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These days, anything goes on Steam, but not anything anything. If games are "illegal, or straight up trolling," Valve says it'll send them packing. In the past, that's meant low-effort games with titles like Big Dick and MILF, achievement spam, and certain sex games.

Now, according to some developers, Valve is going after games that feature themes of "child exploitation," which it seems to define, at least in part, as games with sex scenes or nudity where the characters are in high school.

Over the past few weeks, the company has removed the store pages of several visual novels, including cross-dressing yaoi romance Cross Love, catholic school adult visual novel Hello Goodbye, "story about the love between siblings" (yuck) Imolicious, and cat girl game MaoMao Discovery Team. The developers of these games all claim to have received similar emails stating that their games could not be released on Steam.

"While we can ship most titles on Steam, we found that this one does feature themes of child exploitation," read the email received by Top Hat Studios, makers of Cross Love. "Because of that, the app has been banned and cannot be reused."

There are a couple ties that bind the games in question: 1) Cross Love, Hello Goodbye, and Imolicious feature school settings, and 2) all four of the aforementioned games contain adult elements and center around anime-styled characters who appear young—in some cases uncomfortably so. However, their developers have taken to protesting the bans on social media, saying that their games have been misunderstood. They all claim they've reached out to Valve since receiving their bans, only to be met with silence.

Cross Love's developers say they've taken great pains to ensure that their game demonstrates, on multiple occasions, that its students are of age. This includes scenes where they peruse 18+ manga and are ID-ed before being allowed into an adult bookstore.

"These scenes aren't there to be artificially shoehorned in, and while they do exist as further proof of characters' ages (beyond the disclaimer in the beginning that explicitly states them as being 18), the real reason they're there is to further many of the themes in the story," said developer Top Hat to Kotaku in a Twitter DM, pointing out that it's tried to contact Valve with this information six separate times, to no avail. "A large chunk of the story is about accepting who you are, being comfortable with yourself, and altogether similar themes within a type of coming of age-style love story, which isn't really seen in most yaoi games."

Which brings us to the heart of the matter: It's Valve's store, and what it says goes. If someone at Valve decides characters look too young, then they're too young. Top Hat, however, believes there's a double standard at play here, not unlike the one some developers felt they'd fallen victim tobefore Valve officially allowed uncensored sex games on Steam. Other games that feature young-looking characters, school settings, and romantic/sexual themes, like Nekopara Extra, Sakura Sakura, A Piece Of Wish Upon The Stars, and Material Girl, are all still on Steam, Top Hat pointed out.

"Steam is a major service, and we had hundreds of players looking forward to buying the game there upon release," Top Hat said. "The game had wishlists in the thousands, and the community group had several hundred people in it. This is a very large userbase to lose out on, and it hurts us pretty bad. It's not world ending, but it is quite the end of the year blow."

Much more at the link.
https://kotaku.com/steam-is-banning...m_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow
 

LewieP

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Oct 26, 2017
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Why on earth were they even letting these games on Steam in the first place?!
 

flaxknuckles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good. That shit was a bad look. And I like how they are openly calling it child exploitation so people who complain about the removals will look very suspect.
 

funky

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Oct 25, 2017
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But it says in the manual she is 30!

(And the dev offers a official patch that changes that to 15 on their website)
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good on them, arguing that "We stated they were 18 so it's not children!!!" doesn't work when they practically look like kids.

developer Yume Creations replied in a DM: "High school students aren't children, they are teenager."

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"Having a disclaimer stating that a drawing is of consensual age or not is a ridiculous thing to rely upon," said one user in a Steam forum thread discussing MaoMao Discovery Team's legality. "At the end of the day, it is a fictional drawing that does not have an age. If you think they look too young, then they are too young. A bit of text saying 'this person is 20' changes nothing."

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SweetNicole

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"Having a disclaimer stating that a drawing is of consensual age or not is a ridiculous thing to rely upon," said one user in a Steam forum thread discussing MaoMao Discovery Team's legality. "At the end of the day, it is a fictional drawing that does not have an age. If you think they look too young, then they are too young. A bit of text saying 'this person is 20' changes nothing."

They're right on the money here.

Valve is going after games that feature themes of "child exploitation," which it seems to define, at least in part, as games with sex scenes or nudity where the characters are in high school.

It is about time.
 

nib95

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Oct 28, 2017
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Good. Hate it when potentially closet pedo's justify or promote what is essentially sexualised looking children with nonsense about them still being X, Y or Z years old. Just make the women look their age, instead of looking like they're 10-12 years old.
 

Thrill_house

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Oct 27, 2017
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You want anime tiddy in your games? Ok fine, if thats your thing whatever. But when they look like children? Nah get on. Good decision.
 

Deleted member 888

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Oct 25, 2017
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Waiting for everyone on Era who was saying they'd boycott Sony to now say they'll boycott Steam 🤔
 

aspiring

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Oct 25, 2017
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Never understood the backlash against sony, and am glad steam is doing the same. There is no need for sex with what looks like children. Its disgusting
 

Kilic95

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's good, but ugh, now Youtube is gonna be soon filled with videos of males screaming about not being able to sexualize children. Hiding behind the "censorship" argument and blah blah blah.

Please, Youtube, don't recommend those videos to me.
 

Lant_War

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Jul 14, 2018
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Inb4 people start complaining about muh censorship like when Sony did it
 

Primus

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Oct 25, 2017
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"But they're actually 18+ because we show them reading R-18+ rated manga!"

LOL of the week right there.
 

tolkir

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Oct 25, 2017
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Waiting for everyone on Era who was saying they'd boycott Sony to now say they'll boycott Steam 🤔

They're different cases. Here we're talking only about sex games I think. Consoles never have had sex games.

I don't know if they're including any pervert game with teenagers like Sony.
 

Aters

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Oct 26, 2017
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Hello, good-bye

Can you even think of a better name for a game put on Steam and later taken down? You can't write this shit LMAO.
 
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