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So.... what happened?
- Thread starter DrForester
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Assuming prominent members means the people who post in almost every thread and have a fanbase here every time they post....those are the last people I'd want opinions from. They're drawn to drama.
Way too much of a popularity club around here sometimes.
Glad the change got reverted
Way too much of a popularity club around here sometimes.
Glad the change got reverted
Agree with all this. The mod/admin team here can be uncomfortably rigid.
I really can't imagine why they don't want to be named when you look around the forum and discussion surrounding this..
I was one, community resettlers and people that make the threads were asked. I had no problem with the idea.
We were told what was going to happen a few days before it did, the wheels were already in motion. Shitting on "prominent members" for no reason
Yep. The big error was just announcing something based on a situation most users didn't care about (OT usage stats); whilst generally just ignoring the concerns about the impact this would have on the threads those users did care about.
If the team had a concern then I think the best thing is to raise it and see what people think. The fact spotlight OTs hardly gain extra traction should have told the story though imo.
This feels like night/day era all over again. Except they didn't leave in the old "legacy" style, so they had to change the whole site back.
Why can't the staff just listen to the community? You know the point of this forum existing in the first place.
Why can't the staff just listen to the community? You know the point of this forum existing in the first place.
Not all the time no. Sometimes I just want to look for new media to consume.
I do hope the Era team can adiquitly respond to the concerns being raised. To say the handling had been poor would be a understatement.
Anyway. Congrats to the admin team for almost reaching 1 year without stepping in it massively tho. Almost made it! Mistakes will happen. But it's how you handle them that will define you. So get to it I guess?
Anyway. Congrats to the admin team for almost reaching 1 year without stepping in it massively tho. Almost made it! Mistakes will happen. But it's how you handle them that will define you. So get to it I guess?
nah, I'm good. I'm good enough at this that I deserve to get paid for it.
because I give a shit about resetera.
Bad management is what kills forums more than anything else. If there are people who are making decisions that harm the community, they do not deserve to be in power. The goal of forum moderation/administration is to ensure the community thrives. By making decisions that harm the community, like this one, those people have demonstrated that they do not deserve the power they have. That is worse than being someone who posts constant toxic bullshit, because one person can be ignored; forum decisions can't.
Someone who makes decisions like this is either stupid, unwise, or a genuinely bad person. You don't want that kind of person running a forum, because they'll drive it into the fucking ground in the name of their power.
Mixing OTs with regular threads was a really bad idea IMO.
If you had just made a 5th sub-forum, I don't think we would have had as much as a fuss.
Constructive criticism:
- if you want to get more people in the community threads, maybe have a newsletter highlighting some of the more popular ones?
- if this was to seperate politics from other news, why not create a tag system wherein threadmakers click a box stating the thread being started is political and any member who wishes to not see any political news will be able to filter them out in a setting.
I'm sorry the mods spent so much time on this in any case.
If you had just made a 5th sub-forum, I don't think we would have had as much as a fuss.
Constructive criticism:
- if you want to get more people in the community threads, maybe have a newsletter highlighting some of the more popular ones?
- if this was to seperate politics from other news, why not create a tag system wherein threadmakers click a box stating the thread being started is political and any member who wishes to not see any political news will be able to filter them out in a setting.
I'm sorry the mods spent so much time on this in any case.
I wonder if the second point is what prompted the quick rollback
0.005 Bison dollars.
Provided Bison does take over the world of course.
Hi y'all,
I'm here to answer questions y'all might have about the changes and the reversion. I'm on a plane flying back from visiting family so just a heads up in case I don't respond immediately (airplane wifi sucks).
For a quick tldr, you can find an overview of what happened here (https://www.resetera.com/threads/back-to-normal.66147/).
EDIT: If y'all can tag me, it'll make it easier to sort through the questions.
I'm here to answer questions y'all might have about the changes and the reversion. I'm on a plane flying back from visiting family so just a heads up in case I don't respond immediately (airplane wifi sucks).
For a quick tldr, you can find an overview of what happened here (https://www.resetera.com/threads/back-to-normal.66147/).
EDIT: If y'all can tag me, it'll make it easier to sort through the questions.
This mysterious Prominent Members thing seems like it was a very Animal Farm-esque reversal of policy.
ResetEra started with a very clear statement that there would not be a class system of members.
For what it's worth, this actually was explained in the announcement thread by BronsonLee but it got lost in the shuffle.
People who were most active in community threads nominated other active members in those communities and that's who the prominent members were. Later another poster, who I forget, who was part of this said it was roughly 50 people. I don't think anyone was ever revealed or came forward though
did people really go through with this tho
i just threatened to do it, lol. would have been too lazy to actually do it when it was evident the change would be reverted very soon anyway
So uh... why not do the change they did, but have entertainment hangout and etcetera hangout sections? It'd solve the visibility problem of some communities and not clog up any forums with OTs.
That's too bad. It sounds like there were larger reasons for the reversal but I thought the idea of an entertainment forumfwhere we could discuss non-games entertainment had merit. Assuming that was the idea.
ahem
Prominent members was an admittedly poor choice of words, used in passing in the original announcement. The administration has since indicated that it simply refers to a convenience sample in community threads, not a shadow council of mod favorites.
thank you
Prominent members was an admittedly poor choice of words, used in passing in the original announcement. The administration has since indicated that it simply refers to a convenience sample in community threads, not a shadow council of mod favorites.
thank you
Never stop rebooting!
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The entertainment section being your racist old grandma that everyone tolerated for awhile, but mostly just tried to ignore. Now, let us never speak of it again.
yep, people still being assholes about it are really taking it overboard.
You know what's annoying? Giving attention to people that make stupid posts like the one you're referencing. We all know it was a dumb post but people will keep bringing it up as a joke and it takes away from real criticisms.
I didn't like the changes and how they went about implementing them, but I do appreciate the admins taking a step back and reversing course. It would have been easy to ignore the outcry and just shove the change down our throats and go about business, but they didn't. So thank you, for whatever that's worth.
I don't post as much as I used to and have become mostly a lurker. The change was bad imho. As many have said new news ended up being drowned out by OT's. A majority of people on this forum probably aren't visiting OT community threads like they said I think. But that's most forums. A lot of people are just going to lurk then eventually join. This change wasn't going to convert lurkers or increase community traffic.
Your vastly downplaying what happened.
-People were "told" the day before in a single thread that nobody paid attention.
-The explanations were not clear.
-The discussion was not open and no real concerns were addressed.
-It was done in the middle of the night the next day, startling most every user that didn't pay attention to that one thread a day before.
-It sucked. There was no official feedback page, no welcome back message to explain why this happened and where to address concerns. A separate thread was made by regular members in which about only one mod actively engaged in discussion about the matter and it took a while for that discussion to even get stickied.
-After this out pour, the changed was reverted.