Oh yes! I was this, I'd always been curios if it, but expected it to be a PS+ title eventually, but they showed off enough today to get me into picking it up. Didn't expect it to have the depth and longevity it looks to have from earlier showings, pretty excited!
Wow.... You can still expect other indie games or simply not liking a show. Where is this argument that as long as a company manages expectations nobody should be disappointed is coming from?
I think the others are crazy :p
it feels like dishonored but not broken into levels, instead as a cohesive open world
It's kind of self manufactured disappointment though, isn't it? If Sony comes out and says "hey, we're showing indies, a couple of third party titles, and Deathloop" and then they show indies, a few third party titles and Deathloop...and people get mad that's all they showed...whose fault is that?
Read again, being disappointed with what they showed is one thing, but being disappointed because they didn't show something they weren't going to show is another.
Even the formats are different though, something that should be clear if you've ever watched a Direct.
Directs usually have a format that goes like this: Long trailer for Long trailer/demo -> Short <1 minute 'Headlines' -> Long trailer/demo -> Headlines -> "One more thing."
Meanwhile State of Plays have been "Long trailer -> Long trailer -> Long Trailer." They don't have the brevity nor the amount of content to have the same format as a Direct, so any game that people aren't interested in seeing is going to take up much more time in a State of Play than a Direct.
I'm honestly mostly excited for it because it looks like Dishonored but I don't have to worry about killing to many people like I did when I played Dishonored.
Isn't the game broken up into levels with time advancing between levels until you win or loop?
i mean, they managed expectations well so it wasnt a disappointment in that sense. but i feel like i learned very little during the stream, dont think it needed to happen at all.
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So Nintendo Directs are better because they show people in between games?
Your confused, I was talking about Sonys general approach with the state of plays. I know what was said. I was speaking to my dislike for the approach, and what I hoped for in terms of an Sony E3 in comparison to what we got in general.
That was enjoyable, aside from that Fortnite-lookin' game that showed up right after the good opener (Moss <3).
They should have booted that out of the lineup and given Deathloop more time ;P
They should have booted that out of the lineup and given Deathloop more time ;P
Uh, pretty sure that reaction is to people being upset over imaginary expectations like big AAA reveals, etc. when they specifically promoted Deathloop + indies / third party updates. Of course people can still dislike the show.
Saying you're going to do x doesn't mean people can't be disappointed in x.
Did you literally not read my entire post? What?
Oh I'm not sure that's not what I meant though, I'm pretty sure you can tackle targets in any order, rather than a linear storyline like Dishonored 2.
Agreed it is better than Inside Xbox just because it removes the fat, but I don't understand the release cadence. This stuff plus Horizon 2 gameplay and God of War gameplay and the Ghost of Tsushima announcement would have been a really good show.
Definitely feels like Sony retreads old ground a little too often.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a contractual obligation to show many of these off at an "event" in order to gain exclusivity and all that. Plus some devs probably pay them to show off their games in these things.
In for Deathloop but it's entered the anti-hype phase now where I'm sick of seeing it/hearing about it.
Considering Arkane's track record of stellar level design and gameplay systems, but super clunky actual gameplay, the idea of a full action game doesn't seem too hot though.
Considering Arkane's track record of stellar level design and gameplay systems, but super clunky actual gameplay, the idea of a full action game doesn't seem too hot though.
Ya, the Saga Missions, Endless Survival, Classes, Runes, Skill Trees...I didn't think all that kind of stuff was gonna be in the game. Got me pretty excited.
This week? It's been like this for months. If you went by different leakers or journalists around the web, Battlefield 2042 was supposed to be a Game Pass title, Switch Pro was supposed to have been revealed already, Disco Elysium a PS Plus title in May, Scarlett Nexus a day one Game Pass game, Starfield a spring 2022 title and so on.
They mentioned they will have more to show during the summer. That's when you're getting GoW, Horizon 2, GT7, FF16, Forespoken, GoT expansion etc...
I agree with you that if someone was expecting GoW or whatever than the person has only herself/himself to blame.
I think you said it was Deathloop and indies. Correct me if that's nonsense. But actually the quote was Deathloop, indies and third party. So as long as someone didn't expect first part to be there the possibilies were there.
Personally I didn't expect the world for various reasons (one being I expect another SoP in august or so). However with third party being in there, as per Sony statement, the possibility of FF16, GTA5, ... were there. Not likely, but then again possible, because those are third party games.
Don't get me wrong, managing expectations is important and I have fallen into the trap to often in early days as a gamer to now get ultra hyped for these events. Having said that I can't blame people expecting more then what was shown, as long as the expectation were to see indies and third party. For me there were 3 interesting games Sifu, Judgment and Deathloop, but all of those aren't high up my hype list. So the showcase was a 5/10 for me.
