Tekken's story has always revolved around Heihachi, Kazuya (who was the protagonist of the original Tekken) and Jin. Tekken 7 actually resolved the longest-standing storyline in the series by finally ending the Kazuya/Heihachi blood feud.
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 18 | Smash? Gongaga
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I found stuff weird with Bandai, Smash is basically the biggest game they work at, but they don't bring their games to Switch. The only one they bring are the anime fighters, party games and some old games. Nintendo should gibe the next slots to Bethesda, Koie or other companies that support the platform.
More like Sakurai (and Nintendo) doesn't.
E3 2013: Namco Bandai Characters Receive No Priority for Super Smash Bros. - IGN
You might think that Namco Bandai's development partnership with Nintendo for Smash Bros. makes its characters first in line for the roster. Not so fast!
True, but we are not getting a second SNK character, and a 2nd SEGA character seems unlikely to me unless they go Sephiroth again and use Eggman.
I know that Jin has a stupid transformation form (that again looks Sephiroth-ish) but the "normal" figther has been always IMO the main guy for Tekken games.
More like Sakurai (and Nintendo) doesn't.
E3 2013: Namco Bandai Characters Receive No Priority for Super Smash Bros. - IGN
You might think that Namco Bandai's development partnership with Nintendo for Smash Bros. makes its characters first in line for the roster. Not so fast!www.ign.com
That's true, but there's still the fact that even the base game (where I assume that'd be easier to get "low-priority" stuff in) only added... a couple cameos to PAC-Man's taunt. Not even Spirits for any of those cameos, no new Assist Trophies. We lost PAC-Maze, for pete's sake
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Oh, I'm not talking about Devil Jin. Jin basically went rogue after Tekken (5?) and became a main antagonist, so Kazuya came back in 7 as an anti-villain. All the Mishimas are assholes to varying degrees.
Sega's rep was the first character of the first pass. If banjo and Steve count for Microsoft, Joker absolutely does for Sega.
Atlus is a gray area, but I'll give that to you. Namco's complete lack of representation since vanilla Smash 4 is a glaring omission, and Tecmo Koei similarly has not had a single character in Smash at all despite being extremely closely tied to Nintendo for years now.
Effectively, there are a lot of roads they should go down before even considering a third Microsoft DLC character.
Yeah I don't like this notion that a guest character needs to be in just because that their respective company "deserves it" or whatever. Something like say, Dragon Quest didn't get just because "Square-Enix needs that new rep ahuh", it got in because it's Dragon Quest.
I do think the one line they may not want to cross is adding in more than one new character from a company in the same cycle, though. I think Simon and Richter is probably the only instance of something like that happening, and even then Richter's just an echo.
Characters are chosen because of who they are and what series they come from, I seriously can't imagine how much their respective corporate conglomerate owners "deserve it" ever actually comes up.
Bethesda and Nintendo talked to each other. Nowhere was it said Bethesda was the one who initiated the conversation.
Hero got in because Dragon Quest. Promoting Dragon Quest XI was a convenience.
That played a part in it, but Dragon Quest was still nonetheless a mega massive franchise in Japan that was solely missing from a game that primarily celebrates Nintendo and Japanese games. That's why they included the Heroes, music and spirits from the other games, and hell it seems Erdrick has mostly overtaken Luminary as being the main Hero, as shown by his new All-Star Smash placement and now recent appearance in Sephiroth's trailer.
Ah, my internet just came back so I didn't see the other posts.
"Well, we could get Master Chief, but the other companies haven't gotten their turn so that just wouldn't be fair."
Like it's a school yard game and not just, you know, business.
Like it's a school yard game and not just, you know, business.
Not a problem because Sonic Adventure Remake will be announced soon, and that'll be the perfect launching point for Tails's resurgence in capability! (That's why I want an Egg Carrier stage!)
Or maybe because they feel the need to not put two characters from the same third party in the same Fighter Pass.
I think one of the reasons Eggman is a more exciting proposition to most people is that, in addition to being another villain rep, he'd be guranteed to have an entirely unique moveset, whereas Tails (and Knuckles, and Shadow prolly) would just be a semi-clone of Sonic's moveset, most likely.
