I'd be surprised if Oros wasn't involved in the creation of the DMA somehow.
So the Contact solution.lolI'm going to guess "creatures so incomprehensible that they choose to present themselves as human for our benefit".
I'd be surprised if Oros wasn't involved in the creation of the DMA somehow.
Based on the 1st season, I'm not sure if that's a reprieve.
I didn't mind the episode except having so many key federation leaders on such a dangerous mission seems like a bad idea lol....
Also if the 10-C is this advanced how could they not know there is life in the Milky Way? That would be dumb.
I didn't mind the episode except having so many key federation leaders on such a dangerous mission seems like a bad idea lol....
Also if the 10-C is this advanced how could they not know there is life in the Milky Way? That would be dumb.
Yeah if the view milk way galaxy species as the way we see ants then it makes sense.Could be a situation where they are so advanced that what they consider life worthy of being acknowledged is skewed.
Or this disregard is perpetuated by bad faith actors on their side and is not a reflection of the entire civilization itself.
You're probably right that there's a connection somehow, but if it turns out that Oros is 10-C somehow, and created the DMA to harvest energy for his dimensional transporter with no regard for life because he's pissed at Tarka and his lot in life or something, I'll be pretty pissed. I much prefer the idea that 10-C is something truly alien and maybe unaware of life in the Milky Way.
I will say that Oros' description of this other universe did remind me of the Nexus from Generations. I'm not sure what the show would do with that to make it worthwhile to bring it in but it did sound sort of similar.
I'm already pissed off that Species 10 C isn't going to be Mephisto too but maybe we should wait for the actual reveal before the meltdowns?
Honestly anything they come up with in the finale will be better than the Mass Effect aliens in Picard, so the bar is pretty low right now in my mind. lolAll those Tarka Oros scenes really killed this episode. They just sucked and seemed like a massive waste of time.
They hit on this a little bit with the translators, but I'm still thrown off how the last few episodes everyone has treated 10c as a species to be communicated with who are controlling the DMA like it was a sure thing. That's a lot of hypothetical bridge crossing and assumptions for something that is supposed to be a mystery/unknown.
Ah shit, good point lol. Though I suppose there's still time for a Picard tie in, how timely that would be…Honestly anything they come up with in the finale will be better than the Mass Effect aliens in Picard, so the bar is pretty low right now in my mind. lol
I'm already pissed off that Species 10 C isn't going to be Mephisto too but maybe we should wait for the actual reveal before the meltdowns?
It would just be so fucking hack if it was Oros.I don't have one specific outcome that I have to have or I'll be pissed - but literally every single other theory in this thread is better than it being Oros, IMO.
This isn't the same as the Mephisto hopes in WandaVision. There, the internet had one specific outcome in mind, and were upset that that didn't happen. In this case, it would be
1) the show flat-out lying about Species 10C
2) Using a boring setup episode RIGHT before the reveal to justify the "twist" defying everything that came before
3) repeating the same themes as last season, plus a couple of old Trek movies on top of that
4) Coming on the heels of two disappointing previous season reveals that already pissed off a lot of folks. I'd be more forgiving if it was the first time they pulled this $#!?, but it isn't.
I don't have one specific outcome that I have to have or I'll be pissed - but literally every single other theory in this thread is better than it being Oros, IMO.
What lies and twist though? You seem to have a certainty that is will be Oros, which is why I bring up the Mephisto thing
The Tarka backstory did sap alot of the momentum from this episode but you're posting like you already know what's going to happen rather than speculating
I'm anxious about the species reveal too(which better happen at the top of the episode after being teased for so long) but I'm willing to wait until the actual reveal (hopefully) next week to actively be pissed or disappointed.
I'll be thrilled if I'm wrong - but I've gone from speculating to completely convinced - there's no other way I can see the writers introducing and then concluding the Oros plot thread otherwise. And again, the show has done this before, more than once. I felt the same kinda way when I realized the Red Angel had to be Burnham. It doesn't help that I already came out of episode 10 disappointed in them spinning their wheels - but realizing where it almost certainly fits with the rest of the season just compounded that disappointment because it spits on everything that came before.
And yeah, I consider the writers setting up species 10C as unlike anything we've ever seen only to twist reveal that it's Oros pulling a Star Trek: Insurrection and there being no Species 10C at all to be lying liars who lie (if it indeed happens that way).
But I'm also a little angry with myself for ever thinking Species 10C could be something new and different to Star Trek given they've already squandered every other mystery they've ever introduced.
I will happily eat crow and sing the show's praises if I'm wrong and they actually deliver - just right now I feel that we should ALL know better than to expect them to stick the landing by now.
I doubt there will be the reveal of 10-C next week - they made a point of saying they're going to check out some planet with no life signs near 10-C's energy bubble before going to the bubble itself.
That's what I'm saying, you're already convinced but we actually don't know yet lol
Let me put it this way (and pardon the somewhat strained metaphor):
Say you have a friend of a friend who you know is a scumbag from prior experience. Somehow you get convinced to let him crash on your couch despite your better judgement. One day you wake up, and both him and your Xbox are gone.
Now, maybe this dude is taking your Xbox to go get fixed, or maybe he moved it to another room and went out to run errands. But your blood still boils because you know that the mostly likely scenario is that the scumbag took your Xbox.
Episode 10 felt like waking up to find the Xbox gone(though to a lesser degree of course). And trying to fully explain WHY I'm convinced Discovery is gonna drop the ball and have it be Oros is like trying to explain to an actual friend why you're convinced the scumbag stole your Xbox.
I would like to see more of this new Astrolingustic Dr before first contact but I really hope we don't go another full episode without seeing these jokers
I would love for them to keep the running gag of him stuffing his mouth every time time they cut to him going.
Well, I do appreciate the metaphor and legit laughed out loud
I still think the friend is coming back with the xbox & if we're lucky they'll bring pizza, beer, and edibles
They literally Kes'ed one of them, which I thought was hilarious. This random crew member we didn't know needed to have his goodbye scene.
They literally Kes'ed one of them, which I thought was hilarious. This random crew member we didn't know needed to have his goodbye scene.
You're probably right that there's a connection somehow, but if it turns out that Oros is 10-C somehow, and created the DMA to harvest energy for his dimensional transporter with no regard for life because he's pissed at Tarka and his lot in life or something, I'll be pretty pissed. I much prefer the idea that 10-C is something truly alien and maybe unaware of life in the Milky Way.
I will say that Oros' description of this other universe did remind me of the Nexus from Generations. I'm not sure what the show would do with that to make it worthwhile to bring it in but it did sound sort of similar.
To be far, Q's gambit was more in the vein of "Q nookie with a human is so far out there, it may shock the Q enough to distract everyone from fighting".tbf the 10-c should be FAR beyond our knowledge, Oros shouldn't be able to understand them let alone help them. But then Q needed Janeway to save the continuum so
If season 1 is anything to go by, my expectations are really low for Picard. As for Oros being behind the DMA, I am legit quitting the show. They have an opportunity to show something interesting.There will 100% be a mic drop moment of "Tarka and Oros caused the DMA." (ie caused the 10-C to get curious about something).
I'm really tired of this. I've long since been a Discovery defender but I can't tell you how badly I want this season to be over.
At least there's Picard next week.