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Sigh, CNN headlines has ruined my LG OLED B6 tv....
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You gotta mix up your content. If you're watching hours of only one thing was static logos and stuff... you'll get burn in. If that's what you do, don't get OLED.
Sigh, so my girl watches a lot of cnn news.... and today I got home and guess what? burn in with a huge CNN Live on the bottom right corner..
bummer.. tv is about 4 years old but man... how do you OLED owners do with the news? just don't watch it a lot?
I'm bummed.. I really don't want any other tv besides an OLED but now i am on the fence....is there proof the new OLED tvs handle burn-ins better now?
pic below: abit blurry
sighh.
That's nothing OP, you should be able to watch regular TV fine as well as play games fine..
Now when you get the yellowgreenish tint in the middle of the screen š¬ is when it will be distracting. This mostly happens with those 2016 and older OLEDs I believe. (I have a C6)
I know your pain OP, for we are the same. Rachel Maddow ruined my TV.
OLEDs are incredible pieces of kit but a little too delicate, especially as a first-time owner. I can forgive some burn-in to enjoy perfect black levels. Now I just get my news through text and podcast form and turn off as much of my game HUDs as possible.
OLEDs are incredible pieces of kit but a little too delicate, especially as a first-time owner. I can forgive some burn-in to enjoy perfect black levels. Now I just get my news through text and podcast form and turn off as much of my game HUDs as possible.
No. I tried to get it to happen with a review unit. No burn in. Samsung even has a guarantee.
The QLEDs will get brighter than OLEDs (good for HDR), but their weakness is low light. For example, in Stranger Things, the scenes were it is just 11 on an otherwise all black screen, you'll see a slight halo around the illuminated area. The black areas are black, but the QLED uses a backlight, so it can't get pixel perfect accuracy when one is on and the one next to it is off. When the whole screen is black though, you'd think the TV was off because the backlight is off.
QLED is a very viable option with some minor tradeoffs.
Burn-in is based on cumulative hours, not consecutive hours. Commercial breaks won't help.
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How the fuck is burn-in still a thing in 2020? I thought we left that shit behind with Plasma TVs...
After 8 years of so most of us will want the next best thing.
The minimal burn in will let you buy that MicoLED with hyperflex in 2027.
I just got my OLED in this week and its such a huge jump for me. We just love watching sports and movies on it.
It was the Netflix logo that did it for me on my E6. That fucking logo is the brightest red of all time.
Similar situation. My OLED E6 has some faint burn in across with bottom from sports trackers like ESPN. It's only noticeable when my Xbox has that dark grey screen during an update. I would have no problem upgrading to a 77" CX but I love the 3D on my E6. It's the last model to include it so there will come a day when I lose it, but for now, I'll learn to live with the burn in.
If this happened over a few days, it might just be some nasty IR. Grab some color / IR removal slides and/or 12 hr IR movies and run them all night for a week.
Same thing happened to me with my plasma and Bloodborne's paperwhite hud. Took a week, but doing the above fixed the IR.
Otherwise, call LG. Their CS has reportedly been pretty awesome.
As for the future, keep the set at 80% brightness for HDTV if you know the wife will be leaving it on the news all day. Keep the 100% to the other picture modes to switch to when needed (UHD/GAMING/MOVIES). All TVs have their advantages and disadvantages, but personally I wouldn't trade my C9 for LED.
Same thing happened to me with my plasma and Bloodborne's paperwhite hud. Took a week, but doing the above fixed the IR.
Otherwise, call LG. Their CS has reportedly been pretty awesome.
As for the future, keep the set at 80% brightness for HDTV if you know the wife will be leaving it on the news all day. Keep the 100% to the other picture modes to switch to when needed (UHD/GAMING/MOVIES). All TVs have their advantages and disadvantages, but personally I wouldn't trade my C9 for LED.
This is the only correct attitude with OLED.
I feel it will go the way of plasma when microLED hits. There's just nothing to prevent burn-in for OLEDs.
