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Star Trek Franchise |OT| To Boldly Go.....
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When Trek has a heavy alien make-up guest star, there is 50% chance it is either Jeffrey Combs or J.G Hertzler.
Was announced quite a while ago.
I remember people saying they should have been extras of the season sets.
Some virtual reunion of the Voyager crew. I was hoping for a table read of Endgame or something.
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I finally finished my first watch through last night. I dug "Endgame" overall. My only complaint is that I wanted more of an epilogue as to how the crew reintegrates back on Earth and where they end up!
I'm also willing to eat a little crow on Tom and B'Elanna. They put in some good work in Season 7 to flesh out that relationship. By the end, I bought in and Tom the husband and soon to be father was a more interesting character with some real growth. I still feel like more could have been done earlier in the series to develop their relationship and chemistry. Kira and Odo they are not, though.;)
I really loved "Homestead". A perfect off-ramp for Neelix as it never made sense for him to follow the crew to Earth. I legit got emotional at the end when the crew sent him off.
Chakotay/Seven.....
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I could have really liked Endgame if the show gave it an extra episode to flesh out the alt-future plot and add a denouement for the Voyager crew when they get back to the AQ.
Chakotay/Seven was bad, yeah, but that's mostly because Chakotay was a noncharacter. I would have struggled to care about any relationship he had.
I mean, it's better than the Doctor getting with her like he wanted. My god dude.
I mean, it's better than the Doctor getting with her like he wanted. My god dude.
i would say so, there's some call backs you'd miss from stuff TNG eps like measure of a man, but I don't think it matters that much.
And yeah Chakotay and Seven were awful, probably worst paring in all of trek tbh.
The Doctor's infatuation was at least sweet and borne out of his genuine want to help her grow out of her shell and into someone that could partake in an intimate relationship. The Chakotay thing from Seven's perspective was basically "Well, I guess it worked in the holodeck so....."
The Doctor was her teacher, father figure, and, oh right, doctor. There's absolutely no way to make that that relationship that wouldn't be creepy as hell, lol.
Oh I'm not advocating for it to have happened but functionally you can see where he would fall in love with her during that process. The progression in that episode was pretty natural. Plus, it payed off with a good laugh when he spills his guts to her when he thought he woule be decompiled later on.
Homestly, Seven didn't need a romantic relationship at all. I would have preferred they spent the time exploring her maternal side with Icheb.
The episode was good, I just kinda think less of the Doctor when I remember it.
And yeah, kinda agreed on Seven not needing a relationship. I sorta rooted for Harry, but that was more out of sympathy for him than anything else. I'd agree that there were other, better directions to take her character.
I didn't hate it, honestly.
I mean that's terrible but I don't care for either character so I think Chakotay/Seven was worse
I like the sentiment behind the Chakotay/Seven relationship, though agree it wasn't done well in the time alotted. Like, he would be her guide to reintegrating with humanity; and of anyone on the crew, sans Janeway, he is the best person for the job.
They were trying to give her arc a conclusion, as well as a happy ending, and with the whole Unimatrix Zero thing I don't even think it was that out of left-field. It just didn't have the time to be satisfying in any way.
And kinda the same thing for Chakotay too, since he (and B'Elanna) would have no Maquis to go back to--instead, they each have a partner.
I think my Voyager rewatch has made me a Voyager stan.
They were trying to give her arc a conclusion, as well as a happy ending, and with the whole Unimatrix Zero thing I don't even think it was that out of left-field. It just didn't have the time to be satisfying in any way.
And kinda the same thing for Chakotay too, since he (and B'Elanna) would have no Maquis to go back to--instead, they each have a partner.
I think my Voyager rewatch has made me a Voyager stan.
If Voyager wasn't about being lost in the Delta Quadrant and wasted so many episodes on the "getting home" problem, then it would have been fine as a TNG clone.
The only thing you'd lose are the Borg episodes, but you could probably rewrite those anyway by having some Borg hang out in the Alpha Quadrant or just, gasp, be original and make up some new enemy like the Hirogen instead.
The only thing you'd lose are the Borg episodes, but you could probably rewrite those anyway by having some Borg hang out in the Alpha Quadrant or just, gasp, be original and make up some new enemy like the Hirogen instead.
Voyager went with the "getting home" premise because the writers were tired and burned out after 7 years of TNG and needed a source of new ideas. But then they almost immediately got bored of "getting home" and talked about jumping the ship home and going back to being a TNG clone.
Ron Moore told them they were crazy for wanting to quit on a perfectly fine idea (an idea which he would go on to steal for his BSG reboot), and also, say they got home, why would any of these people stay on the ship?
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Ron Moore told them they were crazy for wanting to quit on a perfectly fine idea (an idea which he would go on to steal for his BSG reboot), and also, say they got home, why would any of these people stay on the ship?
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I was actually kind of into Worf/Troi. That one episode where Worf gets stuck jumping between alternate timelines really helped sell the concept for me, but also Troi was pretty involved with Alexander and that has to count for something. When they nix the relationship and have Troi get back with Riker I was a little disappointed (though where they've taken that relationship since makes up for it).
Re: Voyager and Endgame, in my headcanon the original future where they get back 13 years later or whatever is still the real timeline.
Re: Voyager and Endgame, in my headcanon the original future where they get back 13 years later or whatever is still the real timeline.
So watching the episode of DS9 where Bashir and O'Brien go to some alien planet to destroy bioweapons called "Harvesters"
Why did they spend a week searching for the exact kind of radiation that would safely destroy them?
You have spaceships, just throw the bloody things into the sun. Wouldn't even take an afternoon and job done.
Why did they spend a week searching for the exact kind of radiation that would safely destroy them?
You have spaceships, just throw the bloody things into the sun. Wouldn't even take an afternoon and job done.
Probably didn't want to risk transporting them.
Low key this is one of the most important episodes of the series.
The things are already on a space station and it's implied that they had to be transported there since the weapons came from two different races stockpiles. Just beam them into an empty box and tractor it into the sun.
Not to mention it's got to be safer than carrying glass canisters of a deadly supervirus BY HAND
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You can't just write things off with the Sun Crusher/Dark Phoenix method of storage! What if they needed to contain a future outbreak? Need the data for controlling the stuff.
Not Star Trek related but I started watching "The Orville" and it's pretty fun 5 episodes in.
It's really good and offers that old Trek style modern Trek abandoned. I feel it handles certain topics better also as it has the stand alone problem of the week structure, but the outcomes are actually seen long term as they get acknowledged in later episodes. It also has a really cheeky nod to Discovery that has to be on purpose.
Oh? (regarding disco) And yeah Orville is pretty good and I hate most of Seths stuff.
the only good part of voyager is seven and the doctor the rest can go die in a fire
