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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 2 | Challengers Approaching!
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MGS literally points out that the plot of the game is like an anime lol
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A character says it outright, and it's played off like a joke, but...
Well, yeah. I was talking about the artstyle.
It's the difference between this:
and this:
Like yeah they're both done for the same character by Japanese artists, but if you think the word anime you think of characters designed like Dawn of Sorrow's Soma. That's what I mean by anime; Dante wears a silly red coat but he's not designed with spiky hair and eyes the size of dinner plates.
That second art of Soma is so much more boring than the first art
Game developers need to stop being afraid of going stylized and "artsy" with official art. Old Castlevania art and Metal Gear art is gorgeous. Compared to just a render or some stock flat color cutscene art we get these days for most games.
Game developers need to stop being afraid of going stylized and "artsy" with official art. Old Castlevania art and Metal Gear art is gorgeous. Compared to just a render or some stock flat color cutscene art we get these days for most games.
I have no idea how anyone could have beaten DMC5 and still think the series isn't anime as shit.
Peak anime.
Nero literally gets a pretty long haired super form via the power of love and then punches his daddy issues in the face.
Then they all forgive the mass murderer.
Then they all forgive the mass murderer.
Peak anime.
Same here and I've never played either series (well I played a little if DMC on pose a long time ago, but that's it). Jill's a standout female rep, and she would probably bring more to the table gameplay-wise than Dante.
The DQ aesthetic for one. But come on, I think Sakurai will be able to make him stand out in some way. This makes me wonder if Cloud was heavily rumored before being revealed would there be a ton of people assuming he'd be like a Fire Emblem character as well? It's such a dumb assumption.
I could understand thinking "I taste Peach pretty low among video have women because she's a real backwards stereotype." But going on about "they could totally make her a serious character" is like bemoaning Minnie Mouse for the same reason. It's "Mature" Mario all over again.
At the end of the day, they're both still equally iconic even if they're not the most progressive characters out there.
Well, yeah. I was talking about the artstyle.
It's the difference between this:
and this:
Like yeah they're both done for the same character by Japanese artists, but if you think the word anime you think of characters designed like Dawn of Sorrow's Soma. That's what I mean by anime; Dante wears a silly red coat but he's not designed with spiky hair and eyes the size of dinner plates.
It's less that they were afraid and more that they were trying to sell CV to a different audience around that time. (Didn't work). Behind the scenes the earliest attempts at getting off the ground what is now the Netflix series was happening around then.
As much as the storyline of DMC revolves around anime-esqe tropes, Dante as a character is pretty clearly modeled after Matrix kung-fu and edgy, smartass western comic book characters.
But anime inspired the Matrix and they literally made anime shorts about the Matrix
As I said earlier he was modeled after this guy.
Just admit you like an anime character instead of trying to pick and choose what qualifies as anime because lord forbid you be caught liking anime.
Well there's the stylistic differences between SFII having a more realistic and angular art style vs. the softer and more vibrant Alpha style.
Anyway I get that I'm defining as wide a medium as anime as "bouncy, soft cartoony visuals" but I think of it more as a shorthand between Dragon Ball and, say, Berserk or JoJo. One is more likely what we are to think of when we think the word "anime" than the other.
There are literally specific shots in The Matrix that were lifted from anime.
Sure, but Dante is also a long silver-haired bishounen. He's an amalgamation of everything that was cool in the early 2000's
Okay, are you honestly trying to argue that nothing in the Matrix has any uniquely western style or perspective? Like obviously there are direct anime/eastern influences, but there's just as much Neuromancer there as Ghost in the Shell.
The Matrix was written and direct by a pair of otaku siblings that basically wanted to make a live-action anime movie.
There both fucking anime though.
This whole thing of trying to separate the medium is stupid.
I also wasn't aware smart ass characters were an american invention. Someone tell Togashi.
The direct parallels between Dante and characters like Deadpool and Blade is astronomical.
You can't say Dante is purely an "anime type character"
I need to relish in today this is my day my hopes are through the roof .
This just reminds me of how superficial the dislike of anime can be sometimes. As long as you cover it in a non "stereotypical" design, folks will do their best to pretend it isn't anime. The way some people defend some of the more questionable parts of something like MGS that they would be quick to condemn in a game that looks like something out of the Tales series is always funny.Well, yeah. I was talking about the artstyle.
It's the difference between this:
and this:
Like yeah they're both done for the same character by Japanese artists, but if you think the word anime you think of characters designed like Dawn of Sorrow's Soma. That's what I mean by anime; Dante wears a silly red coat but he's not designed with spiky hair and eyes the size of dinner plates.
So are you just gonna keep ignoring me when I point out the anime character Dante was stated to be based on?
Oh my goodness this is so fucking stupid.
First off I don't even think Deadpool was popular yet.
Second he literally has the same fucking backstory as Inuyasha.
Just admit you like an anime character.
Deadpool and Blade were both pretty damn niche at the time Dante was created.
It's so fucking transparent and it pisses me off that people rather jump through all these fucking hoops instead of just admitting they might like something anime.
I fucking love anime, but to say Dante is an "just an anime character" is just so fucking reductive and ignores all the other influences and style fusion that went into the creation of the first game.
One is not like the others.lolI need to relish in today this is my day my hopes are through the roof .
Saying Dante is an anime character is just that, he is a character who is anime.
Unless you think "being anime" is inherently bad this should not bother you.
Deadpool and Blade were niche in the late 90's and early 2000's? I guess someone better tell the Blade movie published in 1998 about that.
I suppose that is true. MGS is filled with sus material but it doesn't look like Tales so people seem less willing to question it.
Like, if I thought about it I probably could find a bunch of those typical trashy moments in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (a few actually came to mind as I was typing this) but JoJo is so stylistically and visually different from what I consider "typical anime" that they don't stick out as much.
Deadpool didn't really take off as a character until about the mid 2000s, well after his creation.
Is Neo an anime character by your bizarre definition? Like you're being so weirdly pedantic about this. Is any character created by a Japanese person anime? Is any character that takes some amount of influence from Japanese story telling anime?
I'm honestly trying to understand your criteria of "what is anime", cause it sounds vague as hell from my perspective.
A white haired half human who does shit in the most unnecessarily over the top way who fights against their quiet and brooding sibling with a katana.
You're right how could I ever have thought of anime when I was reminded of this character.
You really think that because Blade had a movie in America that he suddenly was well known enough in a foreign market that a foreign game studio decided to base a character off him? lmao.
As Crazy Izanagi points out, there are plenty of similar traits in other Japanese created characters that the idea that any of Dante is based on niche characters from a foreign country is incredibly unlikely.
Also, thanks for trying to attack me personally saying I have some kind of problem with anime, when I not even a few pages ago talked about how much I liked Trigun and was sad it didn't do as well in Japan as it did in the west.
You guys love making this shit personal don't you?
You really think there weren't tons of creative people in Japan in the 90's who fucking obsessed over Western media? Like where do you think Kojima came from guys?
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