That suck OP
This is my concern with OLED tech. I have a 2015 LG P-series something (too lazy to check) that works more than okay but is lacking literally every cool gaming feature I want (it's a model with 3D but no HDR as an example). On one hand, I want the new TV when I get an Xbox Series X. On the other, this set otherwise works perfectly fine after 5 years, and it seems silly to buy a new set that might not even last that long without visible degradation. Edge mentioned technology these days being more disposable (which is unfortunately true to a large degree) but I have a hard time with the balance between "10/10 with a 5-year shelf life" and "8/10 with twice the shelf life and also cheaper." That's specifically a TV thing, but saying that I also have a OnePlus 5 that is perfectly fine and might make it through 2021 without an upgrade either.
This is my concern with OLED tech. I have a 2015 LG P-series something (too lazy to check) that works more than okay but is lacking literally every cool gaming feature I want (it's a model with 3D but no HDR as an example). On one hand, I want the new TV when I get an Xbox Series X. On the other, this set otherwise works perfectly fine after 5 years, and it seems silly to buy a new set that might not even last that long without visible degradation. Edge mentioned technology these days being more disposable (which is unfortunately true to a large degree) but I have a hard time with the balance between "10/10 with a 5-year shelf life" and "8/10 with twice the shelf life and also cheaper." That's specifically a TV thing, but saying that I also have a OnePlus 5 that is perfectly fine and might make it through 2021 without an upgrade either.
This is really why I'm waiting on Samsung's QD-OLED tech next year before finally jumping on the 4K bandwagon. LCD peak brightness/color accuracy with OLED's infinite contrast and no burn in.
Burnt B6 owner here. With a bunch of Tetris 99 boards and a big color spill at the center.
Welcome to the club!
Welcome to the club!
I'm hanging onto my C6 for as long as I can thanks to that sweet, sweet 3D. I hope that when it's time for me to upgrade there will be a superior tech out with the benefits of OLED without the drawback of image retention and burn-in.
My B6 has burn in from the Youtube app, especially the bright yellow 'watch later' button.
I'll still buy another OLED eventually, I just love the picture.
I'll still buy another OLED eventually, I just love the picture.
I've had my current TV, a Samsung 1080p, for at least 7.5 years. I actually just bought a replacement not because it's had problems, but because I want to upgrade to 4k for this generation of game consoles. I've literally never had a problem with it.
And I definitely feel you with the phones. My s10 and s8 both have significant burn in from a game app. But I expect to replace my phone every two years as I think most people do. I dont think most people spend 2k on a TV just to replace it in four or five years unless they need to have the next big thing out there.
As for the bolded part, you kinda do. You said you can't watch news channels for 8 hours at a time, or lower the settings every so often. That's having the TV dictate how you use it. I'm not going to sit here and lie and say I watch the news for 8 hours a day because I don't. But I also don't want the option taken away, if that makes sense.
And my original post was more talking about people in those TV threads that say it's a non issue, period. It's one thing to be upfront and say the benefits of a greater watching experience outweigh the negative of potential burn in if you aren't safe about it. And it sounds like you'd be one of those people, which is appreciated. But I've literally seen people say it's not an issue, period. I'm too lazy to go search for those posts, but like I said, I just upgraded so I did a lot of reading in those threads and saw that sentiment several times.
Does my audio set up work with Hyperflex in 2027 if I bought it in 2024? Oh my God I'm losing it!!! š¬
There's only one real way to get rid of it. You need to take the same footage that wrecked your TV and invert it, (a red CNN logo would become a cyan CNN logo, for example. White would be black.) then play that footage on the TV for as many hours as you watched CNN.
I was able to mostly get rid of the burn-in on one of my OLED phones, mostly from Android UI and YouTube, that way. SLOWLY. I also had to use an app that hid the static UI elements and be very careful not to let YouTube run in vertical anymore, to avoid further damage.
It's easier on a phone because Android has a feature that inverts all of the color on your phone.
I was able to mostly get rid of the burn-in on one of my OLED phones, mostly from Android UI and YouTube, that way. SLOWLY. I also had to use an app that hid the static UI elements and be very careful not to let YouTube run in vertical anymore, to avoid further damage.
