Yeah what the hell is that post? The James Gunn firing was done by some prominent alt-right figure because he was talking negatively about Trump. It's absolutely political.
Yeah what the hell is that post? The James Gunn firing was done by some prominent alt-right figure because he was talking negatively about Trump. It's absolutely political.
I don't see where the poster made an implication of that kind.That's not what the poster means when he wants a politics subforum. People saying yes to that want any kind of politics banished to that thread so they can talk about games without having to read about game companies treat women like shit etc.
It's vastly different to what the mods attempted with an Entertainment and an Etcetera section that still allows politics overlap.
i like how people like to pretend that politics don't permeate everything and that wanting "politics" cordoned off to be optionally "ignored" isn't a political statement in itself
We don't know, last we heard he was in ER
I am a non-american and I don't mind the news. Gives some perspectiveNo shit. A non-American getting choked by US news I can almost sympathize with, but anything else has super suspect motives in my eyes.
It's vastly different to what the mods attempted with an Entertainment and an Etcetera section that still allows poli
seriously, what is so hard to understand about this?I like how people keep pretending that everyone only consumes ResetEra and no other media or news outlets, and this wanting a separate section for politics means they are super privileged white people who dont consume any politics ever.
If it's not on ResetEra, it doesnt exist!
It does the opposite as well- compare Poliera at any given time to the newest "Dems are now +12 on the general ballot instead of +14" thread. OTs are great because it gives a space for non-reactionary discussions AND things that aren't necessarily new news. Just don't put them on the same page as everything else.I feel like OTs contain a whole lot of people who would otherwise try to make threads about edgy/inflammatory opinions they have. The types people make threads for months later, but would be chaos upon release.
Also, without OTs, larger releases would dominate forums for weeks at a time. That alone makes them worth it.
He made a thread in emergency with his pancreas in trouble then went silent like over a month ago
Who knew this is what came after the singularity?
YepIf we're only adding one forum, replace politics with 'Disney Owned IP's'
Everything is political. Thinking otherwise is stupid as hell. Go download the hide threads extension if you want to stick your head in the sand.
That is not good. Does anyone have a way to check to see if he is OK?He made a thread in emergency with his pancreas in trouble then went silent like over a month ago
I appreciate deltaplus and Nibel actually engaging with us over the last day or so, it's a marked change from what has been happening over the last six months or so. Please continue, and encourage all other admins to do so as well.
I do hope the suggestions in the pre-fiasco thread are being considered, as they are much less drastic and contribute to a better user experience. I don't really have a problem with people who contribute more on the site (and not just post counts) to have a voice in potential changes, but you also need a representative poll to counter bias.
Separating Entertainment and everything else isn't even the worst idea, but I thought it would have been obvious that sports threads would have been de-facto stickied threads because of how active they are. It was a case of the rich getting richer, not actually solving the stated issue. One way to help drive traffic to community threads that don't get exposure is to ask those creators if they'd like their threads stickied in the main forum for a week, and choose three at a time and move them over and sticky. When the week is up, the next set moves in. If a week goes by and no traffic happens, then the community needs to just be. We can also help drive traffic in related threads by merging. Let's face it - not everything needs a thread. There's already a ton of great discussion going on in threads, and the constant want to fracture a string of communication by having an offshoot thread is one of the bizarre aspects of this forum - I can't think of another forum that I've been on that works that way, and I'm talking since the CompuServe days. I'm an old.
deltaplus
During the short-lived Entertainment-era a useful listing was made of all the hangout threads currently around, a sticky thread with that list could be made in Etcetera to shine a light on them.
anyone compiled a list of posts suggesting the staff might be alt-right sympathizers? for the sake of community spirit and all.
Probably going to regret this post, but fuck it.
I'm one of the "prominent members", or one of the shadow cabal. Not going to name others because the amount of vitriol towards those folks I've seen in this thread and others is quite frankly disgusting. Do note that not everyone with my tag is a "prominent member", so please don't harass them.
In my case, it's odd because I create threads for a niche of a niche, in this case college football discussion on a gaming board. I've been doing so for the past couple years, and it's something I really enjoy doing. However, I had a long standing issue with GAF about the placement of our threads. College football is only an active sport for four months of the year, and so I thought it was reasonable to have us on the main off-topic board for the season while sticking us in the Communities section for the rest. We have a disproportionate amount of mods/admins compared to the size of our community who, when the switch happened, recognized my grievance and thus included me in input for the new site, hence the "advisor" tag when I really had very little to do with the creation of the new site.
