Shinra was closed when Square Enix started working with Ubitus on cloud streaming for games like FFXIIII (iOS, Android) and DQX (3DS, iOS, Android, browser). Ubitus has worked with Capcom, Sega, Ubisoft and others too on streaming console games in Asia.
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This is ultimately why it will happen, and I think eventually cloud gaming can allow for some really exciting possibilities. However, I'm expecting we'll first have to cross a period of time where there is a lot of trial-and-error and anti-consumer shit we have to wade through.
If you're taking the worst case of people just dumping shit, I mean, companies do that too. Even if you take everything Google says is doing is above board, they're not the only ones in the game. I have no idea why they made the Stadia controller the way they did then though. Also, manufacturing isn't just cases, you're still making the actual computer parts and if you're demanding the latest and greatest all the time, that's additional parts being put into circulation that normally doesn't happen. I already conceded gains from running content from the cloud instead of locally so I'm not sure what you're mostly going on about.The big difference with hardware sitting at the average house and hardware in a server environment, is that data centers have a protocol to dispose and recycle the hardware, at least that is the case with Google data centers. How many Playstation 1 and 2, Gamecubes or OG Xboxs are currently in the trash, on their way to a landfill or currently there? Another important factor are the things you don't need to build. Look at the plastic casing used on consoles for example, taking Xcloud as a reference, a single server blade has 8 XBox One S, try fitting the same amount of regular Xboxs in the same space and tell me why you wont be able to do it. It is all about being efficient with cooling, space and energy consumption in a data center environment. You can for example push a lot harder any of the current gen consoles if heat would't be a problem inside the small plastic case. One of the biggest factors and one I cannot see how it can be denied or not be recognized by its importance by anyone, is that if someone buys an Xbox One X and plays a game like Cuphead, that is an extreme waste compared to the same hardware being used to cover the needs of 20 (to use a random example) players at the same time. When you start making the same calculations with millions of gamers playing indie games on consoles, it really does give you a different perspective. How about the stores that are needed to sell the physical games/consoles? There are 5,700 Gamestop stores, how much energy is used there? How much energy is spent by traveling to the store and buying the games/consoles, how much energy is spent by the employees of these stores to go to work?
There will surely be peak times when several high performance games need to run at the same time, but it would be crazy to suggest that it is one to one, as it needs to be in a home environment. It is a fact that the average gamer only uses their console around 6 hours a week and we are talking around 200 million current gen consoles, this is the definition of waste. Phil Spencer has already said that they are investigating on how to use the Xcloud hardware for professional use as well and put that hardware to good use and avoid down time when gamers are not playing as much. It has already been confirmed that Stadia uses GPUs capable of virtualization, just imagine playing an indie game with a fully dedicated 10.7TF instance, that would be another definition of waste. I also don't know how free to play games would work, probably they will be placed under the monthly subscription and in my opinion it would make sense if they do. You don't have to buy the console or gaming PC to play the games after all.
"Headlining the new NRDC report is a staggering figure: If the PS4, Wii U and Xbox One replace the 110 million units of PlayStation 3, Wii and Xbox 360 consoles that were sold in the U.S. from 2005 through 2013, the total energy use of the three current-generation systems will top 10 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity per year — enough to power all of Houston, the nation's fourth-largest city. And that energy total would cost American households $1 billion in annual power bills, with 40 percent of it — $400 million — going to electricity that's wasted while the consoles are in standby mode."
40 percent of PS4, Wii U, Xbox One power usage comes in standby mode, report says
The PlayStation 4 and Xbox One's standby modes and video capabilities are responsible for the vast increases in power usage over their previous-generation versions, according to a new report from...
"RECYCLE: Google maximizes the recycling of all data center materials. For hard drives that can't be resold, Google has a multi-step destruction process designed to further ensure that none of the data can ever be accessed. One step involves a "crusher" that drives a steel piston through the center of the drive, deforming the platters and making them unreadable. The drives are then shredded before the remains are sent along with other electronic waste to a recycling partner for secure processing."
Multiple strategies, including a commitment to find new uses for materials, led to an 86% landfill diversion rate globally for data centers in 2016, with six of Google's 14 data centers reaching 100% diversion.
