Oh how that blade cuts.
so should we add cum town to the op now?
i had no idea it was a socialist podcast but they're friends with chapo so they must be
Are people really arguing in favor of means testing Covid relief?
If the concern is that rich people will get it too, it's a stupid concern. First, rich people are a relative handful of the population. It's not going to bankrupt our treasury to the tune of trillions because a few richies got a thousand bucks extra. Secondly, just tax them back for it latter if that's such a concern, but right now it is imperative that we get money to people who need it and not make it a daunting task with means testing in any way.It appears so. I just do not understand the fascination with means-testing. Unless it's a poison pill meant to guarantee that Americans don't come to demand these benefits permanently?
Stay strong and sane!I hope you guys are well. I am stuck in the woods of Ohio and can't get to France to be with my wife for god knows how long now that the borders are closed. I tried really hard to get out of NY and I managed, but I didn't get out quickly enough to get to France. Really miserable and have been having bad thoughts. Right now I am with my brother in law who lives in a McMansion and extreme parasite vibes are being felt. This place is so weird - truck with a plow, guns, pitbull, a boat of all fucking things. I feel like I'm in a terrible movie. I'm grateful to be here, though.
Someone please recommend me some things to read for these horrible times.
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so should we add cum town to the op now?
i had no idea it was a socialist podcast but they're friends with chapo so they must be
Haymarket Books on Twitter
“For the next two weeks, we're offering ten FREE Ebooks so that you can join us. Please help us spread the word. https://t.co/rYF3PGLsGu”twitter.com
Haymarket hooking people up.
Here's the direct link: https://www.haymarketbooks.org/blogs/112-ten-free-ebooks-from-haymarket-books
The response to the crisis has been fascinating in how it has demonstrated our ability to do things people consistently say is too difficult to do is in reality basically just a finger snap away from happening, and all it takes to do it is have the courage to actually do it.
so should we add cum town to the op now?
i had no idea it was a socialist podcast but they're friends with chapo so they must be
The Black Death did not bring about the collapse of European feudalism and COVID-19 will not come close to the impact of the Black Death, although I'm a bit out of my element here. Humans are very very good at going back to business-as-usual, one might say its our greatest evolutionary adaptation.
It wasn't a direct process but some historical sources attribute the drop in agricultural output from feudal systems of land management as one of the forces that allowed for a greater spread of commerce outside Genoa and Venice.The Black Death did not bring about the collapse of European feudalism and COVID-19 will not come close to the impact of the Black Death, although I'm a bit out of my element here. Humans are very very good at going back to business-as-usual, one might say its our greatest evolutionary adaptation.
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i mean, who knows, but my guess is that the fatalism of spring breakers has more to do with a political/social culture in which individuals are led to believe that they cannot meaningfully effect societal change than it does with "moral instinct"
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That's fair, but their own reasoning for it also points to that extreme individualism where people seem to believe their selfishness is heroic defiance. Which is also reasonable under a culture that has pushed that idea forever, but most people escaped that for this situation.
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i think that's the central tension of the neoliberal condition: an extreme individualism that masks an extreme pessimism/fatalism
If anything it's going to be the economic ripple effect that will really start getting people agitated. I just don't think enough people are going to die for folks to be universally hurt deep enough to ignore media spin and be out for revenge against this system that kills. (The threshold for that I'm thinking of would be 1 in every 150 people dying; related to that "tribe" number within Dunbar's Number theory.)Not to be morbid, but I simply think there will be too much damage done to society for us to go back to neoliberal late stage capitalism. Too many families burying their loved ones, too many businesses and careers ruined, too many homes lost, too much cultural and psychological trauma. Nobody will forget this. This very well may be the most defining moment of the 21st century.
That isn't a guarantee that what will come after will be better, but I think it will be different.
We also gotta replace the conservative deficit hawk democrats with some real progressiveI really do hope that Americans can see and wake up from the small-government bullshit the GOP has peddled for 40 years. Not to solely blame Republicans. Clinton had a passed a criminal welfare reform act and Obama basically rewarded Wall Street for the criminality, while tons of Americans lost their homes, only to be gobbled by corporations. The incompetence of the response by Trump was only exacerbated by destroying important federal agencies.
We've hollowed out our institutions so much that Trump's first big meeting on the virus was basically to bring F500 CEOs to the table, corporations with no expertise in pandemics. It's embarrassing. But I don't trust America honestly to wake up sadly. The oligarchs will continue to loot the working class, hollowing out infrastructure and essential services, and so on.
Neoliberalism needs to die.
I really do hope that Americans can see and wake up from the small-government bullshit the GOP has peddled for 40 years. Not to solely blame Republicans. Clinton had a passed a criminal welfare reform act and Obama basically rewarded Wall Street for the criminality, while tons of Americans lost their homes, only to be gobbled by corporations. The incompetence of the response by Trump was only exacerbated by destroying important federal agencies.
We've hollowed out our institutions so much that Trump's first big meeting on the virus was basically to bring F500 CEOs to the table, corporations with no expertise in pandemics. It's embarrassing. But I don't trust America honestly to wake up sadly. The oligarchs will continue to loot the working class, hollowing out infrastructure and essential services, and so on.
Neoliberalism needs to die.
I noticed that too. 🤣
Yeps.I love how every single tweet in his thread got ratioed to hell. Get fucked lol.
Sorry, luv. It's reals.
Good point, it's just as likely that they think they want good things but don't know what good things actually are and so end up wanting and doing bad things.An establishment democrat would use one wish to find out if the wishes actually worked and the results were as described and not some monkey paw abomination.
What an awful and yet illuminating tweet. Yeah, the problem is democrats just don't want good things. Sure.