That's an observation that makes absolutely sense.It takes place in San Francisco. It needs Asians and Hispanics too.
That's an observation that makes absolutely sense.It takes place in San Francisco. It needs Asians and Hispanics too.
Square Enix is not an American company. They probably have no idea why there would be backlash.
There is absolutely no reason to not include PoC. If there is more than one person on screen they should have different backgrounds. And we should never have a group of just white people. There should be PoC on "everything we touch". And we shouldn't have to wait. There should be PoC from the jump.
There's always a reason not to include PoC, although they're rarely better than reasons to include them.
You can absolutely have more than one person on screen without that requirement. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to direct anything while having to adhere to this idea?
Your last point is just too broad of a statement to seriously deal with, so I'm just assuming you don't mean that literally. Otherwise, you're being very unreasonable.
On "everything we touch"? That's not a legit question.How would it be difficult or unreasonable to include PoC? Not trying to be confrontational legit question.
The original Avengers are Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-man and Wasp. This idea of "original Avengers" is very arbitrary considering the movie already went with a different original lineup. They could easily have any other character there and it still would be the Avengers.Seriously, these threads are getting really tiresome. There is no PoC in the original Avengers, I don't get the surprise. It's not like they purposely took X guy/girl out of the game for reasons.
Context is everything, I'm obviously not talking about the 1963 comics. This game is clearly based on the MCU.The original Avengers are Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-man and Wasp. This idea of "original Avengers" is very arbitrary considering the movie already went with a different original lineup. They could easily have any other character there and it still would be the Avengers.
What does PoC stand for? It's nowhere in the top google hits...
Person of colorWhat does PoC stand for? It's nowhere in the top google hits...
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The way you looked at the one I was quoting?
That part of my comment was directly aimed at the *everything we touch* part of the quoted post.
At most, I could've made that more clear, but that's it.
Square Enix is not an American company. They probably have no idea why there would be backlash.
There is absolutely no reason to not include PoC. If there is more than one person on screen they should have different backgrounds. And we should never have a group of just white people. There should be PoC on "everything we touch". And we shouldn't have to wait. There should be PoC from the jump.
Square Enix isn't doing anything with this project. Every western developed game is managed and published by Square Enix Europe for obvious reasons of distribution, language and travelling. Not only that but Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal are the developers so the JP argument don't make sense at all.
To definitively show your question to me was not in good faith.
Now that's done.
They went with the MCU AVENGERS 1 team, that's it. There is no anti-POC conspiracy here and even then, Kamala Khan will be there in the full game as will others
Their big game has a PoC
that's the thing, it's also not really the movie lineup, because hawkeye is missing, and they showed hank pym, while the movies used Scott Lang.
So essentially they could have used whatever lineup they wanted.
I agree with you especially since this is the first reveal but them revealing Ant-Man/Hank at the end sorta stings.
Like ya'll really couldn't have used that opportunity to tease Nick Fury, Black Panther, or Kamala Khan instead? Jeez.
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Context is everything, I'm obviously not talking about the 1963 comics. This game is clearly based on the MCU.
Seriously, these threads are getting really tiresome. There is no PoC in the original Avengers, I don't get the surprise. It's not like they purposely took X guy/girl out of the game for reasons.
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Very weird statement, considering this is a thread about Marvel...
Pym throws a monkey wrench in that. If they are using pym why not use anyone else at that pointContext is everything, I'm obviously not talking about the 1963 comics. This game is clearly based on the MCU.
Exactly. Black Nick Fury was a retcon in the first place.I see. I still don't see why you wouldn't be able to include a PoC in every piece of media.
There's no reason to not retcon or modify to include a PoC.
I know.
But what I'm trying to say is that precisely because we have had many retcons changing race, color skin or gender of different characters, I thought we could for once try to respect the creator's vision.
What are you saying in reference to comics makes little sense because a lot of the original creators are dead and welcomed wild interpretations.I know.
But what I'm trying to say is that precisely because we have had many retcons changing race, color skin or gender of different characters, I thought we could for once try to respect the creator's vision.
I know.
But what I'm trying to say is that precisely because we have had many retcons changing race, color skin or gender of different characters, I thought we could for once try to respect the creator's vision.
What are you saying in reference to comics makes little sense because a lot of the original creators are dead and welcomed wild interpretations.
And if you mean the studio producing it, their vision is open to be criticized and isnt some infallible golden goose
I don't see any reason why, in a space lacking in diversity, we should feel obligated to respect the vision of a creator that goes against a concept we're pushing for...I know.
But what I'm trying to say is that precisely because we have had many retcons changing race, color skin or gender of different characters, I thought we could for once try to respect the creator's vision.
I don't see any reason why, in a space lacking in diversity, we should feel obligated to respect the vision of a creator that goes against a concept we're pushing for...
And you make it seem as if the retcons somehow aren't the creators' vision themselves...
Sure, if you skip the entire first half of the post you just quoted, totally...Precisely, since retcons are creator's visions, not doing retcons should be treated as well, right?
I was thinking the former? Ethnicity, sexual orientation and gender up for grabs. Very least they could do is make gender and ethnicity customizable on all the heros.