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Streamer Valkyrae faces backlash for new gamer skincare range
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she'll fund half-life 3 and then somehow broker a deal where it can only be bought on the epic game store
Possibly skin damage too, seems like shes not just pulling shit out of her arse:
Can Light Emitted from Smartphone Screens and Taking Selfies Cause Premature Aging and Wrinkles?
Since the early days of human life on the Earth, our skin has been exposed to different levels of light. Recently, due to inevitable consequences of modern life, humans are not exposed to adequate levels of natural light during the day but they are overexposed ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This whole backlash smacks of misogyny.
Saks fifth avenue is trying to scam gamers too
www.saksfifthavenue.com
Chantecaille Blue Light Protection Hyaluronic Serum
Free shipping and returns are available on Chantecaille Blue Light Protection Hyaluronic Serum at Saks Fifth Avenue. Browse luxury Chantecaille Face Oils, Serums & Essences and other new arrivals.
www.saksfifthavenue.com
If there is actual, well documented evidence that this is a widespread phenomenon that is in need of some sort of solution then I will rescind my previous statements.Possibly skin damage too, seems like shes not just pulling shit out of her arse:
Can Light Emitted from Smartphone Screens and Taking Selfies Cause Premature Aging and Wrinkles?
Since the early days of human life on the Earth, our skin has been exposed to different levels of light. Recently, due to inevitable consequences of modern life, humans are not exposed to adequate levels of natural light during the day but they are overexposed ...
This whole backlash smacks of misogyny.
That being said, I don't think you can fault people for being reasonably skeptical about an influencer using their status to well, influence people into buying a product that they make money off of to solve an issue most have never heard of, especially given the long standing history of other influencers, men and women alike, especially in the gaming space, trying to scam vulnerable individuals, usually children, out of their money.
Some people: "It's okay to trick gamers as long as they're stupid enough to pay for it."
Same people: "Don't call her a scammer just because she's making money."
Same people: "Don't call her a scammer just because she's making money."
Saks fifth avenue is trying to scam gamers too
Chantecaille Blue Light Protection Hyaluronic Serum
Free shipping and returns are available on Chantecaille Blue Light Protection Hyaluronic Serum at Saks Fifth Avenue. Browse luxury Chantecaille Face Oils, Serums & Essences and other new arrivals.
That'll teach all the saks fifth avenue stans at resetera.com
I wonder if this gets sold in the EU. ECHA won't be happy about objectively fake health claims on products.
FYI, it is objectively false that blue light creates free radicals (or is a type of free radical, as the grammar free implies). The photons don't have enough energy. I fucking hate it when people use real science terms in their pseudoscience bullshit.
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Doesnt matter if the science does or doesnt pan out on this. She's launching a skincare line based on something.
I have access to my Universities library system I'll do a proper search for papers later. But that's beside the point. I've noticed typical womens concerns dismissed far more quickly by guys, this thread, and the general reaction, being a case in point.
However the skincare/cosmetics industry havent done themselves any favours either with the amount of bull they try and peddle. So I understand the scepticism to some extent.
Creating a fake problem then selling the solution in a already horrible industry, that preys on the self esteem of women and young girls is ok cause #girlboss.
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So I read this article.Possibly skin damage too, seems like shes not just pulling shit out of her arse:
Can Light Emitted from Smartphone Screens and Taking Selfies Cause Premature Aging and Wrinkles?
Since the early days of human life on the Earth, our skin has been exposed to different levels of light. Recently, due to inevitable consequences of modern life, humans are not exposed to adequate levels of natural light during the day but they are overexposed ...
This whole backlash smacks of misogyny.
It's kinda bullshit.
It doesn't differentiate between ultraviolet and blue light.
It quotes a journalist's article about how blue light is bad for you.
There's no research and it reads like the quality of a first year undergraduate's essay.
Also the article is about LED camera flashes being worse than Xenon ones. Not displays.
If you want to protect your skin from "blue light" there is a very effective set of creams called sun cream.
Designed to block the significantly higher and more dangerous UV light from the sun.
If you're afraid of boue light into your eyes, you can buy even a clear pair of glasses with a UV blocking coating.
If she's not selling suncream, then this is a scam.
Except it is when there are studies (quoted in the OP) showing blue light does basically nothing
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Saks fifth avenue is trying to scam gamers too
Chantecaille Blue Light Protection Hyaluronic Serum
Free shipping and returns are available on Chantecaille Blue Light Protection Hyaluronic Serum at Saks Fifth Avenue. Browse luxury Chantecaille Face Oils, Serums & Essences and other new arrivals.
I (now) hate the blue light claims, but that's actually a good example of a decent product. Even though blue light emitted from an LCD screen likely has extremely minimal effects on aging, what someone would really be worried about is brown spots, tired looking skin, pre-mature wrinkles, and free radical damage. The linked product is filled to the brim with humectants, antioxidants, and amino acids.
Valkyrae's stuff is filled with moisturizers and skin soothers. Like... It doesn't even come close to meeting its claims. Like, if Valkyrae came out with the stuff linked above and slapped a new label on it, this wouldn't be a story.
Absolutely! The angry gamers in her twitter mentions are just upset that there aren't enough humectants in her products. Gamers can't get enough humectants
I hate how normalized this stuff is in the beauty & skincare industry. Just a new demographic of women to take advantage of.
What I'm saying is: If this was a good product, no one would be talking about it in this way. It'd be on blogs, they'd pay to have it in Allure, they'd pay for advertorials in gaming publications, etc.