Last week, I was PM'd to discuss this change, which was already set in motion. I was in favor for the reasons I just mentioned. To further clarify my reasoning, on both here and GAF we tended to have more discussion when on the main OT board. Americans relate to college sports quite a bit, and so while they might not seek out discussion on them when consigned to a secondary board, they might drop in and post about how their team is doing if the thread was already on a board they visited. Which was awesome! I love talking about college football with as many people as possible while also not being on a team specific board or reddit, which I think is why we have maintained a core community since that niche does exist.
While I don't think the change itself was a disaster, clearly the handling of it was, and I haven't been happy with how other site issues have been handled before y'all jump on me for being a mod puppet.
I dunno, AMA or whatever.
Is Syder part of the conspiracy
Lenovox is talking about the post-shower period up until the last week or so when they intoduced a Politics subforum, I think. GAF has a ton of racist stuff these days.
Nobody was ever banned here, or at GAF, for supporting Trump.
People have been banned here, or at GAF, for making disingenuous/trolling/circular and tireless arguments about things that either were, or dogwhistled/deliberately walked the edge of, things that were racist/sexist/xenophobic/etc and not coincidentally, exist within the Trump and current spectrum of conservatism.
During the primaries, Bernie supporters were in that same position.
The change happened a few weeks ago.
When you speak of a few weeks ago do you speak in the present tense?
Nobody has heard from him in a while, it's actually very concerning. :(
The last official feedback thread I remember got locked right quick.The thing about that, though, is that we had a feedback thread about a month ago (like a real, 'hey, give us feedback' thread). The suggestion was brought up there to very mixed feelings. So it's not like they didn't already know splitting the forum was a controversial idea. Maybe they thought there would be more support overall though, I dunno. I was in that thread, too, though, and I recall more negative on the idea than positive though.
This is completely honest jarate right here
We did not decide on anything. We were presented an idea that they were going to do something, and we were asked what we thought and given a small form to fill out. Most people's response was, "eh whatever let's see what happens" more then us going, "hell yeah this is going to help our community thread so much"
I've always been the mindset of just to try it out and see what happens. I think that was also told to us in a reasonable way that the changes they were planning weren't entireley set in stone. I think the initial push should've just been a lot more open about that aspect. I think it would've limited a lot of the meltdowns people had.
Probably going to regret this post, but fuck it.
I'm one of the "prominent members", or one of the shadow cabal. Not going to name others because the amount of vitriol towards those folks I've seen in this thread and others is quite frankly disgusting. Do note that not everyone with my tag is a "prominent member", so please don't harass them.
In my case, it's odd because I create threads for a niche of a niche, in this case college football discussion on a gaming board. I've been doing so for the past couple years, and it's something I really enjoy doing. However, I had a long standing issue with GAF about the placement of our threads. College football is only an active sport for four months of the year, and so I thought it was reasonable to have us on the main off-topic board for the season while sticking us in the Communities section for the rest. We have a disproportionate amount of mods/admins compared to the size of our community who, when the switch happened, recognized my grievance and thus included me in input for the new site, hence the "advisor" tag when I really had very little to do with the creation of the new site.
Last week, I was PM'd to discuss this change, which was already set in motion. I was in favor for the reasons I just mentioned. To further clarify my reasoning, on both here and GAF we tended to have more discussion when on the main OT board. Americans relate to college sports quite a bit, and so while they might not seek out discussion on them when consigned to a secondary board, they might drop in and post about how their team is doing if the thread was already on a board they visited. Which was awesome! I love talking about college football with as many people as possible while also not being on a team specific board or reddit, which I think is why we have maintained a core community since that niche does exist.
While I don't think the change itself was a disaster, clearly the handling of it was, and I haven't been happy with how other site issues have been handled before y'all jump on me for being a mod puppet.
I dunno, AMA or whatever.
We probably never will, overall, this forum is less 'fun' than old neogaf, which is where those memes came from, and with the climate of the US right now, all we talk about is politics.
Entirely correct. I'm assuming that they did some legwork given their messaging around wanting to improve OT community engagement. But they probably should've collected more data on why people weren't engaging with them and whether or not it was even because of their location in Hangouts.This is all solid advice.
I think before this type of experimental design is even considered though, they need to work on seeing if this is even worth it by looking at qualitative information from the community, which requires a whole different set of methodologies. AB testing might be really difficult to implement technically, but qualitative research methods can be really easy to pick up and don't require testing hypotheses and not violating assumptions that you might with an AB test (or t-test, as we call in my discipline). That information is readily available and can be done so long as mods are willing to actually read and code feedback in these sorts of threads.
