As for me, I'd go with Ken, Celica, Ayumi Tachibana, Elma, Ninten, Rex/Pyra, Dixie Kong and whoever the person left of Celica is I guess.So to step away from this discussion about Polls let's see our choices from this pic
I chose Rex and Pyra, Sora, Elma, Monster Hunter, Cuphead, and Travis.
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