Leaks happen and are normal but intentional leaks (without one party being aware of it) like seems to have happened here by Netflix are *not* pretty normal in the industry. This is a massive breach of trust on a project that was very, very early doors and one that most companies worldwide would be very unhappy about.Probably, considering it's another Japanese company. Although I imagine SEGA was more gungho about doing something vs Nintendo, so no convincing needed.
In general though it's pretty normal behavior that doesn't end in a deal being blown up. Could just be more that Nintendo wasn't all that interested to begin with.
They cancelled San Clarita Diet, I always knew they were bastards
If this was 2015? I'm pretty sure they were interested. Think about it.
They have a partnership for theme parks and movies with Universal, they had begun negotiations with Netflix for a Zelda series. College Humor for a probable web series for Star Fox, at the same time they had a small CG short series with Pikmin and a short for Star Fox Zero marketing (and a whole production agreement with the Henson Company during E3. This was legitimately the time they were trying to plant seeds for IP expansion.
This breach of trust rained on their plans a bit and scared them off projects, but they recently announced they were willing to take more risks again.
I can't believe people are calling Nintendo petty. If it's true Netflix leaked intentionally Nintendo has every right to stop the project to which their IP is attached. The pressure on a project like that after a leak must be immense. Plus, it's a pretty big breach of trust in a partnership.
Totally missed that. Link?After all the 2d content that was leaked here in reset era a few months ago, they may cancel 2d mario. The hell. Fox is perfect for a tv series.
Nintendo cancelled a new IP they were working on with High Voltage (The Conduit devs) because somebody leaked it and High Voltage lost Nintendo's trust
Doesn't matter. Disney has kept the NA distribution of Ghibili films for decades and HBO Max still ended up getting streaming rights to it in North America.Zelda seems like a show suited for Disney+ but with nintendo doing a deal with universal for the theme park i cant see that happening. Maybe Amazon could do something but not sure its their type of show.
I believe Adam also mentioned this on an episode of his own podcast Factually a while back. Or maybe it was one of his appearances on Waypoint Radio? A detail he mentioned then was that Netflix intentionally leaked the Zelda show to create buzz, it wasn't some rogue employee or somebody finding out something they shouldn't have.
Oh so THAT's why there is no Netflix app on the switch. All makes sense now...
I'm talking about the nintendo leak. The one with mario 2d sprites and other games from the 16bit era.
Completely different scenarioAfter all the 2d content that was leaked here in reset era a few months ago, they may cancel 2d mario. The hell. Fox is perfect for a tv series.
Yeah leaking stuff to drum up interest isn't exactly a rare thing in the movie and TV industry. What likely happened is they were in early talks, then Netflix leaked it to pull public support and put pressure on the project to be realized and Nintendo was like "Yeah, no."That Netflix Zelda series was in super early talks and didn't even have a writer attached to it. No script. No script treatment. No outline. No jot notes on a torn-out page of a notebook. It was literally nothing.
Netflix: "Hey Nintendo, can we make a Zelda series?"
Nintendo: "Sure, maybe. We'll think about it."
-series leaks via anonymous source on WSJ blog post-
Nintendo: "Hmm, nah."
Netflix tried to do the same thing that Disney did with Sony with the Spider-man movies, trying to use public pressure to have a favored position when it comes to negotiating. Like "Now we have to do the series yes or yes, Nintendo, we have a good grip on you, haha".Seems most people here never had to sign NDA's at their jobs. Breaking one, at the beginning of a partnership, seems like a very good reason to pull off the deal then, when you didn't have any money invested.
Netflix screwed up, it's that simple. Even if they're used to leaking their own shit to generate interest, it doesn't mean every partner will accept it lying down.
There was no bath water to throw out let alone a baby, they'd only started to discuss whether they should even turn the tap on. Any business relationship would be hit hard by that especially in the early stages, definitely enough to end it on the spot - in the business world it's not as extreme reaction as some people here seem to thinkPeople justifying Nintendo's decision. Talking about 'breach of trust'. There's a reason why the idiomatic expression "don't throw away the baby with the bath water" exists.
This was in 2015, when the Wii U was in its death throes as a catastrophic failure and nobody could predict how the market would react to the Switch. Canceling Netflix shows that would have popularized your IP over a single leak seems to be an overreaction.
I'm making a joke. Duh
People justifying Nintendo's decision. Talking about 'breach of trust'. There's a reason why the idiomatic expression "don't throw away the baby with the bath water" exists.
This was in 2015, when the Wii U was in its death throes as a catastrophic failure and nobody could predict how the market would react to the Switch. Canceling Netflix shows that would have popularized your IP over a single leak seems to be an overreaction.