That's not what they were saying at all I don't think but just to give a specific example of why one format is (IMO and I don't think I'd be alone here) superior to the other, it's kinda a bad idea to announce the game that you'll be spending nearly the final 10 minutes of in advance of the presentation, at least if you want it to be exciting. Directs have almost never said what would ultimately turn out to be the final game shown would be ahead of time in the way Sony did for this show-it makes for a much better last impression when you're surprised in that way IMO.
Pretty boring as are all State of Plays and Directs. Such a boring as format to deliver new content.
Looks like I'm buying Death Stranding again
Looks like I'm buying Death Stranding again
Honestly I lose track. But unless someone like Jason Schrier is reporting it, I try not to pay insider gossip too much heed. There's been far too many false rumours spread this last year or two. Granted we've had Covid, so perhaps things are much more dynamic than usual.
Not all rumours are alike either, eg the Switch Pro rumours came from Bloomberg, which is obviously a little different than your typical outlet or insider. Surprised they flubbed that one so spectacularly.
I actually liked that Horizon got a separate show and I think Xbox should replicate those dedicated game shows. However you make a good point when it comes to Ghost of Tsushima. Why not show PS5 gameplay or the trailer at the event and then have devs talk a bit about it. That decision was weird imo.
E3 in June.
Gamescom in August.
Tokyo Game Show in September.
PSX in December.
What was so wrong about this schedule that they needed to change it, I wonder.
Gamescom in August.
Tokyo Game Show in September.
PSX in December.
What was so wrong about this schedule that they needed to change it, I wonder.
The first one had both Japanese and English.
Like A Dragon dub is also pretty good
Personally I think Sony is doing a disservice to State of Plays by keeping all of their big first-party stuff for the major E3-like events.
Nintendo Directs work so well because you can almost always expect some major first-party content to show up. Whether that be something as small as a Smash character or as big as a Smash game reveal. So even when they're not 'the' biggest events for Nintendo it's clear that they're still big events for them.
Meanwhile Sony's very much treating State of Play as a space to show all the "third-class," sort of titles. The VR stuff, the higher-tier indies, the re-releases, the occasional somewhat-big third-party game, and so on. In some cases like this one they don't even try to associate with it by including any of their titles, that's even when they've got stuff like Ghost of Tshushima: DE that they could have easily announced here for extra hype.
So, overall, this means games shown in State of Plays are being placed in a worse position than games shown in Directs as they simply don't have the 'optimism back-up' of those big 1st or 3rd-party titles to make the whole thing feel more worthwhile.
I'm just spit-balling here, really. This may-or-may-not-be true, but it's definitely a trend I've noticed in how different the two "regular console-holder event," shows we have are.
Nintendo Directs work so well because you can almost always expect some major first-party content to show up. Whether that be something as small as a Smash character or as big as a Smash game reveal. So even when they're not 'the' biggest events for Nintendo it's clear that they're still big events for them.
Meanwhile Sony's very much treating State of Play as a space to show all the "third-class," sort of titles. The VR stuff, the higher-tier indies, the re-releases, the occasional somewhat-big third-party game, and so on. In some cases like this one they don't even try to associate with it by including any of their titles, that's even when they've got stuff like Ghost of Tshushima: DE that they could have easily announced here for extra hype.
So, overall, this means games shown in State of Plays are being placed in a worse position than games shown in Directs as they simply don't have the 'optimism back-up' of those big 1st or 3rd-party titles to make the whole thing feel more worthwhile.
I'm just spit-balling here, really. This may-or-may-not-be true, but it's definitely a trend I've noticed in how different the two "regular console-holder event," shows we have are.
lol, you do know that Horizon Forbidden West got an extended State of Play just 1.5 months ago, right?
I did read it and it made no sense.
So they are better because they surprise you with a mystery game? Good grief. I'm not saying that this SoP was mind-blowing, but if that's supposed to be a supporting reason, it's pretty minute to be honest.
Yes, but it wasn't included in "a State of Play." It, like seemingly all other Sony 1st-party games, got its own special event dedicated entirely to it and it alone. Horizon basically never had to 'mingle' with the 'lower-tiers' of games Sony wants to market.
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Then I don't know what to say lol
I don't disagree but some of the posters are incredibly hyperbolic i e. "Don't even hold a SoP then" or "Where was FFXVI, trash" etc.
Then I don't know what to say lol
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*shrugs* Sounds like you just like Nintendo content more so than what Sony is showing considering you believe Nintendo always has something to surprise you with.
Well this was a waste of time.
I was already sold on Deathloop, and the rest didn't do much for me. F.I.S.T. looks okay?
But I really want updates on Little Devil Inside and Stray, c'mon Sony.
I was already sold on Deathloop, and the rest didn't do much for me. F.I.S.T. looks okay?
But I really want updates on Little Devil Inside and Stray, c'mon Sony.
I'm definitely hyped for Deathloop so you aren't crazy my guy lol
If you ignore the fundamental differences in format, which you've been doing all along, then yeah you may be right. But since I'm not then nah.
Deathloop looks boring and console gaming in general is getting very boring as the AAA games take so long to make and are so far few in between these days.