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Ok but that's not what the thread is about, nor was the post I responded to. I never said those people don't exist. What I'm saying is that "this executive says it's happening so it must be true, and his word has more impact because he's an executive" is a poor line of reasoning."We'll have Tokyo Olympic in the year of 2020, and also the extreme change in entertainment industry will come in next 10 years with the arrival of the streaming and AI. I'd like to create something related to such new media and totally brand new entertainment for the tomorrow."
"I'm very interested in the new format of game that will appear on there, and that's what I want to take on."
Electronic Arts Chief Technology Officer Ken Moss said the developers at DICE could be unshackled by the hardware potential of the cloud and deliver a lifelike rendition of destruction in Battlefield.
"I'm super excited about [streaming], but it's actually one step on a journey. The main difference in cloud is not really that the CPU is sitting in a big building versus being in your living room; the main difference is now you can have dozens or hundreds or thousands or millions of computers that can do stuff to help power the game.
If you apply that to an actual game like Battlefield... DICE prides itself on amazing destruction. They blow stuff up better than anyone. But the simulations they do for destruction are very limited compared to what they would really like to do, because they have a certain amount of GPU and a certain amount of CPU and they have to do it in real time. If they could have a pool of servers up there that can be running our physics engine in Frostbite and be calculating better destruction, it can be like real life.
And you can apply that not just to blowing things up. You can apply that to really every part of the game."
Gwen Frey, indie developer behind Kine.
"It's the best of PC and the best of console. One specific set of hardware, but it's not limited by a specific box. Consoles are a pain in the ass."
Raúl Rubio Munárriz, Creative Director at Tequila Works
"You used to have to allocate resources to AI and physics and that's no longer the case. It's like finding yourself suddenly with no body. Power isn't relevant any more. For developers, that's really good."
David Canela, Project Lead on GYLT.
"It's rare that development goes to 30 or 60fps throughout development, but we had a high framerate for most of it.
The fact you're only streaming video from servers, lag for online games is reduced a lot. They have the machines, they're connected and they are very fast. That's a meaningful change for the future."
"I think that the more interesting question is how stuff like Google Stadia will change things," he says. "In the data center, these machines are connected to each other, and so you could start thinking of doing things like elastic rendering, like make a couple of servers together, to do physics simulations that may not be possible on current local hardware."
Larian CEO Swen Vincke believes that streaming technology will achieve what conventional technology cannot
Swen Vincke, the CEO of Divinity developer Larian, is much more excited about streaming and cloud technology than the a…www.vg247.com
I said that to underline the fact I think an executives word is worth jack shit. I don't know why you felt prompted to show me people who said those things. If you didn't think I don't know they exist, why show them to me lol. This thread is about executives at SE, and the post I responded to was about exectuives at SE.
I didn't "ask" for a developer statement on this. I said the word of a dev is worth more to me than the word of an executive, and that in this instance, the one this thread is about, it's the word of an executive. That's literally all I said. And I never denied those words from devs exist.
My point was that PR people would say that shit regardless. I'm really sorry I didn't jump in extacy because you shared a PR spokespersons "wisdom" with us, even if he's by default not wrong.
Even if you won't replay just let me say this:
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Weird blog website but I feel like we have been hearing this for ages. How exactly would those "unique" cloud experiences look like? We heard back when watch dogs 1 was announced that the game would be better on xbox thanks to the power of the cloud. i think we need to see some real life case studys to see whats gonna be so unique about cloud games."Cloud gaming will meanwhile dictate that the industry devise gaming experiences unique to the cloud environment and develop cloud-native games."
"The market for software for consumer game consoles looks poised for further growth given the launch of multiple streaming services and the fact that next-generation consoles are slated for release in 2020. In addition, the various styles of monetization, such as free-to-play, in-game purchases, and subscriptions have also spread to the market for software for consumer game consoles, making for a greater diversity of
business models. As the launch of 5G cellular networks accelerates these trends and full-fledged cloud streaming platforms come online, a new age is likely to begin."
Square Enix "Launch of Multiple Streaming Services" coming Soon and Cloud Only Games
The Square Enix financial report has come out today and there is some interesting reading for Cloud Gaming enthusiasts. Square Enix is fully committed and one could say all-in in cloud gaming with the talk in their report. They see cloud gaming to take off especially when 5G becomes more...
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