Shoot, if she didn't even ride so hard with the Blue Light stuff, no one would be talking about it in this way.
I agree with the second part, but I think you're the only person involved in this discussion that has been knowledgable enough to speak about the quality of the product (outside of the blue light claims).
If it had the same formula as the stuff from Saks I think it would have gotten the same response, in other words.
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Kinda just sounds like a skin care product to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but a lot of these sort of beauty product seem to sketchy at best and wrapped in misinformation.
My first assumption on seeing the title would be that it would be a situation where they only provided products for white people.
My first assumption on seeing the title would be that it would be a situation where they only provided products for white people.
You know that's bull right? Like the gamers reaction here was based on what was in her cream and not that is was skincream for gamers by a woman gamer?
I think it's okay to point out the fact that this is a scam while also recognizing that there some people getting abnormally riled up due to misogyny while being fine with much more harmful scams from other male streamers (all the crypto bullshit is far worse in my opinion).
That being said, I think the Blue Light stuff was a stupid gimmick instead of just attaching the products to the person in question since they're really popular.
That being said, I think the Blue Light stuff was a stupid gimmick instead of just attaching the products to the person in question since they're really popular.
Saw a big thread on OTV subreddit. Her own fans are disappointed
She would have been positively supported with this skincare stuff if it was just advertised without the blue light
And successfully sell it
I think this is going to hound her just like JoshOG with his CSGO scam for years to come
She would have been positively supported with this skincare stuff if it was just advertised without the blue light
And successfully sell it
I think this is going to hound her just like JoshOG with his CSGO scam for years to come
This kind of reminds me of those overpriced Monster HDMI cables which advertise "less signal degradation" or some bullshit.
Or there's a bunch of audiophile gear out there like this. It's all a way to scam ignorant people. I can't believe we even have people defending this here.
Most skincare I'm aware of has concrete reasons for its existence like "moisturizes dry skin" or "protects against UV". There wouldn't be an issue if it was being marketed as a moisturizer or whatever. The issue is the fabricated reason for its existence.
Snake oil should be called out whenever possible. Why is it ok to profit on people's ignorance? There's some fucked up attitudes in this thread.
Or there's a bunch of audiophile gear out there like this. It's all a way to scam ignorant people. I can't believe we even have people defending this here.
Because its entire marketing is based on a bullshit reason that doesn't exist?
Most skincare I'm aware of has concrete reasons for its existence like "moisturizes dry skin" or "protects against UV". There wouldn't be an issue if it was being marketed as a moisturizer or whatever. The issue is the fabricated reason for its existence.
Snake oil should be called out whenever possible. Why is it ok to profit on people's ignorance? There's some fucked up attitudes in this thread.
I remember streamers being in the news plenty of times for running gambling scams. Are we popping a blood vessel for reporting on this and commenting? I don't think so. The OP doesn't cover the sexists losing their shit over this so maybe we've missed an angle that you're witnessing.
I don't know who she is but I don't see what the problem is, she's not even the first market this kind of product. Looking at the ingredients list it seems like alright stuff for the price. Y'all are taking this way too seriously. This on the same level deceptiveness as the rest of the cosmetics industry aka marketing. I don't see anyone complaining when streamers are promoting gfuel that also has similar dubious claims.
I'm asking why are people jumping on her. There are bazillions of products out there that have way more ridiculous claims and make way more money then this will ever make. Blue light skincare products have been on the market for years now.
So are you interested in tackling the issues of the skincare industry or is it just this single instance of her doing it that is bothering you.
This reeks of gamer misogyny disguised as ethics in the skincare industry. Give me a break.
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It's a scam lol.
Selling a product that doesnt do anything is a scam. People who sell scams are scammers. It's really quite simple.
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Yeah, I don't think gamers and streamers are there to "tackle the issues of the skincare industry".
They know her and they know it's a scam, that's why she's getting attention. Not that hard to understand.
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It's basically just energy drinks in powder form, does nothing more or less than claimed iirc
Lmao, what? I don't think anyone here really trying to talk about the skincare industry as a whole, she is promoting a dubious at best product, and you don't exactly have to be a skincare professional to realize that. She's a very popular twitch streamer and this is primariyl a gaming forum so... put the 2 together. Similiarly how to this day Fatalitys gaming snacks get mocked or how the Shungite copypasta of DrDisrespect still gets randomly posted even after 2 years.
Call out bullshit whenever you see it. That's the only way to prevent people from being scammed. This far from the only time this sort of crap gets called out.
Of course it's a shit product. I'm looking at the reasons for why people are upset about this particular instance when all kinds of streamers advertise or release dubious products.
You guys keep coming back to the well of "other streamers do other bullshit" like it means something on this site. Like, have you read any streamer thread here? Most of them are getting shit just for being streamers.
Gamer branded crap gets dunked on literally all the time here. There just is never anyone defending Game Fuel, so there's no arguments. Everyone knows that shit is dumb.
Gamer branded crap gets dunked on literally all the time here. There just is never anyone defending Game Fuel, so there's no arguments. Everyone knows that shit is dumb.
So it's ok to grift if the grifter meets your specific requirements?
The whataboutism when it comes to other streamers not being called out (which many similar scams HAVE been). I am really trying to wrap my head around the defending of this instance.
And please don't disingenuously play up the misogynist card either. That's where you were headed right?
This is an obvious scam, we've had threads about other obvious scams in the past as well. You can hate all of this and still bring up a specific new instance of it happening.
Any examples of big streamers not getting backlash for releasing something like this?