I actually think it makes more sense from a business perspective to facilitate relationships with multiple companies rather than show greater favoritism to one. That would the biggest reason they wouldn't do it.
I agree. Eggman would definitely get me more excited. I just like imagining random exciting scenarios of what could happen.
Blaze would make me the HAPPIEST though!
Yeah that makes sense, I was just scoffing at the idea that third parties "deserve" something in Smash.
I will die on the hill that Smash became to Nintendo as an ambassador to secure third party support. The rules that was once in place or said, don't seem to apply now.
Never mind the fact that Banjo started as a Nintendo character and Minecraft is on Switch right now. Meanwhile Halo will NEVER be on Switch.
Bandai-Namco does a number of collaborations on first-party Nintendo titles. They've worked with EPD9 on Mario Kart and ARMS, as well as on Pokemon spin-offs Pokken and New Snap
Which makes it more weird that they are reluctant to bring more of their games to the Switch.
Here's an interesting question: what would Eggman's Final Smash be?
I ask because there's a lot of directions they could go in. The Death Egg Robot, the Death Egg itself, the Egg Carrier, the Egg Dragoon, even something like a cinematic involving Perfect Chaos.
I ask because there's a lot of directions they could go in. The Death Egg Robot, the Death Egg itself, the Egg Carrier, the Egg Dragoon, even something like a cinematic involving Perfect Chaos.
Bandai Namco develops the game and has to deal with Smash fans every day. Why would they want to add their characters just for the sake of those ingrates?
I think it should be one of his classic Egg robots. Not the full Death Egg, but I guess you could have it shoot an orbital laser at the target.
It'd be way funnier if the Final Smash animation is him trapping the opponents in the Mean Bean Machine and then getting frustrated and detonating the whole thing with them inside, though.
If Sega have any say it'd obviously be the Death Egg Robot.
A cinematic involving multiple past Eggman robots performing a barrage of attacks could be nice. Throw in the Death Egg Robot, Big Arm, Egg Viper, Egg Emperor, Egg Dragoon, etc.
I did a moveset for Eggman ages ago, not sure where I put it. I think I did use the Death Egg Robot. It's an iconic fixture in the series, having returned in Sonic Generations. You could do a cinematic where they fight in the Death Egg and the spiked fists punch the target(s) out into the darkness of space.
Well shit, that's what I get for doing this while multi-tasking, I spaced that Nintendo did the approaching.
In that case.... if Bamco and Koei-Tecmo, two companies Nintendo's close enough with to trust handling two of their biggest IPs (Smash and Zelda) several times over, don't get any characters this Pass, think we can put to bed the idea that 3rd party characters are chosen as "rewards."
Eggman would also come with the Eggman base aesthetic like how Sephiroth has Northern Crater.
Actually what would be a cool Eggman stage? I think something to callback to the 2000's era Sonic would be cool. Like spanning from Egg Carrier to Egg Fleet/Final Fortress. We already have Green Hill and Windy Hill representing the classic and modern era
Actually what would be a cool Eggman stage? I think something to callback to the 2000's era Sonic would be cool. Like spanning from Egg Carrier to Egg Fleet/Final Fortress. We already have Green Hill and Windy Hill representing the classic and modern era
The problem is Nintendo doesn't want any of their characters except Pac-Man. Can't say I blame them. Namco doesn't have anyone that even comes close to Pac-Man in recognition, or any of the other 3rd parties in Smash now, except Ms. Pac-Man who really should be an echo fighter.
The only characters on the same level of iconicity as Pac-Man are Mario and Donkey Kong so I don't think that's a fair comparison either
that's pretty true about pacman so the next big thing is using Monolith and Namco's great relationship to get KOS-MOS promoted or something from tales like Lloyd or Velvet.
Bandai Namco just doesn't have many franchises worth putting in Smash. Dark Souls? Tekken? Tales of? Meh.
I made a giant post about this on the first page, but in support of Tails. (I support Eggman too for the record, I was just imagining a scenario I thought was cool.)
See the last two paragraphs.
Death Egg (3&K), Egg Carrier and Eggmanland feel like the three best choices to me.
I imagine the Death Egg would be the first choice for an Eggman stage, but Egg Fleet or Eggmanland would be cool.
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