It's easier on a phone because Android has a feature that inverts all of the color on your phone.
It will work but you will only get 9.2 surround sound at best.
With hyperflex you get double that. In fact you need to upgrade your ears to notice the difference.
This is true for major appliances these days, our national broadcaster did a story about it but it is not known to be the case for TV's (yet). It's a pretty easy strawpoll to find friends and relatives (particularly fixed income seniors) to successfully keep their LCD/LED TV for at least a decade.
I got the 5 year burn-in protection plan with my new oled
If the TV has any within 5 years, they either replace the panel (if the part is still available) or replace the entire TV (if it's not)
from what I've read online after 2-3 years the parts are usually gone and they just replace the whole thing
I figure if I have any by 2025, no problem
if I dont, cnn here I come because ill probably get a whole new set out of it
If the TV has any within 5 years, they either replace the panel (if the part is still available) or replace the entire TV (if it's not)
from what I've read online after 2-3 years the parts are usually gone and they just replace the whole thing
I figure if I have any by 2025, no problem
if I dont, cnn here I come because ill probably get a whole new set out of it
Yeah we had a lot of CNN on during the week of the election. I kept telling my GF to cycle through the channels to try and prevent it haha.
B8 and thankfully no burn in on my end. OP, definitely try and reach out to LG. Heard good stories about them replacing them for newer models. You might get lucky.
B8 and thankfully no burn in on my end. OP, definitely try and reach out to LG. Heard good stories about them replacing them for newer models. You might get lucky.
I've never had one, but seeing all those desktop icons on my friends TV gives me anxiety.
Plus the confused face that Tucker Carlson has constantly, faintly staring back at you like Samus's visor reflection in Metroid Prime.
I'd agree with this. I have a q80T and a LG C9. We have the qled upstairs cause my wife watches a ton of shit with logos in the corner. The blacks aren't perfect but I'm very impressed with the backlight and how little halos come into play with it. It's not perfect but it's damn good.
Feel for you OP you should really not leave cnn on for long periods of time :(
No one posted this one yet?
No one posted this one yet?
Shit, I still have my plasma because it's the best 1080p set I've ever owned. Not going to ditch that until it dies.
They'd be bad for gaming too though no? Especially with games with static HUD elements?
My current TV is a last-gen Samsung F8500 plasma that is five or so years old (maybe six) and my TV before that was a nice Panasonic plasma. I've never had any issues with burn-in or serious image retention with either of those. Seeing how accepted it is with OLED has me not wanting to upgrade anytime soon though.
What kind of features does it have? Got a new CX and want to make sure those safety mechanics are activated
If it's a game you'll be playing for hundreds of hours it might not be wise
Like, I may just go back to playing the next MLB game on my monitor to be safe since I put way too much time into that game
just a heads up - the color spill is another issue entirely. I already got a complimentary panel replacement by LG on my B6 years ago for a different issue (panel uniformity), but recently my screen started getting a greenish blob in the center. There's a huge thread with other afflicted owners on the LG forums. If you reach out to the moderator there, there's a good chance they'll fast track a panel replacement for you. This is now the second free replacement I've gotten and my tv is about 4 years old now.
Cycling through the channels occasionally won't do anything.
It's all about how much time you spend watching the thing that's causing the burn, and what percentage of your total usage of the TV that represents, plus how fixed and contrasty the things you watch are.
Seeing this makes me think that great CS is being used as cover for below average build quality.
Wtf at people recommending another OLED after his previous one got burnin? Their viewing habits are what they are and as such another tv prone to burnin is the worst recommendation to give, yet everyone just skips past it like nothing happened.
OLED diehards are creepy sometimes.
OLED diehards are creepy sometimes.
I think they're banking on lg just giving free replacements for the rest of their lives. I'm more apprehensive about the tech. Still haven't bought an oled because of this burn in problem.
wouldnt gaming, especislly the same game, be even worse??
If you're going to be watching that much news then don't get another OLED. I mean, I love mine but we aren't really a news television household. If we were I would have reconsidered getting it.