I actually bought out the ResetEra admins on behalf of a Qatari consortium in August.
Almost every time in the past I've read people want that kind of subforum it was something along those lines. Very rarely I just see somebody argue for that because they're specifically tired of Trump threads, I give you that. But that doesn't really warrant a structure change, and instead a hide thread function based on keywords.I don't see where the poster made an implication of that kind.
I don't really see the merit in that. It seems like arbitrary splitting to me. Video games and non-VGs works well. You could justify comic or movie sections as well, but many past forums have not benefitted from that kind of structuring. As said above I think what you guys want is a native thread hide function.When I say politics I mean US politics, EU response to Britain in regards to Brexit etc. you know actual politics
Isn't this the way things have always been? It was like this this past weekend yeah? Like that makes total sense, but even then it gets completely undone when all of the constantly active threads are sharing the same platform.I thought it was reasonable to have us on the main off-topic board for the season while sticking us in the Communities section for the rest.
Yep. Resettler tag doesn't mean you was asked.I would just like to clarify that not all community resettlers are "prominent members".
It was most likely just resettlers for etcetera OTs, for example neither me or Kyolux were asked about this as resettlers with threads in the gaming section.
What hilarious revisionist history. GAF was a near-extreme leftist echo chamber that blew up because it couldn't withstand the community's purity testing and hypocritical moderation practices. You were banned just for hinting at Trump support there - just like here.
The change is supposedly meant to target OTs, specifically those with little activity. I guess they wanted to see what their target thinks more than they want to see what the rest do?Again, why not have an open poll about what to do? Why get such a small sample size of a forum that's 40k strong?
It was clearly about the recent past, right after the mass exodus.
Probably going to regret this post, but fuck it.
I'm one of the "prominent members", or one of the shadow cabal. Not going to name others because the amount of vitriol towards those folks I've seen in this thread and others is quite frankly disgusting. Do note that not everyone with my tag is a "prominent member", so please don't harass them.
In my case, it's odd because I create threads for a niche of a niche, in this case college football discussion on a gaming board. I've been doing so for the past couple years, and it's something I really enjoy doing. However, I had a long standing issue with GAF about the placement of our threads. College football is only an active sport for four months of the year, and so I thought it was reasonable to have us on the main off-topic board for the season while sticking us in the Communities section for the rest. We have a disproportionate amount of mods/admins compared to the size of our community who, when the switch happened, recognized my grievance and thus included me in input for the new site, hence the "advisor" tag when I really had very little to do with the creation of the new site.
Last week, I was PM'd to discuss this change, which was already set in motion. I was in favor for the reasons I just mentioned. To further clarify my reasoning, on both here and GAF we tended to have more discussion when on the main OT board. Americans relate to college sports quite a bit, and so while they might not seek out discussion on them when consigned to a secondary board, they might drop in and post about how their team is doing if the thread was already on a board they visited. Which was awesome! I love talking about college football with as many people as possible while also not being on a team specific board or reddit, which I think is why we have maintained a core community since that niche does exist.
While I don't think the change itself was a disaster, clearly the handling of it was, and I haven't been happy with how other site issues have been handled before y'all jump on me for being a mod puppet.
I dunno, AMA or whatever.
I'm wondering why it's allowed to insult the mod team and insinuate their bigots in not so subtle terms?
It happens often enough without any bans handed out that I've made note of it. I have my own issues with moderation here, and quite a few posters find the time to vent their frustrations in good faith. But the many who don't go below the belt often and get away with it, honestly makes me not take any moderation here seriously. Especially since the posters in question tend to start shit with everyone knowing full well there won't be repercussions coming their way.
Saw that mods were replying here so thought I'd ask about this, as in spite of my own issues with moderation you are a very much a diverse mod team and go out of your way to be inclusive in my view. So when I see this not being addressed by you, I don't see the point in participating in other threads because of said vocal and volatile minority. And I assume more widespread participation is what you were looking for in what is now a failed update.
Everything about what you said was completely reasonable. If people jump on you for this, it's a them problem.
I, personally, think the leaving in the main forum for the first couple of weeks or so is fine, as pretty much any sports thread is super active. After that though, the sports threads aren't going to drown in Hangouts. They are the good swimmers.
A lot of Etc OTs are dying and/or need some new blood in them simply because a lot of users don't visit that sub forum specifically, so I thought the idea was good because it would give communities another chance to live.
And if that results in James Gunn thread #143 being bumped from page 1, do be it
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